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Posted: 9/20/2004 6:33:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 7:47:32 PM EST by Moof]
www.governor.ca.gov

(Sorry, direct links to text of bills is ~ 1K characters long.)
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 6:48:07 PM EST
and this means?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 6:54:23 PM EST
Can you briefly explain what AB2431 and SB1142 are?



From what I can find, It looks like the firearm storage bill and the ammo registration bill has been vetoed by the governor, thank god.

From office of the governor website:

Bills vetoed:

SB 1140 by Senator Jack Scott (D-Altadena) - Firearms: minors. Click here for veto message.

SB 1152 by Senator Jack Scott (D-Altadena) - Ammunition. Click here for veto message.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:11:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:14:12 PM EST
Thank goodness. I would have been pissed if SB1142 was not vetoed.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:22:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By MisterFloppy:
AB2431:
www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_2401-2450/ab_2431_bill_20040826_enrolled.html





anyone have a plain english translation?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:46:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

Originally Posted By MisterFloppy:
AB2431:
www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_2401-2450/ab_2431_bill_20040826_enrolled.html





anyone have a plain english translation?



I gave it a half hour of my time and still don't know if I've got it right. It sounds like CA residents will now be required to undergo an additional background check, and pay an additional administration fee, before an LEA/court will release their stolen guns back into their possession. But there are so many exceptions, qualifications and contingencies listed that the whole thing turns to mush before the eyes after the first couple pages.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:56:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:26:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 8:33:19 PM EST by MisterFloppy]
I am surprised that Arnold vetoed SB1152, but I am very happy. I'll be damned if im gonna give a thumbprint every time I buy ammo.


www.governor.ca.gov/govsite/pdf/vetoes/SB_1152_veto.pdf
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:38:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

That would be spelled gun owners registration database ... welcome to Illinois comrade.



Um...this may come as a shock to some, but a centralized database of California gun owners is nothing new.

To wit:

1. Several of the most recently passed CA firearm laws (including AB50) make reference to the "Consolidated Firearms Information System." Although this system wasn't put into computer database form until late 1997/early 1998 (see www.cio.com/archive/080199_et.html), similarly-named California-specific gun owner databases (obviously only available in "hard" form, or primitive computer database form, at that time) are referenced in other California gun laws dating back to the mid 1980's.

2. The State of California is happy to supply any California resident with a complete list of all the firearms listed in their name (see caag.state.ca.us/firearms/pubfaqs.htm#26). Obviously they wouldn't be able to do this w/o maintaining said database.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 7:58:49 AM EST
Late Justice.....
(Late Justice is NOT Justice.)
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