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Link Posted: 2/2/2021 6:36:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


I dont know about Deliverance, but that Winter's Bone movie really felt like rural MO.
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Should be required viewing
Link Posted: 2/2/2021 7:35:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:


You can be excused for the banjo, but if you don’t canoe you have no business moving to the Ozarks. Sorry, that’s unacceptable.
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Agree, poplar bluff is on the doorstep to some of the best canoeing in the country.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 1:36:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


I dont know about Deliverance, but that Winter's Bone movie really felt like rural MO.
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I liked that movie.  I find it funny that I live in a redneck area by most standards in this country but when going deep into the Ozarks to family land we get the "you're them city folks, aren't you?"
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 9:23:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
I don't take canoe trips or play a guitar or banjo.
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It's never too late to learn!
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 7:42:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
I don't take canoe trips or play a guitar or banjo.
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Yet.

You dont take canoe trips or play guitar or banjo, yet.

Like I told you in the other thread...Missouri has a lot going for it.
I'm not a Native, (moved here from the West Coast as a teenager, joined the Marines, saw the world and moved back almost 25 years ago), but it's a great state and I'm happy and proud to raise my family here.

I'm about done with St Louis County, but only have a few more years to deal with before I can retire and move out somewhere with less regulation.

Like has been mentioned by others in this thread...Missouri will most likely never be the cultural epicenter of the universe, but it has enough other things going for it that I'm willing to give that part up.

There are good restaurants in MO, you just have to go to where they are. In the more rural areas, chain restaurants are going to be the order of the day.

You're good people DFarm....there's room for folks like you here.
Hope you make the jump to our corner of the world.
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Missouri would love to have you. We just keep getting redder.

Don't worry about the negative aspects, we've been propagating those stories for centuries just to keep out the riffraff (they showed up anyway). But you're coming from a state that decriminalized the hard drugs so our meth-billies are nothing you haven't seen before. Besides there are shitheads everywhere, only the flavor of shithead changes.

Our state motto is "Hey, at least we ain't Arkansas"

BTW, it's MIZZ-uhr-EE, we don't have "cricks" we have creeks, just wait till you get a good case of chiggers...
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Originally Posted By HEIT_APDST:
Our state motto is "Hey, at least we ain't Arkansas"  Illinois
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Fixed.
Link Posted: 2/4/2021 12:13:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


I dont know about Deliverance, but that Winter's Bone movie really felt like rural MO.
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  Oh my!... my wife and I just got through watching 'Winter's Bone'...that is one mean show of living life in the backwoods of MO. Mind your own business to say the least...and I'll leave that right there.
  I went fishing on the Salt River taking the backroads today and that reminded me so much of the woods I saw.
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Originally Posted By dab2:
  Oh my!... my wife and I just got through watching 'Winter's Bone'...that is one mean show of living life in the backwoods of MO. Mind your own business to say the least...and I'll leave that right there.
  I went fishing on the Salt River taking the backroads today and that reminded me so much of the woods I saw.
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I'm sure I could walk a couple of miles in any direction and meet their relatives.
Link Posted: 2/4/2021 11:46:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


I'm sure I could walk a couple of miles in any direction and meet their relatives.
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Oh boy...I see nothing!
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Originally Posted By dab2:

Oh boy...I see nothing!
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Rural is rural... chances are if you need help and knock on someone's door they'll help. They just dont want you in their business if you're not invited. Sounds fair enough to me.

Unless they have pigs... and a field full of cars... might want to find another door in that case... just sayin'
Link Posted: 2/4/2021 4:11:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By madmacs69:


Rural is rural... chances are if you need help and knock on someone's door they'll help. They just dont want you in their business if you're not invited. Sounds fair enough to me.

Unless they have pigs... and a field full of cars... might want to find another door in that case... just sayin'
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Exactly!
Link Posted: 2/4/2021 7:44:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/4/2021 9:21:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AeroE:


That is the Mississippi Delta East of Poplar Bluff.

The change is remarkable; leave PB eastbound on 60, boom, it's a different, very flat, world.

Living south and southwest of Poplar Bluff is my idea of about as good as it gets.

It's rural in every way.

Watch the weather this weekend.  A few times every winter we get an "Alberta Clipper's that sweeps really cold arctic air in.  Mostly it doesn't last long, but I have lived through week long periods of unbroken temps well below 0F.

The personal property tax is annoying.  List your motor vehicles and trailers that require tags.  Do not include your freezer.

Tax on real estate ranges from ridiculously low, to high in the fancy parts of St. Louis and Jackson counties.

