Posted: 3/2/2010 1:41:17 PM EDT
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I don't understand it. I bought a Ruger Sp101 with the 2 1/4 barrel.
I have no problems hitting a target with .38 +P, but I can't even hit paper with .357. I know I am not flinching and recoil isn't a problem... |
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How far is your target? I'm betting you ARE flinching!
Do this: Load five bullets only, spin the cylinder while looking away so you don't know when the empty chamber comes up, then fire until the gun fails to fire. I'm betting that you will see your sights waver a lot when the empty chamber comes up. The problem with flinching is that the recoil masks the physical sensation of flinching. You cannot really know if this is the problem unless you 'trick' yourself into thinking the gun is going to fire when it doesn't. ETA AAR required. |
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Short barreled 357's will print different bullet weights and different loads all over the map (target)
Get yourself a bunch of different loads and head to the range with some big backer sheets for the target to see where the shots are going. I agree with the other gentleman that flinching is hard to spot as the shooter, get someone to watch as you shoot |
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How far is your target? I'm betting you ARE flinching! Do this: Load five 4 bullets only, spin the cylinder while looking away so you don't know when the empty chamber comes up, then fire until the gun fails to fire. I'm betting that you will see your sights waver a lot when the empty chamber comes up. The problem with flinching is that the recoil masks the physical sensation of flinching. You cannot really know if this is the problem unless you 'trick' yourself into thinking the gun is going to fire when it doesn't. ETA AAR required. |
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How far is your target? I'm betting you ARE flinching! Do this: Load five 4 bullets only, spin the cylinder while looking away so you don't know when the empty chamber comes up, then fire until the gun fails to fire. I'm betting that you will see your sights waver a lot when the empty chamber comes up. The problem with flinching is that the recoil masks the physical sensation of flinching. You cannot really know if this is the problem unless you 'trick' yourself into thinking the gun is going to fire when it doesn't. ETA AAR required. I do this drill - or something like it - EVERY time I take a revolver to the range. I generally load two rounds into the cylinder and squeeze through the trigger pull six times, regardless of where the rounds are. It is surprising how much smoother my trigger pull gets after a few cylinders of this. It is also depressing how bad my trigger pull gets if I go 8-10 weeks without shooting. Also - newer Rugers have tougher triggers than older ones, every extra pull of the trigger is a little bit of polishing and wear on that spring. That trigger will be silky smooth in no time. The other double action drill is to put a penny on the front sight when dry-firing. If it stays there through the pull (including hammer fall) - it was a good pull. If it doesn't, you can literally see which way you are pulling the weapon by where it falls. shooter |
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Quoted:I do this drill - or something like it - EVERY time I take a revolver to the range. I generally load two rounds into the cylinder and squeeze through the trigger pull six times, regardless of where the rounds are. It is surprising how much smoother my trigger pull gets after a few cylinders of this. It is also depressing how bad my trigger pull gets if I go 8-10 weeks without shooting. Also - newer Rugers have tougher triggers than older ones, every extra pull of the trigger is a little bit of polishing and wear on that spring. That trigger will be silky smooth in no time.
The other double action drill is to put a penny on the front sight when dry-firing. If it stays there through the pull (including hammer fall) - it was a good pull. If it doesn't, you can literally see which way you are pulling the weapon by where it falls. shooter This is good advice. Most people are quick to blame the gun as opposed to blaming themselves. |
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Unless you are FAR away from the target, different ammo won't print that much different.
As an example, I fired some 125gr Federal .357 mags (1450fps) out of a 4" M65 using a center hold. I then fired some 158gr .357 mags at the same target, using a center hold. The 125gr loads were about 1" under the 10 ring on a rapid fire bullseye target at 20 yards. The 158gr loads were at the top of the black on the same target, same distance. |
| I've fired mixed cylinders of .38 148gr wad cutters, .38+p 158gr SWC's, and .357 158gr and 125gr magnums at bullseye targets. They all stay in the black at 25 yards. I've tried the same thing with my 340PD, and all the rounds group well at 25'. A snubbie is going to magnify any flinch or sight misalignment issue you may have. |