HB-649 - Bill to eliminate car Inspection - yes please (Page 3 of 4)
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Anyone in Peterborough or Sharon want to go call this guy an asshole? Attached File What a goon: https://gc.nh.gov/house/members/member.aspx?member=376139 
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Originally Posted By FDC: Anyone in Peterborough or Sharon want to go call this guy an asshole? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99516/Screenshot_2025-09-16_142610_png-3625077.JPG What a goon: https://gc.nh.gov/house/members/member.aspx?member=376139 https://i.postimg.cc/XJsRjVzq/376139.jpg What forum is that from? |
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FB. That end the inspection scam guy is one of the prime movers of this bill and one of the reasons it got passed. Should be Jeremy Olsen. |
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Hello. I'm the prime sponsor of HB649. I received word today that the DES is of the opinion that after Jan 31, they no longer have statutory authority for the emissions testing. This means Jan 31 = No inspections at all. Thank you, everyone who helped get this passed. Also, I see an archived thread on the so-called "Sig Sauer Immunity" bill; thank you to the people who actually read the bill to know that it isn't what NPR said it was. You have my gratitude. |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: Hello. I'm the prime sponsor of HB649. I received word today that the DES is of the opinion that after Jan 31, they no longer have statutory authority for the emissions testing. This means Jan 31 = No inspections at all. Thank you, everyone who helped get this passed. Also, I see an archived thread on the so-called "Sig Sauer Immunity" bill; thank you to the people who actually read the bill to know that it isn't what NPR said it was. You have my gratitude. Welcome to Arfcom, thanks for posting, and thanks for the often thankless work you all do down in Concord. This bill, regardless of it being punted over to HB2, was a major win for folks in the state. Thank you. I don't speak for everyone, but please stick around. The sub tends to be quiet based on the way the board is formatted, but hey-the state is mostly quiet as well. |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: Hello. I'm the prime sponsor of HB649. I received word today that the DES is of the opinion that after Jan 31, they no longer have statutory authority for the emissions testing. This means Jan 31 = No inspections at all. Thank you, everyone who helped get this passed. Also, I see an archived thread on the so-called "Sig Sauer Immunity" bill; thank you to the people who actually read the bill to know that it isn't what NPR said it was. You have my gratitude. Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate it. |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: Hello. I'm the prime sponsor of HB649. I received word today that the DES is of the opinion that after Jan 31, they no longer have statutory authority for the emissions testing. This means Jan 31 = No inspections at all. Thank you, everyone who helped get this passed. Also, I see an archived thread on the so-called "Sig Sauer Immunity" bill; thank you to the people who actually read the bill to know that it isn't what NPR said it was. You have my gratitude. @Granger4NH Thank you for posting. To echo what FDC said, please stick around, and thanks for the work you have done on this. @FDC, given the above, I was clearly wrong in my assessment of how this was going to play out regarding stickers after 1/26 - couldn’t be happier to be wrong however. |
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| There is likely a bill on front plates. It comes every biennium, last biennium I co-sponsored it. It fails because of tollbooths and police testimony about these strange incidents where the crime would be impossible to solve without the front plate. One day, perhaps we'll get it. |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: There is likely a bill on front plates. It comes every biennium, last biennium I co-sponsored it. It fails because of tollbooths and police testimony about these strange incidents where the crime would be impossible to solve without the front plate. One day, perhaps we'll get it. I know this is just vanity of my car on my part but again thank you for the work on the inspection bill. It will directly save my family about 500 bucks this year. Car is perfectly fine and I know how to check tire pressures. |
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One thing to remember is HB649 is still alive and in the Senate as it was rereferred to committee. It currently sits as passed by the House. Today, the Senate Commerce Committee discussed adding amendments to it. The amendments are not listed on the GC site yet, and from the video, there are apparently errors in one of them. Sounds like it will see floor amendments to address the error. The gist appears to be: 1. Adding the language of SB157 which was signed by the governor last year but negated by the signing of HB2. 2. Adding some clear guidelines to LE and citizens what consists of a safe for the road vehicle. Example brought up multiple times is defining bald tires. Chapter 266 does not define this. 3. Requiring that school buses and placarded hazmat carriers get inspected. *Pretty sure this is where the error in the amendment was and will be a floor amendment. 4. Adding some sort of consumer/dealer protection when selling used cars. Maybe new too. Sounds relatively harmless--some of it makes sense even, and we have the House available to block shenanigans. Would rather see a standalone bill for these changes, but too late for that. That said, I have zero faith in the Senate to do the right thing here. Listen to them be completely outclassed by the Department of Safety and the AG's office. Then listen to Ricciardi and Perkins-Kwoka and their doom porn bullshit. Starts at about 27 minutes and runs for 45 minutes--mainly because the Department o Safety had to use increasingly smaller words for the Senators.  Senate Commerce (10/30/2025) |
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Originally Posted By wagonwheel1: I've never noticed so many expired red stickers in the last few months.  |
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Originally Posted By wagonwheel1: I've never noticed so many expired red stickers in the last few months. On the other hand, my bike has been uninspected for so long that the ticket is far cheaper than sum of inspections. |
