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Posted: 12/7/2005 11:08:20 PM EDT
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Tagging, so I can hear the non-biased, objective rundown of all these models from everyone.
 Seriously, get the one you like. They're all good guns. |
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Posted: 12/8/2005 12:08:36 AM EDT
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Both are very well made and you will get good service out of either (as long as the Kimber has an internal extractor)
 Being a traditionalist I prefer a Kimber with internal extractor myself. |
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Posted: 12/8/2005 1:03:08 AM EDT
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I have a Custom TLE/RL II, really like it and no problems so far on mine with the external extractor.
S&W also makes a very good gun. Be honest. Do you really need a light rail? That's the deciding factor. |
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Posted: 12/8/2005 5:20:36 PM EDT
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Getting my SW1911PD tomorrow! I will have to shovel myself out and then traverse through the snow to my dealer to get it hopefully without going off the road, but I'm gonna get it!!!!!
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Posted: 12/9/2005 12:13:15 PM EDT
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Get the Kimber, but try to find one with an internal extractor. They have started making the TLE/RL II with the interal extractor, but it may be difficult to find. It is a great gun and shoots excellent, but the external extractor is hit and miss. Mine doesn't always work right (may need to go back to the factory). Good luck.
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Posted: 12/9/2005 4:51:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for the suggestions! I'm going to get mine on the net. Local shops want too much!
I think I can get it under $900. I will look for a TLE/RL II with internal extractor, if not, S&W is where I'll go. Thanks! Mike |
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Posted: 12/9/2005 8:18:35 PM EDT
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Kimber doensn't produce the TLE RL II with the internal extractor. Only the 'Warrior' has the internal extractor...D
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Posted: 12/10/2005 3:50:03 AM EDT
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If your use is for USPSA, keep in mind that the light rails will keep you in L-10 and prevent you from competing in the new single stack division.
That being said, with rails, you will NEED a sure fire to hang from it! |
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Posted: 12/10/2005 7:14:50 AM EDT
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I have a TLE-II with the internal extractor and no light rail. I absolutly love it!!!! Never had any type of FTF, or FTE. It is accurate as hell. I do use shooting star mags. Ed
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Posted: 12/10/2005 7:56:38 AM EDT
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Care to make a wager? 
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Posted: 12/14/2005 4:49:39 PM EDT
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Neither.
Get either a Kimber 25th anniversary edition (series 1, internal extractor), or perhaps Hilton Yam's limited run of Kimbers (series 1, internal extractor). Check the 10-8 forums and other information at www.signaturegrade.com for more info. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 5:00:17 PM EDT
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What !?! What!?! How can one be "Tactical" without a light rail ? Well, tell me !  
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Posted: 12/14/2005 5:17:01 PM EDT
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JMO
I have several 1911s, including three pretty serious match-level guns and like them all, but would never get a railed 1911 as my first, or only one. My Warrior shoots and handles great so far, but the railed guns just do not handle or hide as well as those of classic design. I have a Kimber TLEII with external extractor that has been flawless after nearly 500rd. now, but still prefer the old style design with internal extractor. I have heard that the S&W external extractor IS a better design than the Kimber's, but cannot verify that. What I can verify is that there are not tons of S&W owners on every gun board you see bitching about how they do not work well! For that money, I think I would seriously consider a Springfield Loaded parkerized. a decent trigger job, replace the stupid MSH and buy a nice SureFire handheld (C2) and some ammo. You won't get quite the accuracy level out of it that you will from the others, but it will...again, IMO...be a better all around 1911. All are very nice 1911s. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 6:16:53 PM EDT
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My brand new Kimber TLE II, although not a rail model, came with a internal extractor. Life is good.
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Posted: 12/17/2005 8:08:19 PM EDT
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Get the S&W......I have been burnt by kimber twice, there will not be a third....both were POS.
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Posted: 12/17/2005 9:23:45 PM EDT
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I like the looks of the S&W and the company is great overall. The front sight buggs me on the S&W, as it is not blended to the slide. I own a TLEII (External extractor) w/o one problem with the gun. Kimber is still the best value for your $$$ IMO. If this were a thred about Revolves then no question S&W.
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