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Posted: 1/21/2014 7:30:27 PM EDT
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Come on down out of that hellhole, and f*** Cuomo and Bloomberg both!
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Posted: 1/21/2014 7:36:00 PM EDT
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Come on down out of that hellhole, and f*** Cuomo and Bloomberg both! One step at a time brother, first I need to find work down there. We're talking about two established lives. Even though the professional portion is in tatters for both of us, we have family and friends, she owns a house which will either need to be sold or rented out, consolidate two households to form one (that's a big step in terms of our relationship). I have to be honest, the prospect is daunting. But every day that goes by when I go to bed without a purpose to get up for in the morning (steady employment) I realize this state is killing me emotionally, financially, and in terms of my freedom and future. |
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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:31:07 PM EDT
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Baker Donelson (sp?) is a huge law firm with offices in Nashville area, and there has GOT to be some sort of PR firms in the area.
You know, Nashville. ETA: looks like Baker Donelson has offices in Memphis, Chattanooga, and Knoxville as well. Get your ass down here. |
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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:52:38 PM EDT
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Baker Donelson (sp?) is a huge law firm with offices in Nashville area, and there has GOT to be some sort of PR firms in the area. You know, Nashville. ETA: looks like Baker Donelson has offices in Memphis, Chattanooga, and Knoxville as well. Get your ass down here. Stacey is not really the type to practice in a firm. She prefers real estate law, education (special Ed/needs), or not for profit, something without the pressure of 60 billable a a week. I on he other hand can do really well in a fast paced environment, and used to do 70 hour weeks routinely when I was with the governor's office. Of course, I was quite a bit younger. Like I said, its not just a matter of coming down there. The past year, and the SAFE Act, have financially devastated me. We have to figure out how we will swing this. I think she and I are in agreement we are more interested in Eastern TN. I have experience in governmental administration and communications, political communications and elections campaigns, and corporate communications in the telecom, healthcare, and environmental finance and remediation areas. With the economy booming down there, I'm sure there are a lot of opportunities. What's the deal with CCW? I have full carry in NY and CT, and used to have FL, UT, and NV. I know some instructors locally if I needed to renew those three that have since expired. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 4:01:05 AM EDT
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Your permit will likely be honored for six months after moving. You can easily get a TN permit in under a month.
I lived in Knoxville for a month on business. Nashville is better.  If you want land, you're going to end up with a bit of a commute into any city. A house is easy to come by, but a house on 20 acres is going to be a bit further out. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 5:25:15 AM EDT
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I would not go so far as to say our economy is booming down here in TN. It's probably better than other places, but booming, I don't think so. Is it better than NY, probably.
With the type of work experiences you both appear to have, locating in one of the four main metro areas in the state is probably where you will have the best chance of finding jobs. But to get the acreage you desire, you will be commuting. If it were me, I would concentrate on east and middle parts of the state. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 6:27:11 AM EDT
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I'm really not interested in a lot of land. Not particularly interested in living in a city either. Suburbs within a 20-30 minute drive. If we do this we's probably rent a place for the first year to get our legs under us before settling on a more permanent location. Appreciate the insight.
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Posted: 1/22/2014 6:29:40 AM EDT
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Renting would be a good idea if new to the area. That gives you some time to get the lay of the land and does not tie you down.
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Posted: 1/22/2014 6:54:40 AM EDT
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Renting would be a good idea if new to the area. That gives you some time to get the lay of the land and does not tie you down. I requested a guide to apartments in the Knoxville area around 1AM, but 10AM I had about eight emails from rental agents. Your cost of living must be significantly less down there. I pay $835 a month for a one bedroom, and on average $125 for gas and electric, and another $135 for cable and Internet. A lot of these units seem to be brand new, and include cable and Internet. Heck, looks like we could rent a two bedroom house with internal and external maintenance for around $1,000 a month. 