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I have limited visibility into the Senate side of things; if they have an amendment that they discuss it doesn't really become public until they adopt it, therefore I don't know precisely what was in the amendment to add standards. The testimony provided by the DoS stated that they mostly were focusing on defining, in statute, the standards for stripped tires and whatnot. Without seeing the language I can neither confirm nor deny that, however defining some stuff in statute explicitly isn't the end of the world. If, however, it has a bunch of extra and unnecessary language that has nothing to do with fix-it tickets, then that's something else. I have to see the language before I can offer an opinion. As for SB157, it seems like there is an amendment to provide a technical correction. If we have language in statute due to SB157 that refers to chapters that no longer exist because they were eliminated by HB2, and the whole point of the bill is moot due to HB2 getting signed, then it behooves us to remove that now-erroneous language from statute. Again, I haven't seen what the amendment *actually* says but IF it is truly just house-keeping, I have no problem with them attaching that to HB649. We'll see when the Senate handles this on the floor; they are likely to have a floor amendment ready that is generally acceptable. If it is awful, we kill it in the house. If it is fine, we pass it in the house and send it to the Governor. In other news, there is an attempt by 3 Democrats to reinstate inspections. We'll be seeing this come down the pipe likely AFTER the inspections go away. I covered this in an X thread, you can view it here: https://x.com/Granger4NH/status/1991159565900251298 |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: I have limited visibility into the Senate side of things; if they have an amendment that they discuss it doesn't really become public until they adopt it, therefore I don't know precisely what was in the amendment to add standards. The testimony provided by the DoS stated that they mostly were focusing on defining, in statute, the standards for stripped tires and whatnot. Without seeing the language I can neither confirm nor deny that, however defining some stuff in statute explicitly isn't the end of the world. If, however, it has a bunch of extra and unnecessary language that has nothing to do with fix-it tickets, then that's something else. I have to see the language before I can offer an opinion. As for SB157, it seems like there is an amendment to provide a technical correction. If we have language in statute due to SB157 that refers to chapters that no longer exist because they were eliminated by HB2, and the whole point of the bill is moot due to HB2 getting signed, then it behooves us to remove that now-erroneous language from statute. Again, I haven't seen what the amendment *actually* says but IF it is truly just house-keeping, I have no problem with them attaching that to HB649. We'll see when the Senate handles this on the floor; they are likely to have a floor amendment ready that is generally acceptable. If it is awful, we kill it in the house. If it is fine, we pass it in the house and send it to the Governor. In other news, there is an attempt by 3 Democrats to reinstate inspections. We'll be seeing this come down the pipe likely AFTER the inspections go away. I covered this in an X thread, you can view it here: https://x.com/Granger4NH/status/1991159565900251298 Some people can't help but need the nanny state BS can they? Quick crappy google shows Montana, Idaho, and Wisconsin do not have safety inspections. Weird how we don't hear about millions of road safety deaths their right. Keep up the good fight, I left California (which ironically also doesn't have vehicle safety inspection BS) to get away from this type of crap. I promise I have never voted for any remotely oppressive nanny state BS things. |
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This was posted on my towns political facebook page. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By steve8140: This was posted on my towns political facebook page. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/223734/IMG_3300_jpeg-3672950.JPG That was in HB2 as well. |
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Originally Posted By Granger4NH: The fee of registration increases is NOT related to the inspection repeal. They were two separate bills and two separate budget amendments. Yeah, the fees were going up anyways whether the language from 649 for added or not.  ************************* Lawsuit from those Gordon Darby goons dropped Monday. |
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Just saw this. https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2026-01-28/nh-car-inspections-judge-grants-preliminary-injunction-against-repeal Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Auxcoastie: Saw the same story, my question is what standing does an out of state company have to challenge a NH law other than "we want to get paid". From the Sunapee PD: https://www.sunapeenh.gov/police-department/page/nh-inspection-law-update-motor-vehicle-inspections-remain-effect "On January 27, 2026, the court granted a preliminary injunction in Gordon-Darby Holdings, Inc. v. New Hampshire Department of Safety et al., finding that new Hampshire is required under federal law to maintain its vehicle inspection program unless and until the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) formally approves changes to the State's federally approved State Implementation Plan (SIP)." Link to court ruling: https://www.sunapeenh.gov/media/24631 |
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| Eat a bag of ***** you commie *****. I won't be getting a sticker, you can eat my *** and go **** yourselves, trying to use the EPA to force people to continue buying your product, **** you. Make a product people actually want to buy if you are so worried about your revenue. |
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Originally Posted By ShoulderNips: Eat a bag of ***** you commie *****. I won't be getting a sticker, you can eat my *** and go **** yourselves, trying to use the EPA to force people to continue buying your product, **** you. Make a product people actually want to buy if you are so worried about your revenue. This X 87 |
