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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:39:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 9:56:10 AM EST by mwarnick1]
Update below. Thank you all for your help.


> The classroom training and BFA practical at BRSP went off without incident.
> The cadets were safe, professional and dedicated. However, at 9:00 pm last
> night, I was advised that, based on a ruling from the CAP JAG office,
> headquarters will not approve the operation and has withdrawn the authority
> for cadets to participate in ceremonies using firearms. The cadets will be
> disappointed.
> The report did state that the CAP command did think this was worthy proposal
> and was in keeping with the policy of CAP cadet public service at special
> ceremonies. It was suggested that the matter be placed on CAP headquarters
> agenda for further consideration. The time available this year is not
> enough for policy review.
> I am returning rifles but will finish and retain the BFA kit and transit
> chest for future use. The kit has both red and yellow BFA's and special
> magazines and support supplies. All paperwork has been forwarded to the CAP
> and a report will be available to the club at the next meeting.
> Sincerely,
> s/James T. York

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Call for help on a request from Jim York with the Alaska Machine Gun Association. Does anyone in this group have any AR-15s?

Please contact Jim directly if you can help.

Thank you,


Email #1

> Greetings to all members!
> The CAP honor guard is going forward with a response from CAP
> headquarters expected by Friday. Final go or no-go notice to members will
> be made by Monday evening.
> The CAP has been asked by the State of Alaska to take over honor
> guard duties at the Wasilla Veteran's Wall this Memorial day. The VFW can
> no longer provide a seven man rifle team much less fire the final salute.
> All support equipment is on hand and in place. However, only two of
> seven AR-15 rifles have been made available. The following procedures
> will be in place:
> 1. AR-15's without magazines will be transported to the site by a
> representative of the Club.
> 2. Rifles will be secured in special military-like wooden chest made to
> secure and protect seven rifles in proper internal padded racks. NO loose
> rifles on back seats.
> 3. Rifles will be secured in a Suburban equipped with a pager alarm system
> and the Club escort will be CCW.
> 4. Rifles will be without magazines––special BFA only magazines will be
> provided by command authority. They do not accept ball cartridges by reason
> of internal blocks and are identified by special dark blue color.
> 5. Rifles will have military BFA's installed and will be fired only with
> M200 USGI blank cartridges. NO Hollywood blanks or live ball ammo.
> 6. Rifles will not be out of sight and supervision of Club representatives.
> 7. Rifles will be issues to the honor guard at the event site.
> 8. Rifles will not be handled by CAP personnel who have not been certified
> by written test and practical examination by Club representatives.
> 9. Rifles will not be subject to any drill that requires the rifle to be
> tossed or used to strike the ground. Only parade rest is authorized.
> 10. Rifles will be returned to the transit chest immediately after the squad
> marches off the field.
> 11. No rifles will be disassembled or cleaned except by their owners.
> 12. Rifles will be returned to their owners immediately at the conclusion of
> ceremonies. At no time will the rifles be retained or other be under the
> control of the CAP or other parties.
> If these conditions and controls are acceptable, the loan of a rifle for
> Memorial Day would be much appreciated. Full size rifles would be preferred
> but carbines M4 clones would be just fine. A standard G.I. flash suppressor
> is a must so the G.I. BFA will fit. Clean and lubricate as you see fit.
> I will pick up as requested. Please E-mail jtiriey@mtaonline.net. If CAP
> headquarters does not approve, we will stand down unless another unit steps
> up. The 7 rifle chest and the BFA kit will remain available to the Club for
> sponsoring future events.
> Sincerely,
> James T. York

Email #2

> Hello,
> The basic training for the 10 honor guard Cadets is on for Wednesday,
> November 4th at 4:00 PM to 6:00PM. The Cadets and CAP leadership will meet
> at the CAP hangar at Birchwood airport for instruction in BFA operations and
> then move to the range for BFA familarization with live blank fire. Members
> who wish to assist or help with instruction are welcome. They may bring
> their rifle/carbines and maintain control of them and can then bring them to
> the Wall by 10:00AM Wednesday, November 11th. Yes, the organizers have
> planned the salute for 11:00AM to honor the original cease fire time for the
> Armistice.
> I now have three rifles and need some help in getting more. I need to
> convince the membership that these rifles remain in club control and are not
> "loaned" to anybody, especially the CAP. M200 blanks are safe and easy on
> the rifles and are non-corrosive, unlike high powered "Hollywood" blanks. I
> would think there would be enough rifles withing the club. However, I am
> ready to consider approaching other clubs or organizations. Carbines are
> just fine––they are all military and the war photos seem show that no two
> are alike due to equipment mods.
> I have "red" BFA's on hand and ordered "yellow" BFA's. I am modifying seven
> magazines and now have considerable time and money invested in
> this project. All BFA's are G.I. issue––not chicom copies. I really
> need to get the rifles on line. If people want to bring theirs directly to
> the Wall, an extra would be a good idea as someone might not be able to make
> it at the last moment. That is why I want to have all the rifles in the
> chest by this next weekend.
> Please circulate this memo––Jim
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 2:56:20 PM EST
I'm not a member but I could loan him my lower, my upper is dedicated 22LR... my neighbor is a AMGA member
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:33:06 PM EST
What configuration are they looking for? M4gery or rifle type? I'm assuming no bling?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 5:25:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By tyrex13:
What configuration are they looking for? M4gery or rifle type? I'm assuming no bling?

Full size rifles would be preferred but carbines M4 clones would be just fine. A standard G.I. flash suppressor is a must so the G.I. BFA will fit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 9:05:11 PM EST
I'm a little confused. Would I be taking my rifle to the CAP guys in Wasilla on Nov 11, or would it be collected by someone beforehand?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:01:05 AM EST
Sorry for the delay in my response. I appreciate you guys helping out. Please contact Jim at the following address if you might be able to help.


I believe you could either loan your gun to Jim (security is planned as outlined in the original email) or you could take it to the wall on the day of the event. While I'm not involved in running this event I do know Jim personally and can definitely vouch for him. If I had an AR-15 it would already be in his posession. He's a stand-up guy with a long history as a LEO.

Thank you,

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