It's more complicated on farms with livestock.  On the other hand, property with ag exemption has extremely low taxes.  

The median property tax in Shannon County is about $400.

Here's a photo west of Eminence.  The Jacks Fork River is about 200 feet below my feet.  A gravel bar is visible in the distance -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66528.JPG

A favorite place on the Gasconade in Wright County where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65691.JPG

Close to where I live now on the Mississippi River looking up river at Foley Landing just after high water -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66526.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66521.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66527.JPG

I protest Bladeswitchers comment about the arts in the Ozarks and Missouri.  All that is needed to find it is to look around.  It might not be ensconced in marble halls in Thayer, but there is plenty of music and visual art going on.  Besides, there is merit in folks doing with what they have.

If one of my daughters leaves the KC region, I'll be down there, too, probably along Bryant Creek or the North Fork.

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Alley Spring -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66176.JPG

Topaz Mill near where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66173.JPG


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Those areas all look beautiful. That's all in s/w MO?

And trail riding, as in on horses?

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Originally Posted By DFARM:

Those areas all look beautiful. That's all in s/w MO?

And trail riding, as in on horses?

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If you look hard enough, you can find a few folks who ride horses . . .

Here's one place that might be able to help you:

https://crosscountrytrailrides.com/
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Originally Posted By AeroE:


That is the Mississippi Delta East of Poplar Bluff.

The change is remarkable; leave PB eastbound on 60, boom, it's a different, very flat, world.

Living south and southwest of Poplar Bluff is my idea of about as good as it gets.

It's rural in every way.

Watch the weather this weekend.  A few times every winter we get an "Alberta Clipper's that sweeps really cold arctic air in.  Mostly it doesn't last long, but I have lived through week long periods of unbroken temps well below 0F.

The personal property tax is annoying.  List your motor vehicles and trailers that require tags.  Do not include your freezer.

Tax on real estate ranges from ridiculously low, to high in the fancy parts of St. Louis and Jackson counties.

It's more complicated on farms with livestock.  On the other hand, property with ag exemption has extremely low taxes.  

The median property tax in Shannon County is about $400.

Here's a photo west of Eminence.  The Jacks Fork River is about 200 feet below my feet.  A gravel bar is visible in the distance -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66528.JPG

A favorite place on the Gasconade in Wright County where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65691.JPG

Close to where I live now on the Mississippi River looking up river at Foley Landing just after high water -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66526.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66521.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66527.JPG

I protest Bladeswitchers comment about the arts in the Ozarks and Missouri.  All that is needed to find it is to look around.  It might not be ensconced in marble halls in Thayer, but there is plenty of music and visual art going on.  Besides, there is merit in folks doing with what they have.

If one of my daughters leaves the KC region, I'll be down there, too, probably along Bryant Creek or the North Fork.

Bonus

Alley Spring -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66176.JPG

Topaz Mill near where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66173.JPG


Tell your wife that trail riding is extremely popular.

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Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
Poplar bluff is right where the Ozarks meets the bootheel. Stay north or west of PB and you'll enjoy it. The bootheel is a different world, more like the Mississippi delta than Missouri.

Not a lot of good job opportunities and out side of PB the schools are very poorly funded, that may not matter to you though.


That is the Mississippi Delta East of Poplar Bluff.

The change is remarkable; leave PB eastbound on 60, boom, it's a different, very flat, world.

Living south and southwest of Poplar Bluff is my idea of about as good as it gets.

It's rural in every way.

Watch the weather this weekend.  A few times every winter we get an "Alberta Clipper's that sweeps really cold arctic air in.  Mostly it doesn't last long, but I have lived through week long periods of unbroken temps well below 0F.

The personal property tax is annoying.  List your motor vehicles and trailers that require tags.  Do not include your freezer.

Tax on real estate ranges from ridiculously low, to high in the fancy parts of St. Louis and Jackson counties.

It's more complicated on farms with livestock.  On the other hand, property with ag exemption has extremely low taxes.  

The median property tax in Shannon County is about $400.

Here's a photo west of Eminence.  The Jacks Fork River is about 200 feet below my feet.  A gravel bar is visible in the distance -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66528.JPG

A favorite place on the Gasconade in Wright County where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65691.JPG

Close to where I live now on the Mississippi River looking up river at Foley Landing just after high water -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66526.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66521.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66527.JPG

I protest Bladeswitchers comment about the arts in the Ozarks and Missouri.  All that is needed to find it is to look around.  It might not be ensconced in marble halls in Thayer, but there is plenty of music and visual art going on.  Besides, there is merit in folks doing with what they have.