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At the end of the day, there is no law on the books starting Sunday. The legislature spoke, the governor approved. A fed judge can't magically put laws on state books. IANAL, but at least I don't think they can. There are plenty of states with absolutely no inspection at all, so this will get sorted out in the courts and likely in our favor. What you can do it put together a list of business that are cheering this. Across my feed, I've seen NUCAR in Plymouth, Mr Auto in Berlin, and via a post by Lancaster PD whose probably best cop owns Twisted Elm Auto, I know where not to spend my money. Every time you see a police department state that inspections are still required, ask them for the RSA. Laws requiring inspection:  Post from one of the southern ECs: 
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State released something. https://www.doj.nh.gov/news-and-media/public-guidance-vehicle-inspection-program-status 
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There is a hearing on a non germane amendment to HB1560 on the 3rd in House Transportation regarding the "live free and drive" push that has been tossed around in other SM. Changes stickers to secondary offense, $1 fine, etc. Line 6 is a bit weird as it is directing the repeal of 266:1-a which was already repealed. If I get bored enough, I'm going to have to read the judge's 44 page decision again. I only skimmed through it, but thought one of her arguments was NH DES had rulemaking authority which allowed inspections and wasn't referencing the repealed law. Oh well, I guess that's why I played army instead of lawyer. Click on the amendment if you want to read it. It's a short one. https://gc.nh.gov/bill_Status/billinfo.aspx?id=1508 |
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This is part of the summary at the bottom of the amendment: "The bill also directs the department of safety to issue an RFP for emissions and OBD II diagnostic testing contracts and to terminate any contract with Gordon Darby Holdings." Gordon Darby is learning what FAFO means. |
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Originally Posted By JCoop: This is part of the summary at the bottom of the amendment: "The bill also directs the department of safety to issue an RFP for emissions and OBD II diagnostic testing contracts and to terminate any contract with Gordon Darby Holdings." Gordon Darby is learning what FAFO means. Good. |
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Originally Posted By JCoop: This is part of the summary at the bottom of the amendment: "The bill also directs the department of safety to issue an RFP for emissions and OBD II diagnostic testing contracts and to terminate any contract with Gordon Darby Holdings." Gordon Darby is learning what FAFO means. Seems like a whole bunch of folks are annoyed that NH followed the terms of the contract and appropriately notified Gordon Darby of termination and Gordon Darby sues the state anyways. |
Several folks had to say some unkind things, but we eventually beat an enforcement statement out of Lancaster' chief this morning. He further goes on to discuss the grace period mentioned by the AG above. Public messaging may not be in the job description, but when you own a town of a couple thousand folks plus several thousand daily visitors AND you're known to be informative on SM which is appreciated, accurate public messaging is expected. Get out early with the accurate guidance. Not vague left open to interpretation junk. |
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I just was taking screenshots to post here. Too slow. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By eric496: I just was taking screenshots to post here. Too slow. I have an extension on my browser to monitor some pages for changes every 24 hours. It dinged at the right time.  Extension is "distill" and at least works on firefox variants. It's handy for orgs/agencies that have no email distro and consider a webpage update "public notice". |
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Looks like Gordon-Darby is determined to push this. https://www.wmur.com/article/gordon-darby-files-motion-nh-car-inspections/70764816 |
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Originally Posted By OBXT: Looks like Gordon-Darby is determined to push this. https://www.wmur.com/article/gordon-darby-files-motion-nh-car-inspections/70764816 I saw that. Hope they get slapped down in court. I follow a bunch of NH politicians and they're pretty angry. I am too. There was a post on X about lots of people scraping their inspection stickers off and mailing them to that judge that issued the ruling. Can't find it now. |
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Browsing reddit/other social media, there are enough people mildly annoyed at G-D that the successful removal of the requirement is universally popular regardless of their previous stance. and the requirement for inspection was removed successfully There is no law and the only folks who can put it back are two legislative bodies and a governor concurring. Activist judge can't, AG can't, and neither can the EC. Now it is likely possible that administrative rules and procedures can be worked so as to tie it to the registration process or similar. That won't get you pulled over for sticker color as there is no law right now. It's possible we'll be held in contempt and have to start paying fines, but the state sortof tied their hands by thankfully allowing the House* to Leeroy Jenkins this through. *Always remember the Senate tried to screw us here. We're at the point now that either fines are coming, an appeal gets granted, G-D bribes the three men on the EC, or the Governor sends the EPA a truck from the NH liquor stores with a note saying please make this dumb shit go away as it should not take 18 months to execute an approval. |
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Look at this faggotry. https://apps.das.nh.gov/NHProcurement/Bid/rfp-dos-202620 The EXSUM reads like "hey look, we're complying with the court order"... Still, give it a rest folks. 
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Originally Posted By FDC: The EXSUM reads like "hey look, we're complying with the court order"... Still, give it a rest folks. |
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