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Posted: 7/5/2023 10:32:00 PM EST
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:07:05 PM EST
[#1]
Looks like a sword
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Posted: 7/6/2023 12:32:03 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836: Looks like a sword |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 1:44:26 AM EST
[#3]
S&W is announcing a new product on the 11th. The question is, what is it.
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Posted: 7/6/2023 7:03:17 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton: A Gladius. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: Looks like a sword Better hope George Gardner hasnāt trademarked the term yet in relation to a firearm. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 7:52:22 AM EST
[#5]
Gee, I wonder if it will be a striker fired 9mm?
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Posted: 7/6/2023 8:24:32 AM EST
[#6]
Hammer fired .357 SIG.
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USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 8:37:50 AM EST
[#7]
Garrison Commander.
Please |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 8:39:19 AM EST
[#8]
Striker fired 9mm. trying to compete with Glock
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Posted: 7/6/2023 10:24:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: SSeric02]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cooper1: Garrison Commander. Please I'd buy one. ETA: But I bet it's some sort of rifle or something with a whole new name |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 11:34:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: thatguybryan]
[#10]
The Gladius (short sword) makes me think something a little smaller, and I am thinking it could be a Staccato CS competitor. I donāt think itāll be an SA35 shorty because of the name difference, but I could be wrong.
It could also be a Sig Spear competitor.. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 5:00:40 PM EST
[#11]
Are you not entertained?!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2023 8:25:38 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AFSOC_COP: Are you not entertained?! Not at all. Takes a lot to get my attention these days. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 8:31:50 PM EST
[#13]
I'll be at one of the into events in two Saturdays. I'm curious if it will be worth the drive.
I'm just hoping it works better than the Prodigy they let me (attempt to) shoot at their last event. |
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Posted: 7/7/2023 1:49:03 PM EST
[#14]
Someone shared an image of it in the thread about it in GD:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Springfield-Armory-new-firearm-release/5-2655606/&page=5&anc=104853852 Full-size gun at least modeled in part after the Hellcat with a removable fire control unit like Sig P320ās. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2023 9:55:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Evintos]
[#15]
      Threaded barrel version at launch. UPC circled. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 7:23:45 PM EST
[#16]
Looks like a sig P320 with interchangeable back straps and trigger safety.
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Posted: 7/9/2023 7:44:08 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Max429: Looks like a Looks more like an XD to me. Same shape to the trigger guard. |
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Posted: 7/9/2023 8:17:17 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Looks more like an XD to me. Same shape to the trigger guard. |
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Posted: 7/9/2023 8:46:01 AM EST
[#19]
No grip zone!
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Posted: 7/10/2023 3:49:07 PM EST
[#20]
The frame protrusion around the mag release seems awkward to me.
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Posted: 7/10/2023 10:46:46 PM EST
[#21]
Will buy one.
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Posted: 7/10/2023 11:34:06 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: The frame protrusion around the mag release seems awkward to me. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2023 12:44:27 AM EST
[#23]
SA version of a P320. Looks to be modular chassis.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2023 1:39:04 AM EST
[#24]
More Croatian imports at 400% markup? SIGN ME UP!!!
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USA
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Posted: 7/11/2023 11:52:25 AM EST
[#25]
Great looking handgun with modularity ... if it takes XDm mags I'll might try one ...
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Posted: 7/11/2023 11:44:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: recon]
[#26]
 ALL NEW Springfield Armory Echelon 9mm Optic Ready Pistol | Review  Echelonā¢ - Springfield ArmoryĀ® |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 5:02:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: ScoutH57]
[#27]
Actually looks pretty cool. No gripzone.
Optic mounting system looks pretty cool and well engineered too. And still a better name than Hellion |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 5:55:31 AM EST
[#28]
The Sig all the Glock fanbois want
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Posted: 7/12/2023 7:42:18 AM EST
[#29]
Wow, that looks pretty nice actually. The optic system is a nice touch.
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Posted: 7/12/2023 8:09:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: GreyBeardBiker]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Wow, that looks pretty nice actually. The optic system is a nice touch. I do like the looks of this new pistol. It kind of makes me think a bit of the VP-9 or Walther PDP. The universal RD mounting system is the Boss. I do wonder when SA will make a pistol which gains adoption in LEO circles?? |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 8:13:24 AM EST
[#31]
It's a rip off of Sig.
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Posted: 7/12/2023 8:35:02 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By recon:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvIEGOJfyyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXVVDbfu9Tw |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 9:06:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: Evintos]
[#33]
 Looks like an XDM Mag cut but definitely a different follower.  The 2nd sear in the design is also very interesting. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 11:21:43 AM EST
[#34]
I think this thing looks pretty great-- I especially like how the grip modules actually come in different sizes for different sized hands and those slide serrations. I wonder if a 10mm could be in the future or if this is just a 9mm platform.
Alas, I probably would have bought this instead of an XDM, but I don't need another polymer 9mm. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:07:00 PM EST
[#35]
So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ...
Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ... I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ... |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:17:02 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ... Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ... I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ... They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over..... |
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USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:24:26 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Originally Posted By thehun06: So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ... Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ... I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ... They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over..... Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ... |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:28:22 PM EST
[#38]
Looks identical to the Beretta APX. Not that itās a bad thing.
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:34:47 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ... Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ... I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 1:52:34 PM EST
[#40]
I played with one today, I work for a distributor. Nice pistol with a good trigger/short reset. Slide feels great the way they cut it. Very comfy grip with great texture. Should be a winner for them.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 3:00:57 PM EST
[#41]
 The most in depth Springfield Armory Echelon Review You Will See! Starting at 30 minutes 13 seconds regarding magazine compatibility. |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 3:08:10 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ameshawki: Looks identical to the Beretta APX. Ā Not that itās a bad thing. It resembles an APX in the grossest sense. But identical? Nope. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 3:47:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: X_Ring_903]
[#43]
Picked mine up today. Pointed great and the trigger is the best factory trigger Iāve felt. Looking forward to spending some time behind it this weekend.
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Posted: 7/12/2023 4:10:30 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Originally Posted By thehun06: So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ... Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ... I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ... They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over..... Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 4:23:31 PM EST
[#45]
Boring
I like my plastic pistols but Iām burned out on them |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 4:36:26 PM EST
[#46]
I sold a LOT of these today in a otherwise pretty slow gun market.
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Posted: 7/12/2023 4:42:29 PM EST
[#47]
Meh
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Posted: 7/12/2023 4:45:22 PM EST
[#48]
The issue of magazine compatibility is really not as big an issue as one thinks it is. Look at FN, Beretta, SIG, HK, S&W, and even Ruger. They all come out with new shit that is compatible with the old stuff. Hell, the goal of a manufacturer is to get folks to buy a new product and all the new ancillary components to it.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 5:53:14 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScoutH57: Actually looks pretty cool. No gripzone. Optic mounting system looks pretty cool and well engineered too. And still a better name than Hellion š¢ |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2023 6:43:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: Timmy668]
[#50]
My reliability concern is the ten holes for the optics mounting in the thinnest part of the slide.
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