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Posted: 1/22/2014 7:38:35 AM EDT
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I requested a guide to apartments in the Knoxville area around 1AM, but 10AM I had about eight emails from rental agents. Your cost of living must be significantly less down there. I pay $835 a month for a one bedroom, and on average $125 for gas and electric, and another $135 for cable and Internet. A lot of these units seem to be brand new, and include cable and Internet. Heck, looks like we could rent a two bedroom house with internal and external maintenance for around $1,000 a month. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Renting would be a good idea if new to the area. That gives you some time to get the lay of the land and does not tie you down. I requested a guide to apartments in the Knoxville area around 1AM, but 10AM I had about eight emails from rental agents. Your cost of living must be significantly less down there. I pay $835 a month for a one bedroom, and on average $125 for gas and electric, and another $135 for cable and Internet. A lot of these units seem to be brand new, and include cable and Internet. Heck, looks like we could rent a two bedroom house with internal and external maintenance for around $1,000 a month. Our cost of living should be significantly lower than yours. However, caveat emptor! It's all about location, location, location as to apartments and houses. Do you have kids that are school age? This will have an impact on your location as to schools. If you don't have kids, this will free you up as to location. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 7:40:52 AM EDT
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No children, and we will both be 42 this year, so that's not likely to change.
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Posted: 1/22/2014 7:51:31 AM EDT
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That will open your options not having to deal with the school issue.
Lots of apts being built in Knoxville and also down in Chattanooga as well. I live in Knoxville and am in Chattanooga several times a week on business. To be honest, I like both areas with a better nod to Chattanooga. Their downtown area is nicer than Knoxville with regards to entertainment, restaurants, etc. I think the economy is a bit better there as well. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 7:56:59 AM EDT
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That will open your options not having to deal with the school issue. Lots of apts being built in Knoxville and also down in Chattanooga as well. I live in Knoxville and am in Chattanooga several times a week on business. To be honest, I like both areas with a better nod to Chattanooga. Their downtown area is nicer than Knoxville with regards to entertainment, restaurants, etc. I think the economy is a bit better there as well. Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 8:00:48 AM EDT
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Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That will open your options not having to deal with the school issue. Lots of apts being built in Knoxville and also down in Chattanooga as well. I live in Knoxville and am in Chattanooga several times a week on business. To be honest, I like both areas with a better nod to Chattanooga. Their downtown area is nicer than Knoxville with regards to entertainment, restaurants, etc. I think the economy is a bit better there as well. Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, About 100 miles. Chattanooga is on the GA/TN state line. Chattanooga is south of Knoxville. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:12:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That will open your options not having to deal with the school issue. Lots of apts being built in Knoxville and also down in Chattanooga as well. I live in Knoxville and am in Chattanooga several times a week on business. To be honest, I like both areas with a better nod to Chattanooga. Their downtown area is nicer than Knoxville with regards to entertainment, restaurants, etc. I think the economy is a bit better there as well. Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:28:34 AM EDT
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I'm sorry to tell you this but ALL of Tn is in the Mississippi river watershed. The TN river flows through Knoxville and Chattanooga. The Cumberland through Nashville. Blount County south of Knoxville is the 2nd fastest growing county in TN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That will open your options not having to deal with the school issue. Lots of apts being built in Knoxville and also down in Chattanooga as well. I live in Knoxville and am in Chattanooga several times a week on business. To be honest, I like both areas with a better nod to Chattanooga. Their downtown area is nicer than Knoxville with regards to entertainment, restaurants, etc. I think the economy is a bit better there as well. Thanks, about how far apart are they? We are looking at Eastern TN because Stacey doesn't want to be near the Mississippi River watershed. She has some chemical sensitivity issues that she doesn't want to risk exacerbating, I think she is referencing to directly along the Miss, she realizes there are tributaries no matter where you are in the state. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:53:44 AM EDT
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OP, where in NY are you currently?
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:57:09 AM EDT
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OP, where in NY are you currently? I'm near Albany, she has a house in the Berkshires (MA). |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 4:55:17 AM EDT
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I live 30minutes south of Knoxville and 45min north of Chattanooga.
I live essentially in between two large cities. I love the quite country life but at times the wife needs the city. I pay roughly 900$ a month for everything but I mow my own lawn. 700$ for the house 150$ for electric 14$ for trash 50$ for water. It is a 3BR 2bath 1200sq, with 1000sq of extra basement space. So yeah the cost of living is way down if you find the right deals. We will welcome you and will point you in the right direction to get your permit. It is taking right under 2 weeks to get your permit back. Guy at work turned his in on the 2nd and got it back yesterday. Total cost can be 165$ if you find the 50$ class. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:30:31 AM EDT
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I live 30minutes south of Knoxville and 45min north of Chattanooga. I live essentially in between two large cities. I love the quite country life but at times the wife needs the city. I pay roughly 900$ a month for everything but I mow my own lawn. 700$ for the house 150$ for electric 14$ for trash 50$ for water. It is a 3BR 2bath 1200sq, with 1000sq of extra basement space. So yeah the cost of living is way down if you find the right deals. We will welcome you and will point you in the right direction to get your permit. It is taking right under 2 weeks to get your permit back. Guy at work turned his in on the 2nd and got it back yesterday. Total cost can be 165$ if you find the 50$ class. Athens? |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:48:46 AM EDT
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Chattanooga is 1.5hr drive from Knoxville. Both cities are good to go if you want to live there.