If one of my daughters leaves the KC region, I'll be down there, too, probably along Bryant Creek or the North Fork.

Bonus

Alley Spring -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66176.JPG

Topaz Mill near where I grew up -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66173.JPG


Tell your wife that trail riding is extremely popular.



Yep, I'm all over the south east 1/4 of the state for work and two wheeling. The flat land is a different world all together.
Link Posted: 2/9/2021 1:40:11 AM EDT
Don’t let the personal property tax in cars  scare you.   Unless you have a Ferrari it not that crazy when you look at how cheep our registration fees are and gas is compared to other states.  

As for the area you are looking in it is very rural. Especially once you get out of city of PB.  If schools and finding a finding a job are not major issue it’s probably really great for you. Just keep in mind PB high end shopping is Walmart and fine dinning is coltons steakhouse, think like an outback / Texas Roadhouse.   Anything a lot  better is a long drive away.    

It is very pretty aera.  And not a bad place to have a check out / retirement place.
There are lots of great places in MO where you can get great rural property.  

Just a matter of where and how much you want to pay.


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Originally Posted By madmacs69:
I dont know about Deliverance, but that Winter's Bone movie really felt like rural MO.
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The original story is set in the West Plains area but they filmed around Forsyth because the area better visualizes the Ozarks.
A fellow I work with knows the author, Daniel Woodrell, and most of the people who the characters are based from.
Ronnie "Stray Dog" Hall who plays Thump Milton in the film is a Forsyth local who didn't need to have a costume because production thought he dressed exactly the way they wanted.
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:


Well yes, i meant it all as a compliment
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Originally Posted By Quantrills_Raiders:
I actually enjoyed Bladeswitcher's description of our people, as it reminds me of why I love it here.

We are stubborn, mind-your-own-damn-business types, and I'll take that over the sissified, pseudo-intellectual, made-up gender, government is great, let's pack everyone into cities mentality that a lot of places seem to be inundated with.


Well yes, i meant it all as a compliment

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But this cold snap sux. Needs to go back up to MN, WI, ND and MI where it belongs(arctic Canadian air)


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Oh, fuck no . . .

That's bad.
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Originally Posted By shooter_from_show-me:
But this cold snap sux. Needs to go back up to MN, WI, ND and MI where it belongs(arctic Canadian air)
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But horrible, unpredictable weather is part of our rich and vibrant Missouri culture.
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Originally Posted By HEIT_APDST:
But horrible, unpredictable weather is part of our rich and vibrant Missouri culture.
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Originally Posted By shooter_from_show-me:
But this cold snap sux. Needs to go back up to MN, WI, ND and MI where it belongs(arctic Canadian air)
But horrible, unpredictable weather is part of our rich and vibrant Missouri culture.

I'll take it over beautiful california weather if it keeps the beautiful california people away

This shit is starting to get old though...
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Originally Posted By AeroE:


South Central to Southwest.  Wright County is northwest of the location of the photo, two counties east of Springfield.  Mountain Grove is in an interesting location, sitting on the fall line; the creeks south of town drain into the White River drainage and eventually the Mississippi River just above the confluence of the Arkansas and Mississippi Rivers, creeks north of town drain into the Gasconade river, and then into the Missouri river.  The North Fork of the White River comes out of a little spring just southeast of town, one of my high school friends built a nice cabin just a little farther down at a spring on his folks place and lived there until he passed two years ago.

Trail riding, on horses, is available all over, some across farms, some on the many Conservation Areas all over the state, and in Mark Twain National Forest.  Horse shows and rodeos are also popular.  The Mark Twain NF in that region near West Plains has wild horses; I don't know the numbers these days, hopefully the Conservation Department is keeping them culled down.

Missouri has two organizations related to conservation and the outdoors.  The Department of Conservation regulates hunting and fishing and provides a tree nursery that is a great resource for low cost seedlings.  Conservation and Natural Areas fall under their responsibility.  The Department of Natural Resources controls the State Parks and gets into water conservation, air pollution, and so on.  Missouri voters elected to start a 1/8th cent sales tax to support the Conservation Dept in the late 70's, then later another 1/8th cent tax was added for the DNR.  This money has allowed the Dept of Conservation to build an impressive array of property across the state open to everyone; some of it is spectacular.  As priority projects were completed, ranges were built at Conservation Areas, ranging from rudimentary to fairly nice, and the far greater part of them are rural, free, and not monitored by a range officer (the urban ranges are under the heel of RO's, on the other hand).  The last few years have seen ranges near here get improvements such as concrete bench tops, and at least one not far from Jeff City has a shelter over the shooting positions.


