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4/20/2005 1:58:26 PM EDT
Yeah, so I'm a little behind the learning curve here.  What does +P mean as far as ammo?  Are there reliability issues?  Accuracy issues?

4/20/2005 2:09:03 PM EDT
[#1]
+P means "additional pressure"

This gives you higher velocity, more felt recoil, and accelerates wear on your pistol.

That is not to say that it "shreds" pistols, however, +P ammo is at the edge of the performance envelope the handguns were designed for.

Accuracy varies just as with regular ammo.
4/20/2005 2:49:27 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
+P means "additional pressure"

This gives you higher velocity, more felt recoil, and accelerates wear on your pistol.

That is not to say that it "shreds" pistols, however, +P ammo is at the edge of the performance envelope the handguns were designed for.

Accuracy varies just as with regular ammo.



+1

and they usually cost more

also, watch out, dont use em in fragile/non-modern firearms as some chamgers cant take the extra pressures
4/20/2005 2:55:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Be careful when you buy ammo marked "+P" especially in 9mm.

Much of the high-pressure 9mm ammo on the market was designed for submachine guns, and as such have harder primers.  You'll find this with surplus ammo, predominately.

What does that mean to you?  Increased probability of a "light strike" FTF.  Not good for carry ammo.  Make sure the +P ammo you use in your handguns was intended for them
4/20/2005 4:00:00 PM EDT
[#4]
I thought +P meant Proof Load.  IMHO, not much point for something that powerful, regular pressure rounds will do the job and +P definitely is harder to hit with, I think +P is better left to experienced shooters who are able to handle loads like that and people who really have a requirement for extra power, such as trying to use a regular non-magnum handgun in a pinch as a defense against wild animals.  Wouldn't be smart to do that deliberately, but if that's all you have, stuff it full with the hottest loads you can shoot.  Otherwise though, not much reason to use extremely hot loads for defense, because recovery speed between shots is essential, you need to be accurate, and you shouldn't expect any one bullet to stop an attacker, no matter the caliber or load, so you should fire more than once as a matter of sound tactics.  If you're going to be double-tapping (like you should be anyways), the last thing you need is more recoil and more shot to shot time needed to recover.  
4/20/2005 4:20:29 PM EDT
[#5]
All non US 9x19s can handle +P, at a minimum. Most US guns can. Everywhere but the US the standard for 9mm is what we call +P.

Subgun stuff is different. Aside from the pressure, it also has hard primers.
4/20/2005 4:21:04 PM EDT
[#6]
+P does not mean "Proof Load", AFAIK

To the originall question, depends on the caliber somewhat, right?

Example:  For 40S&W, there is no +P load because its allready at max pressure (40S&W is a +P load, in a sense)  For 9mm, +P pressure is the same spec as NATO pressure.  9mm +P+ is "undefined" by SAMMI.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  I went to SAMMI's website to confirm and didn't find anything helpful.
4/20/2005 4:24:35 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
+P does not mean "Proof Load", AFAIK

To the originall question, depends on the caliber somewhat, right?

Example:  For 40S&W, there is no +P load because its allready at max pressure (40S&W is a +P load, in a sense)  For 9mm, +P pressure is the same spec as NATO pressure.  9mm +P+ is "undefined" by SAMMI.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  I went to SAMMI's website to confirm and didn't find anything helpful.



Actually, SAAMI says NATO spec 9mm is an "unsafe ammunition combination"
4/20/2005 4:24:36 PM EDT
[#8]
You are correct.