The new Osight SE (Page 2 of 4)
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: They are a Chinese company with headquarters in China that employs Chinese citizens. China does some pretty quirky things, and that comes through in a lot of what Olight does. David Chow is running Osight headquarters in Arizona, where their design studio is. I've known David for over 20 years; we were both very active on CandlePowerForums back in the day, and I used to test flashlight output and runtime in my integrating sphere for him. He used to own Fenix Store, and the lighting brand FourSevens (which is how he developed a relationship with Olight, where he became chairman of the board) before he sold it to Prometheus lights. He is a very smart, driven man and he will push Osight forward. I trust him and I trust his vision and attention to detail. I know this is tech and not GD, so I'm trying to keep it civil. But this is like GBRS and Sig. |
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Osight will never have a reputation that Holosun has and that's 100% based on history of Olight and their shitty past. They could be churning out top of the line optics and weaponlights and they'll still have people that are suspicious of them. Just like all the glowing reviews of the new optic, after they gave away a bunch of them. Sketchy bullshit, just like when a gun company sends out free guns. BUT, a closed emitter $159 optic is great, if it lasts. But I'm not trusting a guntoober review. Even if they have never received a free item, they might say it's great, hoping they'll get free shit. So it's up to you guys. |
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Originally Posted By RUT: >>a closed emitter $159 optic is great<< And for that price I gave it a shot. Should arrive today. If I were looking and had the money, I probably would have to. The fact that it has a replaceable battery instead of that recharging system is going to be a plus to most people. Somewhat related to the SCS, people like the SCS but don't like the fact that it does not have a replaceable power system. |
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I don't own a single O-light brand product, have a few holosuns. Looking for a new RMSC footprint optic and will likely get the Osight SE based on the research I've done so far. It's amazing how some people can see the future so clearly, but can't see what's right in front of them.  I would say the argument that Osight won't be successful because of brand image issues is a skewed perspective. The percentage of people that perceive Olight negatively is a smaller subset than you think. From interacting with people, the casual to moderate enthusiast buyer is completely unaware of any negative feelings towards olight. And they make up probably 90% of the market. It's effectively a non issue and nowhere in the realm of brand name issues that someone like Sig Sauer is currently having. So if they did truly knock this out of the park and reliability issues don't present, this absolutely will put quite a dent in the closed emitter market. And you will know this for sure when you see others dropping prices to compete. |
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Originally Posted By garn: I don't own a single O-light brand product, have a few holosuns. Looking for a new RMSC footprint optic and will likely get the Osight SE based on the research I've done so far. It's amazing how some people can see the future so clearly, but can't see what's right in front of them. I would say the argument that Osight won't be successful because of brand image issues is a skewed perspective. The percentage of people that perceive Olight negatively is a smaller subset than you think. From interacting with people, the casual to moderate enthusiast buyer is completely unaware of any negative feelings towards olight. And they make up probably 90% of the market. It's effectively a non issue and nowhere in the realm of brand name issues that someone like Sig Sauer is currently having. So if they did truly knock this out of the park and reliability issues don't present, this absolutely will put quite a dent in the closed emitter market. And you will know this for sure when you see others dropping prices to compete. I agree. I also think its possible that some of the best made products came from last ditch efforts by companies to try and stay afloat. |
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Originally Posted By garn: I don't own a single O-light brand product, have a few holosuns. Looking for a new RMSC footprint optic and will likely get the Osight SE based on the research I've done so far. It's amazing how some people can see the future so clearly, but can't see what's right in front of them. I would say the argument that Osight won't be successful because of brand image issues is a skewed perspective. The percentage of people that perceive Olight negatively is a smaller subset than you think. From interacting with people, the casual to moderate enthusiast buyer is completely unaware of any negative feelings towards olight. And they make up probably 90% of the market. It's effectively a non issue and nowhere in the realm of brand name issues that someone like Sig Sauer is currently having. So if they did truly knock this out of the park and reliability issues don't present, this absolutely will put quite a dent in the closed emitter market. And you will know this for sure when you see others dropping prices to compete. Olight is one of the largest flashlight manufacturers in the world, which makes it easier to find people who hate it for any number of reasons. The reality is that they stand behind their products with a lifetime warranty and fantastic customer service. They even have a group of advisors that they routinely ask product design questions and send out test products to; I am one of those people, and I am not compensated in any way for it so I can be unbiased. I have even flat out told them that some of the products they are developing are dumb and won't sell, or that they are muddying the waters by building too many similar products, trying to capture market share. This input is helping them to develop better products, and they have some very exciting stuff on the horizon. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: They even have a group of advisors that they routinely ask product design questions and send out test products to; I am one of those people, and I am not compensated in any way for it so I can be unbiased. They give you free shit, you are absolutely compensated. It's one of the reasons there wasn't a single review with anything negative about the new optic. Because they sent out hundreds of these damn things for free to guntubers. So people have to buy them for themselves to find out if they're actually a decent product or if they're going to shit the bed quickly. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: They give you free shit, you are absolutely compensated. It's one of the reasons there wasn't a single review with anything negative about the new optic. Because they sent out hundreds of these damn things for free to guntubers. So people have to buy them for themselves to find out if they're actually a decent product or if they're going to shit the bed quickly. Lmfao. I’m glad as much as we disagree that there are at least some things we can both agree on. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: They give you free shit, you are absolutely compensated. It's one of the reasons there wasn't a single review with anything negative about the new optic. Because they sent out hundreds of these damn things for free to guntubers. So people have to buy them for themselves to find out if they're actually a decent product or if they're going to shit the bed quickly. Lol. I bought both of mine. I'm thinking of buying 2 of the SE models. I'm going to put one on a shotgun and see how it handles some hate. But so far I'm very happy with my 2. I can get 2 SE's for the price of 1 EPS Carry. Both made in Chyna. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: They give you free shit, you are absolutely compensated. It's one of the reasons there wasn't a single review with anything negative about the new optic. Because they sent out hundreds of these damn things for free to guntubers. So people have to buy them for themselves to find out if they're actually a decent product or if they're going to shit the bed quickly. Most of it isn't free; I have had to buy at least 3 of the sights I have been testing, albeit at a 50% discount. That includes my early release sample of the Osight SE. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Most of it isn't free; I have had to buy at least 3 of the sights I have been testing, albeit at a 50% discount. That includes my early release sample of the Osight SE. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Most of it isn't free; I have had to buy at least 3 of the sights I have been testing, albeit at a 50% discount. That includes my early release sample of the Osight SE. Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Originally Posted By DavidY: They give you free shit, you are absolutely compensated. It's one of the reasons there wasn't a single review with anything negative about the new optic. Because they sent out hundreds of these damn things for free to guntubers. So people have to buy them for themselves to find out if they're actually a decent product or if they're going to shit the bed quickly. Most of it isn't free; I have had to buy at least 3 of the sights I have been testing, albeit at a 50% discount. That includes my early release sample of the Osight SE. Getting huge discounts for speaking favorably about a product IS GETTING COMPENSATED. This is some of the bullshit people hated about Olight from years ago and why they're not a trustworthy company. |
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Originally Posted By Spydermonkey: What color tier are you? You have to be in the yellow diamond or higher to get 50% off something like an optic. Higher than that to get free pre-release trial products unless you do guntuber reviews Blue, just below red. My free test products have nothing to do with my tier level; I am part of a small group of users that helps them with design ideas and beta testing of some of their optics. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: Getting huge discounts for speaking favorably about a product IS GETTING COMPENSATED. This is some of the bullshit people hated about Olight from years ago and why they're not a trustworthy company. I'm not required to speak about them at all. In fact, I have signed an NDA that says I won't talk about it at all until it has been released. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Blue, just below red. My free test products have nothing to do with my tier level; I am part of a small group of users that helps them with design ideas and beta testing of some of their optics. Crazy ETA: Dont forget to log in every day for the next 29 days so you can get your free towel |
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These are his benefits from his "loyalty tier" Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Spydermonkey: Ok, so now I know how deep your addiction is. Just so others reading this can understand it, you have to spend $6999.99 in order to reach his blue loyalty tier. Theres some ways to cut corners a few times a year to get double points, but in general this guy has spent thousands of dollars collecting chinese flashlights. I dont even need to know what your collection looks like, I follow a few of their fb pages. Crazy ETA: Dont forget to log in every day for the next 29 days so you can get your free towel Unless he's an unofficial dealer, which would explain the shilling even more. |
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I'm not shilling for anyone. I purchased mine. If you guys want to waste time and money buy something else. I see no reason to attack him when you are hearing from a non youtuber (me) these are good optics for half the cost of Holosun. I love Holosun they make a great product. I own half a dozen Holosun's. But there is no reason to spend money on a EPS Carry when the Osight S and SE exist. The ONLY negative is no button lockout. I'm sure they will address this. It has not been a problem for me. I have two S models. I have had zero problems. Zero! 