I would check out Chattanooga and Maryville first for living. Knoxville and Chattanooga for working. For what you pay to rent up there, you could buy down here. But if you're wanting to rent first, West and North Knoxville are your best bets for Apts. Don't pay more than $800/mo for rent though or you're throwing away money, considering all the options for apts around town. I suppose you could live downtown for NY prices, but I've done it and it's not worth it. The lofts that are affordable have lots of college kids and aren't very insulated for sound, if you catch my drift. (don't ask  )
The best thing about either city is that you can be in the middle of things, and a 30min drive can put you in the middle of nowhere. You might want to look into HGTV. Their HQ is in Knoxville and there may be some employment opportunities there for your line of work. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:00:42 AM EDT
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Good point Durka on the lofts in downtown Knoxville. That has gotten to be quite the rage, UT students living down there. This has inflated the market I believe and on top of that, there are not many places to shop downtown for groceries and such, still.
Chattanooga on the other hand, has lofts downtown (I am sure pricey as well) but they at least have grocery stores, etc. that make downtown living a lot easier. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 7:20:53 AM EDT
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Can I jump in? My family and I are looking at Johnson City area. Wife and daughters are nurses and I am a paramedic. Any input on that area would be great. And Hiram, your talk with the SO sounded like my talk with the family. They jumped at the idea. Hate to leave the country in upstate but there is no hope for the State.
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Posted: 1/23/2014 3:57:14 PM EDT
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HiramRanger and RetiredBU,
I'm happy to hear that you're both looking at Tennessee. I live in the Nashville area. I was born in Chattanooga and lived there for many years. With a little bit more information, I could probably make calls for you regarding work, general advice and acting as a local guide if you make any scouting trips this way. If there is anything I can do to help you, don't hesitate to let me know. Tachyon |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:32:42 PM EDT
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HiramRanger and RetiredBU, I'm happy to hear that you're both looking at Tennessee. I live in the Nashville area. I was born in Chattanooga and lived there for many years. With a little bit more information, I could probably make calls for you regarding work, general advice and acting as a local guide if you make any scouting trips this way. If there is anything I can do to help you, don't hesitate to let me know. Tachyon I'd be happy to send you a copy of my CV if that would be helpful. Thank you very much. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:15:37 PM EDT
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Look at Southeast TN. I'm about 25 minutes north of Chattanooga. The economy here isn't what I would call booming, but it is better than most of the country and most of the state. It is growing pretty fast as several companies have located here in the past 5 years.
