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Posted: 11/25/2015 9:08:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2015 9:13:52 PM EDT by cmshoot]
I had a student run a Mossberg MVP .308 in a recent Guerilla Sniper course I taught.......not the Patrol but a slightly different model with a bit longer barrel and adjustable stock.

Fit and finish weren't the best, I've seen smoother bolts, but it fed easily from 10- and 20-round PMags and I can't argue with the accuracy.  I shot 3rds as quickly as I could from a saddle-equipped tripod support while standing. Target was an 8"x12" steel at 300yds. The drill went very well, with 3 quick hits.

With all that is going on, I have been reassessing my truck gun situation.  I have been using a custom 16.5" octagon-barreled Winchester .30-30 for this task.  I did not want to use something that I had a lot of money in, nor did I want to arm some thief with a semi-auto 5.56 or 7.62 if it were stolen from my vehicle.

I've decided to go with the Mossberg MVP Patrol .308 (16.25" barrel, iron sights, Picatinny rail, threaded for a flash suppressor). Bolt home on an empty chamber, weapon on fire, with a 10rd PMag inserted, aka "cruiser ready". A stock pack with a 20rd PMag in it for a reload. 4-6 more 20rd mags in a shoulder bag.

Rifle is ordered. I've already ordered a metal trigger guard and extended mag release with extra power spring. USGI green canvas sling. I've got a Burris 1-4x24 MTAC illuminated at home I'll top her with. I may replace the A2-type bird cage with an SEI Vortex.

I won't have a lot of money tied up in it. I feel confident of the ability to hit man-sized targets past 600yds. .308 is an excellent barrier penetrator and no one ever said it wasn't an effect anti-personnel round. I've figured out how to lock it under my back seat yet still be able to retrieve it semi-quickly.

Anyways, that's the solution I came up with that fits my criteria.

Semper Fi!
Link Posted: 11/25/2015 9:15:04 PM EDT
In for pics when u get it put together.

From what I've seen they are great rifles for the price. A buddy has his daughter hunting with one in 223 and took a nice deer with it last weekend.
Link Posted: 11/25/2015 9:26:36 PM EDT
I bought my daughter the Varmint model in 5.56 with a laminate stock. I can shoot .5MOA with hand loads and my daughter went 3-for-3 at 800yds with it when she was 10.
Link Posted: 11/25/2015 10:26:28 PM EDT

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I bought my daughter the Varmint model in 5.56 with a laminate stock. I can shoot .5MOA with hand loads and my daughter went 3-for-3 at 800yds with it when she was 10.
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Yeah, but she ain't normal. She's ate up with the "Shep" gene.

 
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 9:18:42 AM EDT
I have a MVP Predator in 308 that I picked up a while ago. I finally took it to the range this last Monday and am pleasantly surprised. I'm not a fan of the sporter stock on it though, trying to find a varmint stock until better aftermarket options are out. Never thought about the patrol as a truck gun but that'd be a good role for one.
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 9:39:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cmshoot:
I've figured out how to lock it under my back seat yet still be able to retrieve it semi-quickly.
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I wondering what type of vehicle you have and how you plan on securing it? I have been thinking of something similar and not sure how I want to store a rifle in my Ford F150.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 11:37:06 AM EDT
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab.

The trick is gonna be how to secure it in my 2008 Subaru STi!
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 12:07:09 PM EDT

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2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab.



The trick is gonna be how to secure it in my 2008 Subaru STi!
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I'm sitting here bored so I decided to google search weapons storage Subaru. I highly recommend you don't. From my short three forum search about 90% of Subaru owners are socialist. They believe that no one should own guns and theses that do are worse for the "world" than criminals.

 
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 2:51:23 PM EDT
Perfect!  No one will suspect that there's a firearm in a Subaru!

Yep, lots of hippies and lesbians driving Subarus. I got it cuz it was stupid fast......
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 7:32:29 PM EDT
Since this is a trunk/truck gun thread....







Link Posted: 11/26/2015 10:46:50 PM EDT
Shep:

My issue with a vehicle long gun is securing the weapon.  Unless you have a trunk vault of some sort, sooner or later that smoke pole will be gone.  

Here is another idea for a trunk/truck gun for you, I know you said no semi auto.   But my dad, in another lifetime, a distance place, far far away, used to carry an M2 (yes M2) Carbine with the para trooper folding stock in his car.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 4:01:00 AM EDT
I can easily secure it in my truck, it's my Subaru that I may not be able to.......without drilling or somesuch, which I'm not opposed to.

I like the M1 carbine, but I wanted something with more punch and range......something that would pop through barriers such as auto bodies and still be plenty lethal on the other side.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 10:33:13 AM EDT
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I can easily secure it in my truck, it's my Subaru that I may not be able to.......without drilling or somesuch, which I'm not opposed to.

