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Posted: 1/3/2006 5:08:53 AM EDT

I am looking into a varminter upper to put on one of the lowers that I am getting from JKiser. I have been looking at an RRA 24" 1/8 upper. I was looking at a Model 1

varminter upper with the same specs. I would like a 24" to get the highest velocity out of MK262 loads.

There are a lot of you out there that know way more than I do, so any info or comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

Posted: 1/3/2006 6:22:58 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
I am looking into a varminter upper to put on one of the lowers that I am getting from JKiser. I have been looking at an RRA 24" 1/8 upper. I was looking at a Model 1 varminter upper with the same specs. I would like a 24" to get the highest velocity out of MK262 loads.

There are a lot of you out there that know way more than I do, so any info or comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

I would stick with the RRA or a Stag. I personally wouldnt get one of the Model 1.

Posted: 1/3/2006 6:41:43 AM EDT

[#2]

I would also stay away from the Model 1 uppers, I have a Bushmaster V-Match 24" which I've enjoyed very much from the little I've shot it. I'd also consider the RRA, I have a 20 inch from RRA with a Wilson HB and its excellent. However I'm selling both of them because I simply don't need the 24" and I can't suppress the 20".
I haven't had any experience with the Stag units.

Posted: 1/3/2006 9:12:23 AM EDT

[#3]

I would like a 24" to get the highest velocity out of MK262 loads.

How far are you planning on shooting this rifle? KBlagg, Kletz and Bookhound can all verify I had no problems hitting steel at 650yds. with my 18" SPR and my 77grn loads.
I agree in that I'd stay away from Model1. I have read of a number of folks who have the upper and say its accurate as hell. I have also read of a number of folks who have had a problem with Model1 stuff. I'd stick with RRA as there stuff is known to be good to go.

Posted: 1/3/2006 9:27:11 AM EDT

[#4]

I would like something that is capable of moa or better groups out to 600 yards. In reality, I will use it to shoot squirrels and crows out to 350 yards. I have done some more reading, and I could go with a 20" upper instead of 24. It would be lighter also.

Posted: 1/3/2006 9:34:50 AM EDT

[#5]

I'd opt for something like a RRA NM barrel. It's 20", heavy under the handgaurds, has a 1:8 twist is still accurate as hell. Since it is a NM barrel (not only in name but because they are frequently used), it should have no problems getting 1MOA or better at 600yds.
The slightly thinner contour will cut back the weight for slinging it around for squirrels and crows.

Posted: 1/3/2006 9:54:45 AM EDT

[#6]

and I can't suppress the 20"

Why not?

Re: new upper
Why don't you just get together with one of the guys on here that has the tools (or if you are in the NW corner of the state I will help you do it) and just build the upper you want? Contact Compass Lake Engineering and get one of their barrels, get a RRA, CMT, Stag upper with a RRA bolt /carrier (or get a matched bolt from CLE with your barrel). This way you will get a ~1/2 MOA upper with all of the options YOU want on it. When it comes down to it you will be MUCH happier with a 1/2MOA rifle than you will with a 1MOA rifle.

Posted: 1/3/2006 2:31:13 PM EDT

[#7]

I agree with the Bushmaster or RRA . I don't have a RRA NM upperbarrel but a entry upper .It is of very good quality. But I do own a BushMaster CMP ( DMC model ) . Full blown Match rifle with Jewel trigger. It is a tack driver. And I have been mostly shooting junk ammo through it. Need to get some cheap as I can get but quality ammo. Any suggestion from you guys ? Im on a budget. Damn tactial rifle is draining me .. LOL... WarDawg

Posted: 1/3/2006 4:28:10 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
I would like a 24" to get the highest velocity out of MK262 loads.

How far are you planning on shooting this rifle? KBlagg, Kletz and Bookhound can all verify I had no problems hitting steel at 650yds. with my 18" SPR and my 77grn loads.
I agree in that I'd stay away from Model1. I have read of a number of folks who have the upper and say its accurate as hell. I have also read of a number of folks who have had a problem with Model1 stuff. I'd stick with RRA as there stuff is known to be good to go.

Yep. Saw him do it. Very impressive.

I've got a RRA Varmint upper I slapped on a lower I built with RRA parts and a Jewell trigger. First day shooting it zzxx99 helped me make final scope adjustments. Next thing we were hitting spent .308 cases at 100-yards. With surplus IMI M855 ammo. This was the first shot:

And I don't shoot quite like Mr Lawman734 does.

Posted: 1/3/2006 5:07:43 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I would like a 24" to get the highest velocity out of MK262 loads.

How far are you planning on shooting this rifle? KBlagg, Kletz and Bookhound can all verify I had no problems hitting steel at 650yds. with my 18" SPR and my 77grn loads.
I agree in that I'd stay away from Model1. I have read of a number of folks who have the upper and say its accurate as hell. I have also read of a number of folks who have had a problem with Model1 stuff. I'd stick with RRA as there stuff is known to be good to go.

Yeah, but he was shooting from the 600yd line!

J/K Lawman!

Posted: 1/3/2006 5:38:49 PM EDT

[#10]

Bookhound,

I thought I saw a picture of you shooting a varminter at that precision shoot a month or two ago. What barrel length is your upper?

Posted: 1/4/2006 3:51:37 AM EDT

[#11]

Mine is a 20" SS 1:8 twist with a Wylde chamber. Kletz, Lawman734 and zzxx99 have been helping me make some better optics choices and are also helping me understand how to make adjustments for longer ranges. It is a learning experience for sure.

The stock RRA Varminter upper is, in my experience, a very accurate upper. You are welcome to try mine sometime.

Posted: 1/4/2006 4:47:50 AM EDT

[#12]

You are welcome to try mine sometime.

Thanks for the offer. I am about to go back to school, but I would love to shoot some weekend that I am home.

Thanks for all of the advice everyone, it is appreciated.

Chris

Posted: 1/4/2006 10:55:32 AM EDT

[#13]

No problem. You live up by me (when not in school), right?

Best of luck in school to you.

Mark

Posted: 1/4/2006 11:10:27 AM EDT

[#14]

Thanks. I live in Hoschton, less than a mile from West Jackson Middle School. If all goes well, this will be my last semester.

Posted: 1/4/2006 12:00:20 PM EDT

[#15]

I thought so. Let me know next time you are back in town and we can go try out a few different toys.

Posted: 1/4/2006 12:05:06 PM EDT

[#16]

You got it!!!

Posted: 1/5/2006 3:48:00 PM EDT

[#17]

I'd like to make it out to GunSite Hills with you guys sometime. Sounds like there is some local LR shooting knowledge that I would very much like to learn from.

I have a 20" HBAR upper w/ a 1:7" barrel sporting a Trijicon TA01 that I am yet to shoot.

I also have a 20" Remington PSS in .308 with a Leupold Mk4 3.5-10X30 w/ a Mil-Dot recticle. I haven't shot it since the scope swap. I would like to re-zero it.

The SPR Mk12 Mod0 upper that the Leupold above came from is still sitting here, but it is (somewhat) sold.

That freed up a Leupold 4.5-14X50 LR that was on the Remy 700 before (just in case anyone needs one

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