As an attorney, your GF should have no problems finding employment. Funny you should mention real estate and special education law. I have both real estate and special ed attorneys working for me right now
If you end up moving here, I can give you the name of a good pro 2A dentist 
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:20:53 PM EDT
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Look at Southeast TN. I'm about 25 minutes north of Chattanooga. The economy here isn't what I would call booming, but it is better than most of the country and most of the state. It is growing pretty fast as several companies have located here in the past 5 years. As an attorney, your GF should have no problems finding employment. Funny you should mention real estate and special education law. I have both real estate and special ed attorneys working for me right now
If you end up moving here, I can give you the name of a good pro 2A dentist That's good, I have impacted wisdom teeth and another tooth broken off below the gum line. Dead tooth that had a previous root canal. I have no full time work, no health insurance, and no rights. I honestly have no idea if we can even swing a move financially. Might be looking at selling everything just to get there and put a roof over our heads. I'm not sure we will be able to chance a move without employment lined up first. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:35:54 PM EDT
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That's good, I have impacted wisdom teeth and another tooth broken off below the gum line. Dead tooth that had a previous root canal. I have no full time work, no health insurance, and no rights. I honestly have no idea if we can even swing a move financially. Might be looking at selling everything just to get there and put a roof over our heads. I'm not sure we will be able to chance a move without employment lined up first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at Southeast TN. I'm about 25 minutes north of Chattanooga. The economy here isn't what I would call booming, but it is better than most of the country and most of the state. It is growing pretty fast as several companies have located here in the past 5 years. As an attorney, your GF should have no problems finding employment. Funny you should mention real estate and special education law. I have both real estate and special ed attorneys working for me right now
If you end up moving here, I can give you the name of a good pro 2A dentist That's good, I have impacted wisdom teeth and another tooth broken off below the gum line. Dead tooth that had a previous root canal. I have no full time work, no health insurance, and no rights. I honestly have no idea if we can even swing a move financially. Might be looking at selling everything just to get there and put a roof over our heads. I'm not sure we will be able to chance a move without employment lined up first. If you do move here, you will be astounded at the cost of living differences. Everything is much cheaper here. Housing, food, gas, electric rates, etc. Not only that, but you will get to keep a lot more of the money that you all earn as there is no state income tax. I can't remember what NY state income tax is, but I remember it being insanely high. When I was a resident, my employer was Lutheran medical center in Brooklyn. Even though I was not physically working in NY, the fuckers still took out NY state income tax. That was my first fuck NY experience
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:38:18 PM EDT
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Good to know. Please keep me in mind if you know anybody looking for PR, not-for-profit management, public affairs, or political consulting services. If you do move here, you will be astounded at the cost of living differences. Everything is much cheaper here. Housing, food, gas, electric rates, etc. Not only that, but you will get to keep a lot more of the money that you all earn as there is no state income tax. I can't remember what NY state income tax is, but I remember it being insanely high. When I was a resident, my employer was Lutheran medical center in Brooklyn. Even though I was not physically working in NY, the fuckers still took out NY state income tax. That was my first fuck NY experience Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at Southeast TN. I'm about 25 minutes north of Chattanooga. The economy here isn't what I would call booming, but it is better than most of the country and most of the state. It is growing pretty fast as several companies have located here in the past 5 years. As an attorney, your GF should have no problems finding employment. Funny you should mention real estate and special education law. I have both real estate and special ed attorneys working for me right now
If you end up moving here, I can give you the name of a good pro 2A dentist That's good, I have impacted wisdom teeth and another tooth broken off below the gum line. Dead tooth that had a previous root canal. I have no full time work, no health insurance, and no rights. I honestly have no idea if we can even swing a move financially. Might be looking at selling everything just to get there and put a roof over our heads. I'm not sure we will be able to chance a move without employment lined up first. Good to know. Please keep me in mind if you know anybody looking for PR, not-for-profit management, public affairs, or political consulting services. If you do move here, you will be astounded at the cost of living differences. Everything is much cheaper here. Housing, food, gas, electric rates, etc. Not only that, but you will get to keep a lot more of the money that you all earn as there is no state income tax. I can't remember what NY state income tax is, but I remember it being insanely high. When I was a resident, my employer was Lutheran medical center in Brooklyn. Even though I was not physically working in NY, the fuckers still took out NY state income tax. That was my first fuck NY experience |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HiramRanger and RetiredBU, I'm happy to hear that you're both looking at Tennessee. I live in the Nashville area. I was born in Chattanooga and lived there for many years. With a little bit more information, I could probably make calls for you regarding work, general advice and acting as a local guide if you make any scouting trips this way. If there is anything I can do to help you, don't hesitate to let me know. Tachyon Count me and my wife in as well. We are specifically looking at the Knoxville area. Do you have any recommendations for neighborhoods where we should rent an apartment? We're planning a final scouting visit in late August/early September with a hopeful move date of October/November. I work in the computer training field with a focus in graphic design and desktop publishing. For samples of my work look at the Team Ranstad thread. Any help or advice you can offer would be more than welcome. Thanks. David |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 7:02:49 PM EDT
