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Posted: 2/20/2007 5:52:58 PM EST
I have decided to get my first 1911. I want a railed frame, so the 2 pistols that come to mind are the SA MC Operator and the Kimber Warrior. Are there any advantages of one over the other? Do they both have to same kind of safeties and parts? I am pretty new to 1911's, and I am feeling kind of overwhelmed.

I just want someone to compare the 2 pistols to each other. I have shot several Kimbers but never a Springfield. I liked the Kimbers a lot, but have heard good things about the SA's. Any words of wisdom or pointers here?
Link Posted: 2/20/2007 6:26:50 PM EST
Springfield MC Operator
Link Posted: 2/20/2007 7:06:32 PM EST
SA MC Operator. I had a Kimber once...
Link Posted: 2/20/2007 7:21:45 PM EST
By default, I say SA, with a caveat: I've never tried the MC Operator, but my understanding is that it's a Loaded with a rail. I have a Loaded, and a Loaded Operator, so if that is true, I'd go with the MC Op.

Link Posted: 2/20/2007 7:33:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/21/2007 8:37:49 PM EST
Any other features one has vs. the other as far as manufacturing or safeties?
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:17:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Springfield MC Operator


+1.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:48:36 PM EST
Never shot a Kimber,but my brand new MC operator is awsome.
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 2:51:33 PM EST
Never shot a kimber, but I have shot an operator, and HOLY SMOKES was that nice & accurate. Made me feel inadequate...
Link Posted: 2/22/2007 9:39:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Frankensteineken:
Any other features one has vs. the other as far as manufacturing or safeties?

Well, speaking of safeties...
My Kimber's safety lever broke on me first time out, but my Springfield's safety lever is still going strong.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 1:20:17 AM EST
I love my Warrior
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 3:27:30 AM EST
If the posts to date don't convince you, then Springfield's customer service (first-rate quality, quick turn-around, and they reimburse the first $50 to ship your firearm to them) should convince you.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 11:44:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2007 11:49:35 AM EST by REKCUT]
I picked up a MC operator for $850 new and it is awesome. It has a lot of features from the factory. Night sights, ambi safety, front cocking serr., ect. The only thing I didnt like were the grips and that was an easy fix. Frame to slide to barrel fit was all superb. And on top of all that this thing is very accurate and feeds all kinds of ammo. Kimber is a fine gun but this Springfield is excellent as well. In my search for a railed 1911 the thing that really sold me on the MC operator was the design of the light rail.
I think the Springfields rail is more attractive and the Kimbers is more bulky.
Here are a couple of pics, I like the way the end of the rail is cut at a 45 degree angle.
Here is one of my babies.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/AJTUCKER/IMG_0889.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/AJTUCKER/IMG_0887.jpg
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 5:14:41 PM EST
Thanks for all the replies. I was leaning towards the Operator to begin with, and I think I am convinced now.
Link Posted: 2/23/2007 5:49:35 PM EST
If you act quick... You could get a TRP Operator with a Full Length Rail. Will most likely be the last time they are made.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 1:44:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pstores:
If you act quick... You could get a TRP Operator with a Full Length Rail. Will most likely be the last time they are made.



I dont see an advantage to a full length rail.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 2:24:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By Pstores:
If you act quick... You could get a TRP Operator with a Full Length Rail. Will most likely be the last time they are made.



I dont see an advantage to a full length rail.


+1 and good luck finding a holster
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 2:34:18 PM EST
I had the TRP operator and traded it for a Warrior. I am much happier with the warrior.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 10:59:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By WilsonCQB1911:
I love my Warrior


+1. At the end of the day you are asking guys for their personal preference, and thats mine.

YMMV.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 9:27:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 9:28:52 AM EST by Pstores]

Originally Posted By Trumpet:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By Pstores:
If you act quick... You could get a TRP Operator with a Full Length Rail. Will most likely be the last time they are made.



I dont see an advantage to a full length rail.


+1 and good luck finding a holster



Having something that will not be made and is not seen as much. Adds alittle wieght and keeps muzzle down a tad more. Faster follow up shots.

Holsters are easy to find a good custom one. I don't care for to many off the shelf holster anyway. For the price custom holsters made for your gun.... Is the only way to go. JMO

Reliablity, and customer service will always go to SA. Just my experience.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 10:44:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Trumpet:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By Pstores:
If you act quick... You could get a TRP Operator with a Full Length Rail. Will most likely be the last time they are made.



I dont see an advantage to a full length rail.


+1 and good luck finding a holster


I didn't have a problem finding one. Maybe it's you.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 10:48:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 10:49:22 AM EST by a38337]
Safariland 560

Bladetech


Link Posted: 2/25/2007 3:51:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 3:54:35 PM EST by Pstores]
UMM Been to 4 Gun Shows, none. I saw 1 on GB. And haven't seen any in any of the Twin Cities Gun Shops. And with SA being kind enough to make one last run of them. I ordered mine. You were talking about the TRP Operator with a Full length Rail right. PC9105lp I think is the part number. Dealer cost of $1345.00.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 6:19:57 PM EST
Another vote for the Warrior.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 6:30:24 PM EST
IBTP

i say: BOTH!
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:42:10 AM EST
+1 on the Warrior. I don't know where all the Kimber bashing comes from, but mine has been great! I've read just as many SA problem threads as Kimber problem threads. Both companies have QC issues from time to time.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 10:26:55 AM EST
Held em both and the Warrior really didn't do it for me. That and Springers lifetime warranty set it apart for me. +1 Operator
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 9:13:48 PM EST
KIMBER!

My Kimber with a drop in ed brown barrel bushing managed a 1.3 inch group in a ransom rest at 50 yards with federal gold match 185's.

Plus, I like my American parts
Link Posted: 2/27/2007 2:52:42 PM EST

My ever changing MC Operator.

Link Posted: 2/27/2007 4:43:08 PM EST
Warrior, my favorite 1911!



Link Posted: 2/27/2007 5:24:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By effinNewGuy:
My ever changing MC Operator.

i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/effinNewGuy/Guns/20070116_1911s_9_2.jpg


Great hammer, what kind is it?

I have a similar one done by Kings

Scott
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