Posted: 7/18/2010 7:34:45 AM EDT
| What are these going for used nowadays? |
| You can get a factory new Custom Shop version for around $3K and a year's wait. The auctions seem to want about $16––>$1700 for used TRPs, and $800+ for Mil-Spec and Loaded Operators with the full length rail. The latter are pretty hard to find, but probably represent the best "deal" for the money. |
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Ok......Guess I don't know what the difference is between the TRP and the Loaded Full Railed Operators, can someone clue me in? Thanks, J As you know, the TRP is the top-of-the-line for SAs production 1911s with better fitting, better trigger, better sights, etc etc. I believe the TRP was the last SA model to offer the full length rail, and when most folks refer to the full-length railed Springers, they're probably referring to the TRP. In years past there were also full length railed (Operator) versions of the Mil-Spec, and the Loaded models which had features, fitting, performance (and pricing) appropriate for those models. The only feature they shared with the TRP was the full length rail on the dust cover. There was one recently being shown around on the 1911 forums that someone had found in a pawn shop for $7 or $800. I think I would jump on one for that, but don't have any interest in one for twice that amount. |
| I bought a used full rail TRP Operator off the EE a few months ago. I got the gun, factory box, factory paperwork, 2 factory 8rd mags, 2 CMC 8rd Power mags, 3 CMC 10rd Power mags, a SureFire X200 light, an open top double kydex mag pouch and a BladeTec kydex holster for $1700. I carry the gun 40 hours a week as my primary duty gun and love it. |
Just found a TRP Operator locally for well under 1k, it was used but not abused. Couldn't pass it up, as I had been looking for over a year for this one. They don't come up used often, and when they do you will need to jump on it quick, as others are on the hunt as well. Happy shooting!
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I've got a full rail loaded operator which i bought back around 2002 I think it was ~$800 then (maybe that was out the door though). Good to hear its holding it's value so well!
IIRC there is a TRP and a TRP Pro, or at least there was. The TRP Pro was the super expensive custom shop one that they used to make a big deal about the FBI hostage units using. Not sure what the actual diffrences between the two were, though I recall the Pro coming with 5 mags. |
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Here is my Custom Shop Full Rail Operator... Base price was around $2600 in 2008 when I ordered mine (base is with a bushing barrel for some reason). I made some changes, and mine is in 9mm. MSRP was about $3200, but I paid $2990. (it has 25 LPI front strap checkering, but I like these grips)
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Here is my Custom Shop Full Rail Operator... Base price was around $2600 in 2008 when I ordered mine (base is with a bushing barrel for some reason). I made some changes, and mine is in 9mm. MSRP was about $3200, but I paid $2990. (it has 25 LPI front strap checkering, but I like these grips)
That pistola is hardcore sweet.....................................but it needs some G10 Grips. |
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Thanks. I actually tried 4 different grips - but missed the pachmeyer grips on the MC Operator I previously owned. So, I put these grips on this gun and my Ed Brown Special Forces. I know its sad to put $20 grips on such nice guns, but I can't help it. Someone held it about a week ago and agreed that the grips felt awesome on the gun. |
| Good question. The monolith frame that the pistol is based on(i think) has superior weight and handleing characteristics. They had to machine the rail that way so that you could get the light over the monolith dust cover and back far enough to get the switch close to the trigger. I guess they could have just machined the rails in there and not the sections intil they got closer to the trigger........but they didnt. Im not a fan of the look of the unused rail space on the front, but it was probably one of the only options. |
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if the base model has a barrel bushing, how come the professional model also has a bushing? not trying to call you out but when i asked a hunter buddy of mine which is more accurate: bull or bushing he said "i don't know; i hunt with a rifle" damn smartass! i'm serious in case anyone knows. my mind isn't free to explore these things during work hours when the manufacturers are open for questions. |
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It's not really a TRP Pro. It's just the Professional. It's an actual Custom Shop pistol built completely by them to the FBI spec. The TRP and TRP Operators are the cheaper copies. Standard barrel (or bull in the Operator) instead of the match in the Pro, two piece SA magwell/mainspring housing with the lock instead of the Smith & Alexander one piece on the Pro, machine checkered instead of hand checkered, MIM and not machined fire control goup, not as accurate, looser slide to frame fit. Basically a higher end production line pistol while the Pro is completely done by the Custom Shop. The Custom Shop is a true custom shop by the way. They can do everything from add sights to make a complete pistol from scratch. Every bit as good as a Les Baer or even a Wilson in my opinion (and we aren't a Springfield dealer but do stock Les Baers, and are a Wilson Combat master dealer, so if anything I should be biased towards those two!). Of course the Pro has an additional price because it's the FBI gun, and it's made in limited numbers with the FBI having the priority on getting them followed by individual officers, and finally (according to posts here and another 1911 forum) normal dealers/distributors.