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Count me and my wife in as well. We are specifically looking at the Knoxville area. Do you have any recommendations for neighborhoods where we should rent an apartment? We're planning a final scouting visit in late August/early September with a hopeful move date of October/November. I work in the computer training field with a focus in graphic design and desktop publishing. For samples of my work look at the Team Ranstad thread. Any help or advice you can offer would be more than welcome. Thanks. David Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HiramRanger and RetiredBU, I'm happy to hear that you're both looking at Tennessee. I live in the Nashville area. I was born in Chattanooga and lived there for many years. With a little bit more information, I could probably make calls for you regarding work, general advice and acting as a local guide if you make any scouting trips this way. If there is anything I can do to help you, don't hesitate to let me know. Tachyon Count me and my wife in as well. We are specifically looking at the Knoxville area. Do you have any recommendations for neighborhoods where we should rent an apartment? We're planning a final scouting visit in late August/early September with a hopeful move date of October/November. I work in the computer training field with a focus in graphic design and desktop publishing. For samples of my work look at the Team Ranstad thread. Any help or advice you can offer would be more than welcome. Thanks. David apartments chamber of commerce... major employers headhunters |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 7:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: apartments - That will be useful. We still want neighborhood recommendations from locals. chamber of commerce... major employers - Had already seen this. Somewhat out of date but still informative headhunters - I though they were only found in the Pacific islands.  Thanks. David |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 7:28:20 PM EDT
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Count me and my wife in as well. We are specifically looking at the Knoxville area. Do you have any recommendations for neighborhoods where we should rent an apartment? We're planning a final scouting visit in late August/early September with a hopeful move date of October/November. I work in the computer training field with a focus in graphic design and desktop publishing. For samples of my work look at the Team Ranstad thread. Any help or advice you can offer would be more than welcome. Thanks. David Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HiramRanger and RetiredBU, I'm happy to hear that you're both looking at Tennessee. I live in the Nashville area. I was born in Chattanooga and lived there for many years. With a little bit more information, I could probably make calls for you regarding work, general advice and acting as a local guide if you make any scouting trips this way. If there is anything I can do to help you, don't hesitate to let me know. Tachyon Count me and my wife in as well. We are specifically looking at the Knoxville area. Do you have any recommendations for neighborhoods where we should rent an apartment? We're planning a final scouting visit in late August/early September with a hopeful move date of October/November. I work in the computer training field with a focus in graphic design and desktop publishing. For samples of my work look at the Team Ranstad thread. Any help or advice you can offer would be more than welcome. Thanks. David I grew up 1 hour east of Knoxville and have spent quite a bit of time there. For the most part, West Knoxville and Farragut are the nicest areas. Of course, those areas are going to be more expensive. You should still be able to get a nice 2 bedroom apt for $800-$900 With your experience, you should see if TVA is hiring. I have a friend who is in IT and one who is an electrical engineer that work at the main TVA branch in Knoxville. It is a cush job with excellent pay and benefits. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 8:29:16 AM EDT
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Can I jump in? My family and I are looking at Johnson City area. Wife and daughters are nurses and I am a paramedic. Any input on that area would be great. And Hiram, your talk with the SO sounded like my talk with the family. They jumped at the idea. Hate to leave the country in upstate but there is no hope for the State. Johnson City is COUNTRY but it's really pretty country and it's growing. There's a big Veteran's hospital there too. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 8:53:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I grew up 1 hour east of Knoxville and have spent quite a bit of time there. For the most part, West Knoxville and Farragut are the nicest areas. Of course, those areas are going to be more expensive. You should still be able to get a nice 2 bedroom apt for $800-$900 With your experience, you should see if TVA is hiring. I have a friend who is in IT and one who is an electrical engineer that work at the main TVA branch in Knoxville. It is a cush job with excellent pay and benefits. Thanks for the suggestions, especially the TVA. I never would have thought of them. David |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:00:38 PM EDT
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I live 30minutes south of Knoxville and 45min north of Chattanooga. I live essentially in between two large cities. I love the quite country life but at times the wife needs the city. I pay roughly 900$ a month for everything but I mow my own lawn. 700$ for the house 150$ for electric 14$ for trash 50$ for water. It is a 3BR 2bath 1200sq, with 1000sq of extra basement space. So yeah the cost of living is way down if you find the right deals. We will welcome you and will point you in the right direction to get your permit. It is taking right under 2 weeks to get your permit back. Guy at work turned his in on the 2nd and got it back yesterday. Total cost can be 165$ if you find the 50$ class. Athens? Yeah I guess you can call this Athens. The two city limits are within 2 miles of each other. I love living here. I can open the back door and enjoy nice quite nothing, but I am within 5 minutes of the interstate. I am within 5 minutes of work as well, but if I ever have a problem with my job I have two major cities within an hour for work. And 3 dozen smaller cities in between as well. |
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