I like the M1 carbine, but I wanted something with more punch and range......something that would pop through barriers such as auto bodies and still be plenty lethal on the other side.
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Cable lock routed through the spare tire?
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:03:35 AM EDT
That's what I'm thinking. A lock on the spare tire, then drill a couple holes through the the rear cover and run a cable lock to the spare tire.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:04:52 AM EDT
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I can easily secure it in my truck, it's my Subaru that I may not be able to.......without drilling or somesuch, which I'm not opposed to.

I like the M1 carbine, but I wanted something with more punch and range......something that would pop through barriers such as auto bodies and still be plenty lethal on the other side.
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I understand your reasons and purpose.   I was just throwing out a historical sample.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:44:08 AM EDT
Nothing wrong with using an M1 carbine.  For a person with the right criteria, it would fit the bill nicely.

Lightweight
Short
Accurate
Ballistics superior to a .357 Magnum out of a handgun
Excellent capacity

Speer has a .30 carbine Gold Dot load that looks good.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:47:08 AM EDT
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Nothing wrong with using an M1 carbine.  For a person with the right criteria, it would fit the bill nicely.

Lightweight
Short
Accurate
Ballistics superior to a .357 Magnum out of a handgun
Excellent capacity

Speer has a .30 carbine Gold Dot load that looks good.
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And it's ultra old school :)
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:49:04 AM EDT
Very!

A "tanker" M1 Garand would be cool as well.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 7:19:39 PM EDT
The boss has one of the early MVPs in .223 and likes it.  I'll be following your findings with the .308 version.  I'm interested in one of the "practical rifle" concept.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 10:44:16 PM EDT
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Very!

A "tanker" M1 Garand would be cool as well.
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I saw a Tanker Garand at Cabelas in Acworth. I almost got it until I saw the price... They also have a few of the weird scoped M1 carbines there and a National Postage Carbine.


Prof
Link Posted: 11/28/2015 1:18:33 PM EDT
There's a tanker Garand for sale on the M14 Forum right now.
Link Posted: 12/5/2015 6:05:51 PM EDT
Picked up my rifle today.

First thing I do when I pick up a new rifle is take it all the way apart, inspect everything, and then put it back together properly, torquing to spec, while using lube or Loctite where appropriate.

When I went to remount the factory scope mount, first thing I noticed was that the front screw was too long and put pressure on the barrel threads.  This can have an adverse effect on accuracy.  The way to check this is to remove all the screws except for the front one.  Tighten the front screw down; if you can move the mount, the screw is too long.  I ground a few threads off of it and it is now good to go.

Mine came with the synthetic stock and a 10rd Magpul PMag.  The PMag surprised me and I was very happy to see it, instead of the older factory steel mag.

I was originally going to replace the A2 birdcage with an SEI Vortex flash suppressor, but I recently ordered a Silencerco Omega to go on a DRD Tactical M762, so I'm going to go with the ASR Flash Hider from Silencerco.  It works as well as the Vortex at controlling muzzle flash, with the added benefit of being able to mount the Omega on it.  Win-win.

I replaced the factory plastic trigger guard with an aluminum unit from Robert Lynch/Crosshair Precision, along with their extended magazine release.

I ordered a Timney trigger from Brownell's, should be in next week.

After some of the complaints I have read, I was surprised at how smooth the bolt cycles.  No issues there, with me at least.

Semper Fi!
Link Posted: 12/5/2015 10:15:26 PM EDT
Ok where is the picture?
Link Posted: 12/5/2015 11:49:51 PM EDT
She looks stock right now. I'll post some pics after I gussy her up.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 7:02:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 7:05:30 PM EDT by cmshoot]
Decided to keep the stock, it's workable.

Removed the 2 sling swivels and filled the holes in with steel putty.  I'll sand them smooth when it's time to paint.

Mixed 2-part epoxy and about 9oz of lead shot and filled in the recesses in the forend.  That'll stiffen it up a might and add a little bit of weight.  I'll fill the forward part of the buttstock hollow with Great Stuff, then enough epoxy/lead shot to balance the rifle at the magazine, then Great Stuff to the butt pad.

Ordered several different QD sling mounts, just to see which ones will work the best.  These will go on the left side of the stock so the sling won't interfere with the magazine.

Then I'll coat the entire stock with Brownell's Spray Grit, with AlumaHyde II in OD green over that.