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Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: I keep watching videos of this sight and the one where a guy abuses it and it has finish beaten and worn off, kind of won me over. I was onboard with the EPS but I think the Osight SE now has me and my attention. I own a EPS and 2 EPS Carry's. After getting my S models there is no reason to get a Holosun. The only benefit would be button lockout. I'm sure Osight will add that feature. It hasn't been a problem for me. |
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Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: I'm not shilling for anyone. I purchased mine. If you guys want to waste time and money buy something else. I see no reason to attack him when you are hearing from a non youtuber (me) these are good optics for half the cost of Holosun. I love Holosun they make a great product. I own half a dozen Holosun's. But there is no reason to spend money on a EPS Carry when the Osight S and SE exist. The ONLY negative is no button lockout. I'm sure they will address this. It has not been a problem for me. I have two S models. I have had zero problems. Zero! https://i.postimg.cc/mg2Fv5Pf/20250709-125943.jpg Lmao O Light would need to be giving me a lot of free product or cutting some checks to pretend they’re this good. |
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I wish I could get some true feedback on this optic on ARfcom. Reddit seems to be the only place not fighting over it. I think I might give the SE a try. It’s the first pistol dot I’ll be getting. I want to put it on a CZ P09 C Nocturne. What’s the battery life? |
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Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: I wish I could get some true feedback on this optic on ARfcom. Reddit seems to be the only place not fighting over it. I think I might give the SE a try. It’s the first pistol dot I’ll be getting. I want to put it on a CZ P09 C Nocturne. What’s the battery life? From what I'm reading 50k hrs to 70k hrs with dot only. |
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Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: I'm not shilling for anyone. I purchased mine. If you guys want to waste time and money buy something else. I see no reason to attack him when you are hearing from a non youtuber (me) these are good optics for half the cost of Holosun. I love Holosun they make a great product. I own half a dozen Holosun's. But there is no reason to spend money on a EPS Carry when the Osight S and SE exist. The ONLY negative is no button lockout. I'm sure they will address this. It has not been a problem for me. I have two S models. I have had zero problems. Zero! https://i.postimg.cc/mg2Fv5Pf/20250709-125943.jpg I'm not a YouTuber either, despite having a few videos randomly get a ton of views. The video I posted in the original post is David Chow, the head of Osight division talking about his new product. Yes, I have spent a lot of money on Olight stuff, but much of it was during double point months. I am not a dealer, I just give a lot of Olight stuff away as gifts. The I1R 2 Pro is a phenomenal keychain light and every one of my friends and family has one. I also own somewhere near a hundred guns and most of them wear weapon lights, many are from Olight, like the Javelot Tac, Warrior X4, Odin S , PL Pro and PL Turbo. My every day carry gun wears an Osight S and a TLR-7 X Sub. I practice with them often and I have experienced zero failures with my Osights, outside of the charging hood that I modified for my original Osight failing after I cut it to make it clear a rear sight. Many people thought I was shilling for Holosun back in 2015 when I recommended them every time someone asked for red dot recommendations. I still use many Holosun products, at last count I own over 40 of them, but for pistol dots I have almost exclusively switched to Osight and Vector Optics products as they offer more value for my money. Equipping what amounts to an entire armory gets expensive. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: I'm not a YouTuber either, despite having a few videos randomly get a ton of views. The video I posted in the original post is David Chow, the head of Osight division talking about his new product. Yes, I have spent a lot of money on Olight stuff, but much of it was during double point months. I am not a dealer, I just give a lot of Olight stuff away as gifts. The I1R 2 Pro is a phenomenal keychain light and every one of my friends and family has one. I also own somewhere near a hundred guns and most of them wear weapon lights, many are from Olight, like the Javelot Tac, Warrior X4, Odin S , PL Pro and PL Turbo. My every day carry gun wears an Osight S and a TLR-7 X Sub. I practice with them often and I have experienced zero failures with my Osights, outside of the charging hood that I modified for my original Osight failing after I cut it to make it clear a rear sight. Many people thought I was shilling for Holosun back in 2015 when I recommended them every time someone asked for red dot recommendations. I still use many Holosun products, at last count I own over 40 of them, but for pistol dots I have almost exclusively switched to Osight and Vector Optics products as they offer more value for my money. Equipping what amounts to an entire armory gets expensive. Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: I'm not shilling for anyone. I purchased mine. If you guys want to waste time and money buy something else. I see no reason to attack him when you are hearing from a non youtuber (me) these are good optics for half the cost of Holosun. I love Holosun they make a great product. I own half a dozen Holosun's. But there is no reason to spend money on a EPS Carry when the Osight S and SE exist. The ONLY negative is no button lockout. I'm sure they will address this. It has not been a problem for me. I have two S models. I have had zero problems. Zero! https://i.postimg.cc/mg2Fv5Pf/20250709-125943.jpg I'm not a YouTuber either, despite having a few videos randomly get a ton of views. The video I posted in the original post is David Chow, the head of Osight division talking about his new product. Yes, I have spent a lot of money on Olight stuff, but much of it was during double point months. I am not a dealer, I just give a lot of Olight stuff away as gifts. The I1R 2 Pro is a phenomenal keychain light and every one of my friends and family has one. I also own somewhere near a hundred guns and most of them wear weapon lights, many are from Olight, like the Javelot Tac, Warrior X4, Odin S , PL Pro and PL Turbo. My every day carry gun wears an Osight S and a TLR-7 X Sub. I practice with them often and I have experienced zero failures with my Osights, outside of the charging hood that I modified for my original Osight failing after I cut it to make it clear a rear sight. Many people thought I was shilling for Holosun back in 2015 when I recommended them every time someone asked for red dot recommendations. I still use many Holosun products, at last count I own over 40 of them, but for pistol dots I have almost exclusively switched to Osight and Vector Optics products as they offer more value for my money. Equipping what amounts to an entire armory gets expensive. The vector Valor I think it is was one I have been looking at too. |
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Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: From what I'm reading 50k hrs to 70k hrs with dot only. Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: I wish I could get some true feedback on this optic on ARfcom. Reddit seems to be the only place not fighting over it. I think I might give the SE a try. It’s the first pistol dot I’ll be getting. I want to put it on a CZ P09 C Nocturne. What’s the battery life? From what I'm reading 50k hrs to 70k hrs with dot only. Awesome! That is a good amount of battery life. |
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Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: The vector Valor I think it is was one I have been looking at too. Vector is an OEM for a lot of the other brands that you see out there. I used to buy the "Vector Optics Frenzy 1x20x28 6 MOA Red Dot Sight" (which is a Doctor pattern) from Amazon for under $100 when they had a sale (looks like $88 right now, which is the cheapest I have seen it). They have one of the most crisp dots I have ever seen, and I use them as an inexpensive offset on my USPSA competition PCC's in case I smash one into a barrier and break it, then it won't be a big loss. I bought their RMR version "Vector Optics Frenzy 1x22x26 Red Dot Sight" to put on my Glock 26X build and it has a nice auto-wake feature and great window clarity for the money. You can get that one for $120 right now with a deal they have going. I dont like that it has a bottom load battery like an RMR, but for that price I am not going to complain. 
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: I'm not a YouTuber either, despite having a few videos randomly get a ton of views. The video I posted in the original post is David Chow, the head of Osight division talking about his new product. Yes, I have spent a lot of money on Olight stuff, but much of it was during double point months. I am not a dealer, I just give a lot of Olight stuff away as gifts. The I1R 2 Pro is a phenomenal keychain light and every one of my friends and family has one. I also own somewhere near a hundred guns and most of them wear weapon lights, many are from Olight, like the Javelot Tac, Warrior X4, Odin S , PL Pro and PL Turbo. My every day carry gun wears an Osight S and a TLR-7 X Sub. I practice with them often and I have experienced zero failures with my Osights, outside of the charging hood that I modified for my original Osight failing after I cut it to make it clear a rear sight. Many people thought I was shilling for Holosun back in 2015 when I recommended them every time someone asked for red dot recommendations. I still use many Holosun products, at last count I own over 40 of them, but for pistol dots I have almost exclusively switched to Osight and Vector Optics products as they offer more value for my money. Equipping what amounts to an entire armory gets expensive. People get accused of being shills because they post something new. I got on board Holosun early. The value for dollar spent was awesome. Osight is now taking that even further. Ignore the guys who don't have one talking smack. They just don't know. Until they take that leap they won't. |
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Originally Posted By TactiCoolBro: I don’t but anything that says O Light anywhere on it lol. Well, you should be happy to hear that the OSight SE doesn't say "OLight" on it anywhere. Attached File Attached File Attached File I have no idea of the OSight SE is as good as an EPS Carry. So far I am impressed, but it has a lot of use to take before I use it for anything other than a range gun. That said, so far, so good. |
