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Posted: 2/1/2006 10:21:03 AM EDT

I know it's illegal to carry in any establishment that serves alcohol. Are there any places that prohibit carrying and hiking? What is the law regarding this? I've seen signs that read "Use of Firearms Prohibited." Can this be construed to mean carrying as well?

Thanks!

Posted: 2/1/2006 11:06:01 AM EDT

[#1]

Also, I just moved to the state and am unsure if there are any restrictions for out-of-state residents? Please reply with a legal response so I can be sure that I am in "absolutely" no violation of the law.

Posted: 2/1/2006 4:59:44 PM EDT

[#2]

First off..... do you have your CCW. Second are you asking about open carry or concealed, because Arizona is a ''shall issue'' state. Basically you can open carry wherever unless otherwise posted. But I would still get my CCW if you dont already have it. (Its really a peice of cake)

Posted: 2/1/2006 6:07:19 PM EDT

[#3]

I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

Posted: 2/1/2006 6:15:46 PM EDT

[#4]

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I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

I'm in the Flagstaff area so I specifically wanted to know if it was permissable to carry in the Coconino National Forest even though a sign at one of the trail heads states "Firearm Use is Prohibited."

I also checked into CCW, but I need to establish residency first.

Posted: 2/1/2006 6:39:32 PM EDT

[#5]

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I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

I'm in the Flagstaff area so I specifically wanted to know if it was permissable to carry in the Coconino National Forest even though a sign at one of the trail heads states "Firearm Use is Prohibited."

I also checked into CCW, but I need to establish residency first.

If you can carry legally in the state of Arizona you also can carry on national forest property but not in any builing on that property, as it is owned by the federal government.

Posted: 2/1/2006 6:52:12 PM EDT

[#6]

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I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

I'm in the Flagstaff area so I specifically wanted to know if it was permissable to carry in the Coconino National Forest even though a sign at one of the trail heads states "Firearm Use is Prohibited."

I also checked into CCW, but I need to establish residency first.

If you can carry legally in the state of Arizona you also can carry on national forest property but not in any builing on that property, as it is owned by the federal government.

Thanks for the replies guys! I was reading through the existing laws and was somewhat confused, not knowing where exactly I can open carry. Thanks for clearing things up! BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY!

Posted: 2/1/2006 6:56:28 PM EDT

[#7]

... Wouldn't want to incriminate myself or anything

... But if I had a handgun, I'd probably carry it with me whenever and wherever I hiked

Posted: 2/1/2006 7:17:06 PM EDT

[#8]

in a related issue, what is the 18-year old carrying specifics? I know it has to be open and I cant buy the ammo or the actual firearm from any FFL. Someone mentioned some "promissary" note bullshit I would need to have that stated the pistol model and serial numbers and have it notorized, AKA register my owning and being able to carry those firearms within the limits of the law.

I thought it was just open carry, no paperwork. What the fuck, over?

Posted: 2/2/2006 4:47:54 AM EDT

[#9]

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I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

I'm in the Flagstaff area so I specifically wanted to know if it was permissable to carry in the Coconino National Forest even though a sign at one of the trail heads states "Firearm Use is Prohibited."

I also checked into CCW, but I need to establish residency first.

National Forests- Yes
National Parks- No

If you have your CCW, IIRC you can carry in a national forest campground (even though it's marked "No Firearms").

Posted: 2/2/2006 10:17:12 AM EDT

[#10]

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... Wouldn't want to incriminate myself or anything

... But if I had a handgun, I'd probably carry it with me whenever and wherever I hiked

Yeah. If you hike or bike south mountain (for example), guns are not allowed. I always ignore that idiotic shit!

A few years back there was some perv exposing himself back in there or something. You'd have to be a fool not to take your gun.

Posted: 2/2/2006 11:10:33 AM EDT

[#11]

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... Wouldn't want to incriminate myself or anything

... But if I had a handgun, I'd probably carry it with me whenever and wherever I hiked

Yeah. If you hike or bike south mountain (for example), guns are not allowed. I always ignore that idiotic shit!

A few years back there was some perv exposing himself back in there or something. You'd have to be a fool not to take your gun.

Damn right! If you see some guy shaking his dick out in the woods, draw down and blow it off! "You were just taking a piss?". "Well, excuse me sir, we'll just call the aid car and see if they can re-attach your dick."

Damn, and here I thought that one of the simpler pleasures in life was taking a piss in the bushes and feeling the nice cool breeze on my balls. I guess I better be more careful in the future.