Also has chiggers -

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/image-1816257.jpg

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Yes, Missouri sure does have chiggers. I don't know how many times I've been outside doing something and suddenly thought, "oh, shit. I forgot to spray."
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I hate those cussed chiggers and seed ticks. When the wife and I were much much younger it sure was fun to look each other over real well for seed ticks. Can't hardly see those blamed little red chiggers.
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Is deet the answer that everyone uses for ticks and chiggers?

Seems pretty crappy to have to spray yourself down with chemicals every time you go outside.
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Originally Posted By BASE:

I'll take it over beautiful california weather if it keeps the beautiful california people away

This shit is starting to get old though...
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I don’t mind the occasional snow and even a week of frigid temps is tolerable. Ice sucks, though.

At least we’re not Fort Worth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTYxDMYKyiI


Next up:  hoop snakes and Behinders.
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
Is deet the answer that everyone uses for ticks and chiggers?

Seems pretty crappy to have to spray yourself down with chemicals every time you go outside.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTYxDMYKyiI


Next up:  hoop snakes and Behinders.
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They never bothered me until I quit chewing. I remember my grandfather telling me he got ate up after he quit smoking, but wasn't ever bothered before that.

I know plenty of people that still have the disgusting habit and get chewed up but hey, maybe worth a shot?
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I get one every once in a while, not very often.  I think it has something to do with using lye soap.  Not scientific I know, but I used to get them a lot....  I've read where you can dust your legs down with sulfur powder and not have too many problems...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTYxDMYKyiI


Next up:  hoop snakes and Behinders.
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That is why I like Youtube...excellent find!
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
Is deet the answer that everyone uses for ticks and chiggers?

Seems pretty crappy to have to spray yourself down with chemicals every time you go outside.
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Permethrin, and you can treat your clothes in advance.

https://www.insectshield.com/
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
Is deet the answer that everyone uses for ticks and chiggers?

Seems pretty crappy to have to spray yourself down with chemicals every time you go outside.
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Grandma used a sulfur sock on us when we were kids. Put powdered sulfur in an old tube sock and pat down your pant legs, shoes and waist with it. It can cause skin irritation so prevent getting it on bare skin. I know it works for chiggers, not sure about seed ticks.
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
Very informative thread.

I too am looking at moving to southern MO, with northern AR and western TN also in the running at this point.

Looking for a fairly big chunk of land (40+ acres at minimum, over 120 would be excellent) with a mix of forest, cropland/pasture, flowing water &/or ponds, and a smaller house and outbuildings or a spot to put them.

How's the water situation there as far as wells go?  About 150' to 300' of fairly easy drilling here in eastern NE to hit the aquifer for nice tasting but hard water.
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It varies a lot.

I have 2 350' wells about1/2 mile apart, one has more water than I know what to do with. I had the other hydro fractured as it ran dry very easily, now it's pretty good but will run dry with excess use.

Neighbor a mile or so away has a 700' dry hole

A friend lives less than 10 miles away and there's a hand dug 25' well that provides plenty of water.
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Water quality can be a real issue in some areas. I used to rent a house where the well water was high in sulfur content, and it smelled so bad that we bought drinking water from Walmart.

Edit - It was near a bluff over the Meramec River, but I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
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How's the water situation there as far as wells go? . . .
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How's the water situation there as far as wells go? . . .



http://agebb.missouri.edu/drought/water/MissouriGroundwaterProvincesandAquiferCharact­eristics.pdf

Area 6 –Salem Plateau Groundwater Province –surrounds the St. Francois Mountains and includes all of part of 49 counties in south central and southeast Missouri.  The groundwater resources in the SalemPlateau groundwater province are the most extensive in the state.  There are two major aquifers that underlie this region, the St. Francois aquifer and the Ozark aquifer.  The aquifers receive recharge in a number of ways.  In an unconfined aquifer (St. Francois) precipitation can move downward into the aquifer.  Wells in this area can produce between 70 and 125 gallons per minute.  This area holds about 46.65 of the potable groundwater or about 233 trillion gallons.  

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Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
Very informative thread.

I too am looking at moving to southern MO, with northern AR and western TN also in the running at this point.

Looking for a fairly big chunk of land (40+ acres at minimum, over 120 would be excellent) with a mix of forest, cropland/pasture, flowing water &/or ponds, and a smaller house and outbuildings or a spot to put them.

