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4/4/2011 7:40:34 AM EDT
I have a CZ-75 SP-01 and I am thinking of replacing the Guide Rod with the SS Guide Rod at the CZ Custom Shop. Is it worth while? I cant seem to find much info on it. I am also replacing some of the springs with some RP and XP Wolff Springs, and I plan to get some range time to try it all out.

So anyone have the SS Guide Rod, and would you recommend it, or just stick with the plastic one?

Thanks
4/5/2011 8:07:36 AM EDT
[#1]
I guess it is up to you. I'm on my 3rd cz with plastic guide rods and I haven't had any issues.  Mark
4/5/2011 3:06:09 PM EDT
[#2]
I don't own a CZ with a full length guide rod, just a standard recoil spring guide. But here are my feelings on the plastic unit I found in my new CZ 85B.  If I had wanted a plastic gun I would have bought a plastic gun. But I bought a CZ and was very upset to find the plastic recoil spring guide in it. It all depends on what you are comfortable with, and plastic just doesn't do it for me. I wouldn't like a plastic hood latch on a Porche, either, although I'm sure it would be quite reliable.

Like the other gentleman said, it all depends on what you like.

MM

4/5/2011 3:39:29 PM EDT
[#3]
I have the CZ Custom stainless guide rods in my SP01 and Shadow.  I prefer having a metal guide rod over the plastic ones.  The only time I use the plastic guide rods is to make weight for IDPA.  I'd say go for the metal one.
4/5/2011 5:45:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Cool, I went ahead and ordered one, along with some springs. I will share some pictures and comments once it shows up.

I also had to send my slide back to CZ, my 3 year old front night sight went 100% dead, I called them up, and they said just send us the slide and we will put a new one in and send it back to you. Excellent!


Anyone run the Buffer in their CZ, the one from Buffer Technologies. I think I wont bother, but was looking for other opinions.
4/7/2011 2:40:14 PM EDT
[#5]
I bought the SS Guide rod, and here are some photos, on the left is the Factory SP-01 Guide Rod, in the middle is the "SP-01" Plastic Guide Rod on CZ Custom Website, and on the right is the SS Guide Rod. The quality of the middle rod is shit, but it is double diameter so it could prevent buckling. The quality of the SS rod is great. I really want to try it out, but my slide is out at CZ USA getting the front night sight replaced, the tritium went dead after 3 years.


I will get some more pictures and a range report. I am also replacing the recoil spring and main hammer spring. I have a 13, 15, 17 and factory lb main hammer springs to try, and then a 13, 15 lb recoil springs. Range report soon.

I did install a 13lb main hammer spring, and it is very light, I am thinking that the 15 will be better, the 13 is very nice, but seems a little too light for a combat type of pistol, my use for this gun is not for extreme competition, so a super light trigger isnt right.
4/20/2011 12:30:02 AM EDT
[#6]
I have the SS rods. You can't use the factory "flat" recoil springs with the SS rods, you have to buy the CZ custom rounded springs. The O.D. of the flat spring is larger then the round ones. One of the reasons the factory rods are plastic is so the rods can bend when installing them into the slide. Since SS does not bend, it creates a problem when installing with the thicker flat spring. That's why the SS rods are shorter and tapered at the ends. This is not a issue with the 75/85 since the bottom of the slide is not as long. I do like the flat springs more because they don't seem to buckle like the round ones. I may grind my slide down to be able to fit the flat springs. The factory spring is 16 lbs so if you do get the SS rod, CZ custom will recommend you also get the 15 or 14 lbs round springs. let me know if you need pictures.
4/20/2011 4:25:14 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I have the SS rods. You can't use the factory "flat" recoil springs with the SS rods, you have to buy the CZ custom rounded springs. The O.D. of the flat spring is larger then the round ones. One of the reasons the factory rods are plastic is so the rods can bend when installing them into the slide. Since SS does not bend, it creates a problem when installing with the thicker flat spring. That's why the SS rods are shorter and tapered at the ends. This is not a issue with the 75/85 since the bottom of the slide is not as long. I do like the flat springs more because they don't seem to buckle like the round ones. I may grind my slide down to be able to fit the flat springs. The factory spring is 16 lbs so if you do get the SS rod, CZ custom will recommend you also get the 15 or 14 lbs round springs. let me know if you need pictures.


Yea the factory flat spring wont work with the SS rod, but I did pick up some extra Wolff springs, and after some trial and error at the range I settled on a 15lb recoild spring, SS rod, and a 17 lb main hammer spring. I had gotten a few FTF from light primer strikes so I upped the main hammer spring weight, and I did not notice a huge difference between the 13 and 15 wire springs, so I went with the 15, which feels lighter than the factor spring.

Careful removing slide material, you will mess up the slide weight thus messing up the cycling of the gun overall.

Ill get some pictures up soon, the SS looks much better, but even with the wire springs it can be a pain to get in.
4/20/2011 7:26:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:


Yea the factory flat spring wont work with the SS rod, but I did pick up some extra Wolff springs, and after some trial and error at the range I settled on a 15lb recoild spring, SS rod, and a 17 lb main hammer spring. I had gotten a few FTF from light primer strikes so I upped the main hammer spring weight, and I did not notice a huge difference between the 13 and 15 wire springs, so I went with the 15, which feels lighter than the factor spring.

Careful removing slide material, you will mess up the slide weight thus messing up the cycling of the gun overall.

Ill get some pictures up soon, the SS looks much better, but even with the wire springs it can be a pain to get in.


+1 looks like you and me think alike.

5/23/2011 7:08:08 PM EDT
[#9]
SS guide rods were offered by czforum members who were machinists a couple of years ago for the 40-B and the 97-B, and I picked up a Wilson SS rod for my SA MilSpec .45 as well; I felt that the higher power of those rounds justified a more solid arrangement in the guide rod.