If you want a full rail Operator you have three choices. 1. Get a used one. 2. Get a Custom Shop build. 3. Find a dealer that can/will order you a California compliant model. I've been thinking of having my TRP full rail Operator upgraded with a match barrel with bushing and a GI type guide rod, and maybe have the slide to frame fit tightened... or not, and have the trigger tuned. It just has Nighthawk parts dropped in so it's not as nice as it could be. |
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The TRP and TRP Operators are the cheaper copies. Standard barrel (or bull in the Operator) instead of the match in the Pro I believe you are incorrect on the TRP having standard barrels. They are/have match grade barrels from my understanding. Match grade is different from having the parts matched togather for fit. |
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It's not really a TRP Pro. It's just the Professional. It's an actual Custom Shop pistol built completely by them to the FBI spec. The TRP and TRP Operators are the cheaper copies. Standard barrel (or bull in the Operator) instead of the match in the Pro, two piece SA magwell/mainspring housing with the lock instead of the Smith & Alexander one piece on the Pro, machine checkered instead of hand checkered, MIM and not machined fire control goup, not as accurate, looser slide to frame fit. Basically a higher end production line pistol while the Pro is completely done by the Custom Shop. The Custom Shop is a true custom shop by the way. They can do everything from add sights to make a complete pistol from scratch. Every bit as good as a Les Baer or even a Wilson in my opinion (and we aren't a Springfield dealer but do stock Les Baers, and are a Wilson Combat master dealer, so if anything I should be biased towards those two!). Of course the Pro has an additional price because it's the FBI gun, and it's made in limited numbers with the FBI having the priority on getting them followed by individual officers, and finally (according to posts here and another 1911 forum) normal dealers/distributors. If you want a full rail Operator you have three choices. 1. Get a used one. 2. Get a Custom Shop build. 3. Find a dealer that can/will order you a California compliant model. I've been thinking of having my TRP full rail Operator upgraded with a match barrel with bushing and a GI type guide rod, and maybe have the slide to frame fit tightened... or not, and have the trigger tuned. It just has Nighthawk parts dropped in so it's not as nice as it could be. If I'm not mistaken, I think the TRP was out before the PRO. So the TRP is not a cheaper copy it is the original, and the PRO is an improved version. |
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If I'm not mistaken, I think the TRP was out before the PRO. So the TRP is not a cheaper copy it is the original, and the PRO is an improved version. The pro is a custom shop gun.....its not an improved version of anything that I know of.....let alone the TRP. |
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It's not really a TRP Pro. It's just the Professional. It's an actual Custom Shop pistol built completely by them to the FBI spec. The TRP and TRP Operators are the cheaper copies. Standard barrel (or bull in the Operator) instead of the match in the Pro, two piece SA magwell/mainspring housing with the lock instead of the Smith & Alexander one piece on the Pro, machine checkered instead of hand checkered, MIM and not machined fire control goup, not as accurate, looser slide to frame fit. Basically a higher end production line pistol while the Pro is completely done by the Custom Shop. The Custom Shop is a true custom shop by the way. They can do everything from add sights to make a complete pistol from scratch. Every bit as good as a Les Baer or even a Wilson in my opinion (and we aren't a Springfield dealer but do stock Les Baers, and are a Wilson Combat master dealer, so if anything I should be biased towards those two!). Of course the Pro has an additional price because it's the FBI gun, and it's made in limited numbers with the FBI having the priority on getting them followed by individual officers, and finally (according to posts here and another 1911 forum) normal dealers/distributors. If you want a full rail Operator you have three choices. 1. Get a used one. 2. Get a Custom Shop build. 3. Find a dealer that can/will order you a California compliant model. I've been thinking of having my TRP full rail Operator upgraded with a match barrel with bushing and a GI type guide rod, and maybe have the slide to frame fit tightened... or not, and have the trigger tuned. It just has Nighthawk parts dropped in so it's not as nice as it could be. If I'm not mistaken, I think the TRP was out before the PRO. So the TRP is not a cheaper copy it is the original, and the PRO is an improved version. it's the other way around. the Professional came first, then the TRP followed as a less expensive (production) Professional. |
 My Mil-Spec I got off GB about two years ago I think. The previous owner obviously did a lot of work to it and it cost me a little more than a Mil-Spec but it was in line with the Loaded models at the time. I actually like front serrations but as luck would have it I didn't get them. I really like it except for that stupid glued in ejector! It fell out the 5th time I took it out shooting. Other than that it is an excellent gun and I love mine. It looks different now in that I got it some VZ Operator Grips. I don't know if anyone ever saw it but there is a vendor on the board from something like Griffin Armament or the like who had a really nice Operator and he even made a can called the Operator for a while. Last I saw they ended up on the EE. |