Having the bolt knob replaced with a longer, knurled knob.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:45:42 PM EDT
The stock fill is all done and turned out great.  I put a coat of Spray Grit down......I'll give that a few days to cure then it'll be 3 coats of OD green AlumaHyde II.
Link Posted: 12/9/2015 8:59:13 PM EDT
I'd like to see a step-by-step with pics on this little project.
Link Posted: 12/10/2015 12:30:51 PM EDT
Unless he already took pictures of his work, it's too late for step by step pictogram. LOL.  I just want a picture, any picture.
Link Posted: 12/10/2015 1:37:48 PM EDT
I've got pics, but currently traveling and working off my iPhone.  Can't figure out how to attach them.
Link Posted: 12/11/2015 10:31:13 PM EDT
Handled the .223 version of that gun at Academy Sport tonight.  Wow, is that thing light.  From the specifications, the .223 is 7 lb and the .308 is 7.5 lb.

The hollow plastic stock feels kind of cheap and slippery.  I hope your modifications improve the feel a bit.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 9:02:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2015 10:50:41 AM EDT by cmshoot]
I'll have pics soon.

The spray grit took care of the slipperiness nicely. The couple of pounds I added to the rifle gives it a comfortable heft and balances the rifle nicely for offhand shooting.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 11:02:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2015 11:03:17 AM EDT by cmshoot]
Having fun with this thing so far. I'm usually posting expensive ass shit, like my Colt 9mm SMG, DRD Tactical Kivaari .338 Lapua, JPE LRP-07, etc.  

The Mossberg MVP Patrol 7.62 can be picked up for between $500-$550. Other than the bolt knob, the mods I've done can be performed by most anyone, and a lot of folks wouldn't find some of them necessary anyways......but I don't feel a firearm is truly mine until I've fucked with it in a myriad of ways.

If .308 don't trip your switch, the same rifle is available in 5.56 that takes AR mags. My daughter has the Varmint version and was ringing steel at 800yds with it when she was only 10YOA.

I expect that very soon you'll see these in .300Blk, 6.8 SPC, and a host of .308-based calibers.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 9:32:13 PM EDT
All work is done, just waiting on the bolt to come back from having the new handle installed, and the SilencerCo flash hider.

I can't check out/adjust the Timney trigger until I get the bolt back.

Put 3M ladder tape on the CrossHair Precision extended bolt release.











Link Posted: 12/19/2015 11:51:39 PM EDT
All done!  To the range later this week.







Link Posted: 12/20/2015 12:58:14 AM EDT
Looks....loud!
Link Posted: 12/20/2015 12:59:39 AM EDT
Not so much when my Silencerco Omega is screwed on the end!
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 10:04:30 PM EDT
I am very interested in this!! How much $$$ do you have in all the parts, minus the custom bolt handle and labor?
Link Posted: 12/22/2015 6:01:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2015 6:01:54 PM EDT by cmshoot]
rifle $540

EGW 20MOA mount $40

QD flush cups $36

Sling $20

Silencerco ASR FH $80

Spray grit $10

AlumaHyde II $12

Epoxy $60

Magpul QD swivels $36

Lead shot, can't really tell since I get it in 25lb bags

Warne Maxima QD rings $65

Scope $300

Timney trigger $120
Link Posted: 12/23/2015 8:41:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2015 8:47:24 PM EDT by cmshoot]
5rds, 5 hits, 100yds, low kneeling.  Using the old British "Mad Minute" technique where the thumb and forefinger hold the bolt handle and the middle finger pulls the trigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rDtiTbwNvw&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/CB08bv9IMmU
Link Posted: 12/23/2015 10:21:16 PM EDT
I dig it. A lot. If I didn't already have a Ruger Gunsite Scout I'd probably replicate it.
Link Posted: 12/26/2015 10:20:02 PM EDT
Shep, can you provide a link/email contact for the Al trigger guard and mag release?

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/27/2015 3:22:49 AM EDT
It's forum member robert lynch of CrossHair Precision, LLC.  Great guy to deal with. http://www.mossbergmvp.com/index.php?forums/crosshair-precision-llc.37/
Link Posted: 12/28/2015 5:49:38 PM EDT
Thanks for the reply.

I went and fingerbanged one at AO today, what do you think about the sloppy bolt?? Kinda turned me off. Other than that it seemed fine, and I will probably be ordering one tonight. Cherokee is out of stock, BTW (I checked )
Link Posted: 12/28/2015 9:30:08 PM EDT
It's on the sloppy side, but it's a $500 rifle.  Pretty much feels exactly like a Savage bolt action.  Doesn't effect accuracy, just makes it feel a bit cheap.  

I'm contemplating having my bolt body NiB'ed.  NiB tends to be a bit thick, so it would take up a little of the slop, as well as being slick to help smooth it out some more.
Link Posted: 12/30/2015 9:39:52 PM EDT
It's all your fault.  I now have one of these on order.  Just waiting to hear from QRF.
Link Posted: 12/30/2015 11:17:41 PM EDT
Great!
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