Posted: 2/2/2006 1:01:40 PM EDT

[#12]

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Damn right! If you see some guy shaking his dick out in the woods, draw down and blow it off! "You were just taking a piss?". "Well, excuse me sir, we'll just call the aid car and see if they can re-attach your dick."

Damn, and here I thought that one of the simpler pleasures in life was taking a piss in the bushes and feeling the nice cool breeze on my balls. I guess I better be more careful in the future.

That's cute!

I think this guy was all naked and such, though. Jumping out and chasing women if I remember correctly.

Posted: 2/2/2006 3:04:38 PM EDT

[#13]

No issues. You're 18, you can open carry just like any other adult. Just remember weapon retention, threat levels, and your situational awareness.

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in a related issue, what is the 18-year old carrying specifics? I know it has to be open and I cant buy the ammo or the actual firearm from any FFL. Someone mentioned some "promissary" note bullshit I would need to have that stated the pistol model and serial numbers and have it notorized, AKA register my owning and being able to carry those firearms within the limits of the law.

I thought it was just open carry, no paperwork. What the fuck, over?

Posted: 2/3/2006 8:11:35 AM EDT

[#14]

It's only a hundred bucks... Go take a good CCW class even if you're going to open carry and can't leagally get a CCW permit yet.

There are a handful of fundamental rules you MUST know if you are going to carry a firearm in Arizona. We may be one of the more gun friendly states in the nation, but you still have to play by the rules or it's your arse heading to jail, even if the bad guy is going to the morgue.

Heck, a CCW course is good even if you never plan to carry. Anyone who owns firearms would bennefit from the guidelines and rules they teach you about Arizona firearms law.

Posted: 2/3/2006 9:17:22 AM EDT

[#15]

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It's only a hundred bucks... Go take a good CCW class even if you're going to open carry and can't leagally get a CCW permit yet.

There are a handful of fundamental rules you MUST know if you are going to carry a firearm in Arizona. We may be one of the more gun friendly states in the nation, but you still have to play by the rules or it's your arse heading to jail, even if the bad guy is going to the morgue.

Heck, a CCW course is good even if you never plan to carry. Anyone who owns firearms would bennefit from the guidelines and rules they teach you about Arizona firearms law.

Still have not become a resident yet. I just left Unarmed Socialist State of California. Do I need to become a resident before taking the class. And, when I can take the class, from who should I take it. Got a brochure for Citadel Firearms Training. Any good?

Posted: 2/3/2006 9:58:03 AM EDT

[#16]

Still have not become a resident yet. I just left Unarmed Socialist State of California. Do I need to become a resident before taking the class. And, when I can take the class, from who should I take it. Got a brochure for Citadel Firearms Training. Any good?

I don't believe you need to be a resident to take the class or even be 21 for that matter. You would just need to let the instructor know that you're just there to sit in and that you are not intending to write the test, shoot your qualification or get fingerprinted.

As to which CCW to take, I'd suggest Scottsdale Gun Club, the crew they have teaching it when I took it last year made the experience engaging. They bring a mix of LEO & legal experience so you get to hear real world cases from folks with first hand experience. Do a search on the board though, you'll find a lot of replies to this very question.

Good luck and welcome to the land of the free,

AzDak

Posted: 2/3/2006 10:44:36 AM EDT

[#17]

Only problem is that I'm in the Flagstaff area. I am not sure it would be possible for me to travel down there. Do you know of any around here or even Sedona or Prescott. I appreciate your help in all of this!

Posted: 2/3/2006 6:14:34 PM EDT

[#18]

You do not have to be a "resident" to obtain or carry using an AZ CWP. Just make sure you have ID with your correct address when you go to take the class.

Posted: 2/3/2006 9:18:04 PM EDT

[#19]

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I carry most of the time when I go hiking. Little things like javalina, and bigger things like mountain lions make me weary. Plus if you hike in far-off places (especially down south by the border) you never know what you might run in to...

I'm in the Flagstaff area so I specifically wanted to know if it was permissable to carry in the Coconino National Forest even though a sign at one of the trail heads states "Firearm Use is Prohibited."

I also checked into CCW, but I need to establish residency first.

I don't know what you mean by "residency". When I moved here I got my AZ driver license the 2nd day I was here and my CCW the 2nd week I was here. That was almost 3 years ago.

Posted: 2/7/2006 3:08:16 PM EDT

[#20]

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I don't know what you mean by "residency". When I moved here I got my AZ driver license the 2nd day I was here and my CCW the 2nd week I was here. That was almost 3 years ago.

Residency is only an issue if you are not a US citizen (you have to prove you are a legal alien and have lived in AZ continuously for 90 days). Otherwise, a US citizen can apply, even if they are not a resident of AZ.