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Posted: 4/17/2008 11:03:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 11:40:26 AM EST by DaveM4P99]
This may be a crazy question, and it may be wishful thinking, but here goes...

I will soon be getting my NYC rifle shotgun permit (even though I primarily live upstate, it is still fine for non-residents with rental apartments to get rifle shotgun permits).

In my primary residence upstate, I have my Colt Match Target rifle.

If I was to simply remove the pistol grip, and have only 5 round mags, that would no longer make it an "assault weapon" according to NYC administrative code.

On the application instructions from the NYPD, it does list a number of banned weapons. The Colt AR-15 is listed, however not the Colt Match Target.

I am pretty sure that just because it's not called an "AR-15" by name, it's still banned.

But would removing the pistol grip and getting 5 round mags make it OK?

I wonder what happens when you try to register one of these "banned" guns by mail anyway? Do they come to your apartment and knock down the door with a search warrant?

Anyway, thanks for any help!
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 11:41:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 6:17:46 AM EST
Thanks for the reply.

Anyone have any other thoughts other than a one word answer?
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 7:27:23 AM EST
No.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 8:23:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 9:43:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2008 9:44:28 AM EST by DaveM4P99]
I have read NYC law top to bottom concerning their weapons laws already...that is what I was commenting on in my original post.

law.justia.com/newyork/codes/new-york-city-administrative-code-new/idx_adc0t10c3.html

10-301 gives definitions...(i pasted the definition below)

16. "Assault weapon."
(a) Any semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifle or semiautomatic
shotgun which has one or more of the following features:
1. folding or telescoping stock or no stock;
2. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the
weapon;
3. bayonet mount;
4. flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash
suppressor;
5. barrel shroud;
6. grenade launcher; or
7. modifications of such features, or other features, determined by
rule of the commissioner to be particularly suitable for military and
not sporting purposes. In addition, the commissioner shall, by rule,
designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or
semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and/or manufacturer's
name, as within the definition of assault weapon, if the commissioner
determines that such weapons are particularly suitable for military and
not sporting purposes. The commissioner shall inspect such specific
designated semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic
shotguns at least three times per year, and shall revise or update such
designations as he or she deems appropriate.


Now I will call and ask the rifle shotgun section this, but if the Match Target MT6400C model is not listed as banned, and if I make it compliant, is it still illegal?

I understand that NYC is the land of NO, but why not stir up the nest, and challenge the laws by asking questions and discussing.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 9:45:30 AM EST
I think that number 7 is where they are gonna shoot you down.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 10:12:36 AM EST


I understand that NYC is the land of NO, but why not stir up the nest, and challenge the laws by asking questions and discussing.


OK - you first...I say you sling up your "Match Target MT6400C model is not listed as banned" and jump on the uptown 6. You should be good ta go - just say you're going range if NYPD bothers to ask...
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 4:51:14 AM EST
How do you plan on getting rid of the pistol grip?
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 6:41:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Vinnie:
How do you plan on getting rid of the pistol grip?


? It Won't make any difference though. NYPD won't get past the words "Colt Match Target".

www.monstermangrip.com/Home_Page.php
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 12:08:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By Vinnie:
How do you plan on getting rid of the pistol grip?


? It Won't make any difference though. NYPD won't get past the words "Colt Match Target".

www.monstermangrip.com/Home_Page.php


I was just wondering how he planned on getting rid of the pistol grip.
Link Posted: 4/20/2008 3:55:50 AM EST
in the land of Bloomie and the ilk before him, you simply can not have your moldy bread and eat it too. Must you live or stay within the confines of the 5 boroughs ? If so, give up the thought of ARs, AKs etc etc.
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