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Posted: 1/4/2006 3:55:53 PM EDT

This has more than likely been covered already, but I can't find it.

I was exiting Az C's south and noticed a sign that referenced a NRS stating that firearms are not allowed on the premisis (I'll try to get the NRS number later). Does this pertain to CCW? I recall from the CCW class that they can ask you to leave (and you should) should they discover you violate their rules, but can they call the cops outright without the warning?

Posted: 1/4/2006 4:00:17 PM EDT

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This has more than likely been covered already, but I can't find it.

I was exiting Az C's south and noticed a sign that referenced a NRS stating that firearms are not allowed on the premisis (I'll try to get the NRS number later). Does this pertain to CCW? I recall from the CCW class that they can ask you to leave (and you should) should they discover you violate their rules, but can they call the cops outright without the warning?

Probably NRS 207.200. They can prohibit whatever they like under this statute, but they have to notify you first, and give you qn opportunity to comply.

Posted: 1/4/2006 5:02:29 PM EDT

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That is not true......

If the words no trespassing are posted in the bright orange or posts are painted orange, that meets the requirements. They need not provide you the warning. If they wanted to be anal, they are basically saying armed people aren't welcome. So, you would be trespassing once you enter.

The warning dealt with the previous statute which has been changed.

There is a city and county ordinance which is a lil' different than the NRS.

Posted: 1/4/2006 7:18:57 PM EDT

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It was NRS 207.200. The sign is posted as you exit (you cannot see it unless you do a 180 as you enter). Sign or post (door column) is not fluorescent orange paint.

Posted: 1/4/2006 9:21:20 PM EDT

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Main Street Station just put up the "No Firearms" signs with the red cross through the picture of a gun. I'm gonna talk with security about it in the next couple weeks. Hopefully I can get them to add "Unless properly permitted".

Posted: 1/4/2006 10:21:29 PM EDT

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Yeah I noticed that pulling into the parking garage. What they don't know won't hurt them.

Posted: 1/5/2006 4:50:08 AM EDT

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That is not true......

There is a city and county ordinance which is a lil' different than the NRS.

Kindly point those out for us...

Posted: 1/5/2006 5:04:33 AM EDT

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That is not true......

If the words no trespassing are posted in the bright orange or posts are painted orange, that meets the requirements. They need not provide you the warning. If they wanted to be anal, they are basically saying armed people aren't welcome. So, you would be trespassing once you enter.

The warning dealt with the previous statute which has been changed.

There is a city and county ordinance which is a lil' different than the NRS.

OK let's look at the statute:

NRS 207.200 Unlawful trespass upon land; warning against trespassing.

1. Any person who, under circumstances not amounting to a burglary:

(a) Goes upon the land or into any building of another with intent to vex or annoy the owner or occupant thereof, or to commit any unlawful act; or

(b) Willfully goes or remains upon any land or in any building after having been warned by the owner or occupant thereof not to trespass,

Ê is guilty of a misdemeanor. The meaning of this subsection is not limited by subsections 2 and 4.

2. A sufficient warning against trespassing, within the meaning of this section, is given by either of the following methods:

(a) Painting, at intervals of not more than 200 feet on each side of the land, upon or near the boundary, a post, structure or natural object with not less than 50 square inches of fluorescent orange paint or, if the post is a metal fence post, painting the entire post with such paint.

(b) Fencing the area.

3. It is prima facie evidence of trespass for any person to be found on private or public property which is posted or fenced as provided in subsection 2 without lawful business with the owner or occupant of the property.

4. An entryman on land under the laws of the United States is an owner within the meaning of this section.

5. As used in this section, “fence” means a barrier sufficient to indicate an intent to restrict the area to human ingress, including, but not limited to, a wall, hedge or chain link or wire mesh fence.

[1911 C&P § 500; RL § 6765; NCL § 10447]—(NRS A 1969, 96; 1975, 1169; 1987, 2086; 1989, 997)

If you are not there with "intent to vex or annoy the owner or occupant thereof, or to commit any unlawful act" then you are not trespassing. CCW with a permit is a lawful act, and carry in a casino is not prohibited by state or municipal law unless you are loitering.

You also have to "willfully go or remain upon any land or in any building after having been warned by the owner or occupant thereof not to trespass". If the sign is not prominently posted, or is not posted at every available entrance, you have not necessarily been "warned". Once verbally warned, you've got no excuse.

The statute has not changed since 1989, so show me what you're talking about.

Posted: 1/5/2006 7:57:52 AM EDT

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........it's been noted that the "no firearms" signs were posted at valet and parking garage, yet I noticed NONE at the doorways.......seems non-driving pedestrians would NOT be aware of any such announcement. I just don't understand that logic AT ALL!!!!!!!!

Posted: 1/5/2006 11:54:20 AM EDT

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Yeah I noticed that pulling into the parking garage. What they don't know won't hurt them.

That's why it's concealed carry, and not open carry.

Posted: 1/5/2006 1:47:15 PM EDT

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........it's been noted that the "no firearms" signs were posted at valet and parking garage, yet I noticed NONE at the doorways.......seems non-driving pedestrians would NOT be aware of any such announcement. I just don't understand that logic AT ALL!!!!!!!!

Your right about that. I didn't see any on the doors going in. I'm still gonna talk to management there.

Posted: 1/5/2006 2:01:12 PM EDT

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........it's been noted that the "no firearms" signs were posted at valet and parking garage, yet I noticed NONE at the doorways.......seems non-driving pedestrians would NOT be aware of any such announcement. I just don't understand that logic AT ALL!!!!!!!!

Your right about that. I didn't see any on the doors going in. I'm still gonna talk to management there.

.........May be best just to let "sleeping dogs lie".......seems unenforceable as is.

Posted: 1/5/2006 2:10:00 PM EDT

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.........May be best just to let "sleeping dogs lie".......seems unenforceable as is.

... were my thoughts, exactly.

Unless, of course, he wants to bring it to their attention on principle.

Wasn't is ishoot2live who re-educated the Wal-Marts on this matter?

Posted: 1/5/2006 3:52:40 PM EDT

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Wasn't is ishoot2live who re-educated the Wal-Marts on this matter?

Yes.

Posted: 1/5/2006 6:10:03 PM EDT

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I am in Mesa, AZ right now.

I can't believe how gun "friendly" this community is. I was at the supermarket earlier today carrying full open (I can carry CCW with my Nevada permit but I chose open just to see the attitude). Not one person gave me a "wild" look, I guess it really is an accepted practice here. Plus the law is written to allow it (which is pretty cool).

It reminds me of how Vegas used to be 30 years ago. Pretty sad that such a pro-gun community (Vegas) is going the way of political correctness.

I am staying with an "insanely" pro-gun family, and that in itself makes it worth the trip.

I feel very comfortable here.

Anyway, just thought I would report.

Joe

PS: I do miss Vegas though....

Posted: 1/5/2006 7:11:38 PM EDT

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I am in Mesa, AZ right now.

I can't believe how gun "friendly" this community is. I was at the supermarket earlier today carrying full open (I can carry CCW with my Nevada permit but I chose open just to see the attitude). Not one person gave me a "wild" look, I guess it really is an accepted practice here. Plus the law is written to allow it (which is pretty cool).

It reminds me of how Vegas used to be 30 years ago. Pretty sad that such a pro-gun community (Vegas) is going the way of political correctness.

I am staying with an "insanely" pro-gun family, and that in itself makes it worth the trip.

I feel very comfortable here.

Anyway, just thought I would report.

Joe

PS: I do miss Vegas though....

I've open carried in banks in Phoenix and nobody looked.

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