How's the water situation there as far as wells go?  About 150' to 300' of fairly easy drilling here in eastern NE to hit the aquifer for nice tasting but hard water.
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DNR has well records online which if i recall correctly is available either as an online map or as downloadable GIS data you can load into google maps.

The geologist at Rolla will be able to give you an idea of how deep the well will need to be and the casing depth. I think this was free last time I used it. Your other alternative would be to call a well driller in the area.

https://dnr.mo.gov/forms/780-1426-f.pdf

Missouri Geological Survey
111 Fairgrounds Road
PO Box 250
Rolla, MO 65402-0250
800-361-4827
573-368-2100

I would imagine you'll be deeper than 300ft for a reasonable yield.
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It varies a lot.

I have 2 350' wells about1/2 mile apart, one has more water than I know what to do with. I had the other hydro fractured as it ran dry very easily, now it's pretty good but will run dry with excess use.

Neighbor a mile or so away has a 700' dry hole

A friend lives less than 10 miles away and there's a hand dug 25' well that provides plenty of water.
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It does vary a lot.  Like Gunguy, I'm in southern St. Francois County.  My main well is at 180' and I've filled a swimming pool with it.  My other irrigation well is the same.  My good friend is about two miles west and has a well at 450'.  A county south, the well at my cabin is 100' and no problems.  I always recommend buying with an existing well.  Nothing is worse than talking with your driller deciding whether to go that next 100 feet.
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Originally Posted By Roaster72:


It does vary a lot.  Like Gunguy, I'm in southern St. Francois County.  My main well is at 180' and I've filled a swimming pool with it.  My other irrigation well is the same.  My good friend is about two miles west and has a well at 450'.  A county south, the well at my cabin is 100' and no problems.  I always recommend buying with an existing well.  Nothing is worse than talking with your driller deciding whether to go that next 100 feet.
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You should also make sure you can get power. I used to work for the electric co-ops at their statewide association. When I worked there we'd take "complaint calls" from people who wanted us to force the co-op to build them a power line. Often there were easement issues that couldn't be resolved. Other times, the guy wanted a mile of line through thick forests so he could put in a deer cabin that would consume $100 of electricity each year. The lesson I learned was don't take anything for granted when it comes to power access. ASK! A lot of times there's a reason why there's no power on the place.
Link Posted: 2/12/2021 1:21:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:



You should also make sure you can get power. I used to work for the electric co-ops at their statewide association. When I worked there we'd take "complaint calls" from people who wanted us to force the co-op to build them a power line. Often there were easement issues that couldn't be resolved. Other times, the guy wanted a mile of line through thick forests so he could put in a deer cabin that would consume $100 of electricity each year. The lesson I learned was don't take anything for granted when it comes to power access. ASK! A lot of times there's a reason why there's no power on the place.
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Great advice Bladeswitcher!
Link Posted: 2/12/2021 2:16:07 PM EDT
Mow your yard and you won't have to deal with chiggers.  I've only encountered them in places with knee-high grass.  When moving through woods, especially in southern Missouri you may have quite a few ticks to deal with.  I remember the first time I saw Lone Star ticks, there were about 2 dozen crawling on my boots.
Link Posted: 2/12/2021 8:04:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Quantrills_Raiders:
Mow your yard and you won't have to deal with chiggers.  I've only encountered them in places with knee-high grass.  When moving through woods, especially in southern Missouri you may have quite a few ticks to deal with.  I remember the first time I saw Lone Star ticks, there were about 2 dozen crawling on my boots.
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Well if you'd quit with the possum stew they'd eat the ticks for you...
Link Posted: 2/12/2021 8:05:20 PM EDT
I've heard that guinea fowl eat a lot of ticks too.
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Originally Posted By AeroE:


They're pretty good watch birds, too, and will raise a racket at anything that disturbs them.

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They raise a racket if anything doesn't disturb them as well.... we had about a dozen a couple years ago... you kinda get used to the noise... sorta..
Link Posted: 2/18/2021 9:32:20 PM EDT
How has the covid situation been in your state?

I'm seeing a very noticeable increase in people actually telling me to wear a mask over the last couple of weeks. These are customers at work, so I can't exactly tell them to eff off, but they hadn't said a word to me since last year.

I appreciate people who aren't scared of the air.
Link Posted: 2/18/2021 10:04:52 PM EDT
Tonight in Walmart, mask wearing customers were a bit over 50%.
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