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Originally Posted By Landric: Well, you should be happy to hear that the OSight SE doesn't say "OLight" on it anywhere. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image0__43__jpeg-3605965.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image1__39__jpeg-3605966.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image2__28__jpeg-3605968.JPG I have no idea of the OSight SE is as good as an EPS Carry. So far I am impressed, but it has a lot of use to take before I use it for anything other than a range gun. That said, so far, so good. Originally Posted By Landric: Originally Posted By TactiCoolBro: I don’t but anything that says O Light anywhere on it lol. Well, you should be happy to hear that the OSight SE doesn't say "OLight" on it anywhere. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image0__43__jpeg-3605965.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image1__39__jpeg-3605966.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/image2__28__jpeg-3605968.JPG I have no idea of the OSight SE is as good as an EPS Carry. So far I am impressed, but it has a lot of use to take before I use it for anything other than a range gun. That said, so far, so good. Why not use it as a carry optic? If you use the iron sights you still have a system to sight with. I’m just curious because I have never carried a handgun with an optic on it. This is my first adventure into this world and I think the Osight will be the sight I get. I really want some more real world feedback on the SE. YouTube videos are great but the forums is usually where the truth comes out. |
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For anyone wanting to get the SE, I found(and snagged for myself) a good deal here: Link Then use coupon code OLIGHT20 $143.xx for me, shipped for the SE, Magpul sling swivel, and some tactical pen thing. Even better! |
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Originally Posted By garn: For anyone wanting to get the SE, I found(and snagged for myself) a good deal here: Link Then use coupon code OLIGHT20 $143.xx for me, shipped for the SE, Magpul sling swivel, and some tactical pen thing. Even better! Never heard of that website. I’ll look into it. I know GunDeals has a few places that price too. Heart of Texas has a coupon code. I believe it’s Osights. I am really tempted to try this sight out. I watched a video by Barrel and Hatchet last night about closed emitter optics. An Aimpoint ACRO had issues if fogging up inside. I think the Holosun had the same issue. It was when they went inside from being outside in the Florida heat goii ok not inside to cool temps. I wonder if the Osight SE would have that issue as well. |
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Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: Never heard of that website. I’ll look into it. I know GunDeals has a few places that price too. Heart of Texas has a coupon code. I believe it’s Osights. I am really tempted to try this sight out. I watched a video by Barrel and Hatchet last night about closed emitter optics. An Aimpoint ACRO had issues if fogging up inside. I think the Holosun had the same issue. It was when they went inside from being outside in the Florida heat goii ok not inside to cool temps. I wonder if the Osight SE would have that issue as well. The Aimpoint ACRO is nothing special at all. |
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak: The Aimpoint ACRO is nothing special at all. Originally Posted By chevrofreak: Originally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: Never heard of that website. I’ll look into it. I know GunDeals has a few places that price too. Heart of Texas has a coupon code. I believe it’s Osights. I am really tempted to try this sight out. I watched a video by Barrel and Hatchet last night about closed emitter optics. An Aimpoint ACRO had issues if fogging up inside. I think the Holosun had the same issue. It was when they went inside from being outside in the Florida heat goii ok not inside to cool temps. I wonder if the Osight SE would have that issue as well. The Aimpoint ACRO is nothing special at all. It seems like it’s an issue with a lot enclosed emitter pistol optics from what the video is saying. They did say rifle optics Aimpoint and others had no issues. |
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Well, I bought a Osight SE. The SE's glass and dot sharpness is definitely better than my green Holosun ACSS. And miles better than my green Swampfox Sentinel II. Red dot glass being clearer than both green rds is really saying something about the quality of the SE. We'll see how well it holds up. |
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Originally Posted By Bullet_: Well, I bought a Osight SE. The SE's glass and dot sharpness is definitely better than my green Holosun ACSS. And miles better than my green Swampfox Sentinel II. Red dot glass being clearer than both green rds is really saying something about the quality of the SE. We'll see how well it holds up. The quality is there. Time will tell if they hold up. |
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I bought an Osight Se and mounted it on my CSX E-Series 3.6. Took it to the range and dialed it in. It ran fine and I was impressed by the clarity of the optics. But then I ran the last mag, and the circle got all fuzzy. After I got home, I looked at it more closely and it was drawing the circle like a Spirograph. I tried adjusting it, but it was simply moving the fuzzy circle around. Changing the battery didn't help either. So, I returned it for a refund and will be sticking with the 507K from now on. |
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