M&P in .22LR? - AR15.COM

Posted: 5/12/2011 8:33:16 AM EDT

As a VERY satisfied new owner of an M&P9 (as well as an M&P15-22 rifle) I am curious to know if anyone has heard if S&W plans on coming out with a dedicated .22LR pistol based on the M&P series, or at least a conversion kit for practice/plinking/training. I'd snatch one up immediately if such a thing were available.

Posted: 5/12/2011 8:40:06 AM EDT

[#1]

You mean something like this?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785503_-1__757753__ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I haven't seen one in person yet (or available anywhere).

Posted: 5/12/2011 8:42:29 AM EDT

[#2]

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You mean something like this?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785503_-1__757753__ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I haven't seen one in person yet (or available anywhere).

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/detail_md/222000_01_md.jpg

Exactly! Cool! Will keep an eye out for one in my area. Thanks!

Posted: 5/12/2011 2:12:53 PM EDT

[#3]

From what I am seeing, they won't be available for purchase until sometime between July and September.

Bummer... my credit card was getting itchy again...

Posted: 5/14/2011 7:59:20 AM EDT

[#4]

Express Police Supply had them listed for $281

ETA Link: http://www.ombexpress.com/p_SW280.aspx

Posted: 5/16/2011 8:29:59 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

You mean something like this?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785503_-1__757753__ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I haven't seen one in person yet (or available anywhere).

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/detail_md/222000_01_md.jpg

The S&W rep I talked to said it is hammer-fired.

Posted: 5/17/2011 5:53:56 PM EDT

[#6]

It also won't have the interchangable backstraps.

Posted: 5/17/2011 6:09:49 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Express Police Supply had them listed for $281

ETA Link: http://www.ombexpress.com/p_SW280.aspx

GREAT!!!! I will have to get one of those on order with my threaded barrel kit 9.

Posted: 5/18/2011 7:13:38 AM EDT

[#8]

I already have my order in at my local gun store.

Posted: 5/19/2011 6:33:16 PM EDT

[#9]

Does anybody know what kind of warranty Smith and Wesson is offering on that pistol ?

I'd really like to own one of them.

Posted: 5/19/2011 6:36:58 PM EDT

[#10]

Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

Posted: 5/20/2011 2:54:54 PM EDT

[#11]

Would be very nice if the slide fit on the frame of my mp9. Challenge for CZ Kadet.

Posted: 5/24/2011 6:44:55 AM EDT

[#12]

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Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

+1......it's a P22 made to look like a M&P.

Posted: 5/24/2011 7:32:29 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

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Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

+1......it's a P22 made to look like a M&P.

I'll reserve judgement until I see one in person.

Most of the rumors about it is just that, rumors.

Posted: 5/24/2011 3:40:03 PM EDT

[#14]

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Would be very nice if the slide fit on the frame of my mp9. Challenge for CZ Kadet.

I agree. I would rather have a slide conversion kit.

Posted: 5/24/2011 4:38:07 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Would be very nice if the slide fit on the frame of my mp9. Challenge for CZ Kadet.

I agree. I would rather have a slide conversion kit.

My druthers is a conversion kit. I'm hoping someone will come out with one.

Posted: 5/24/2011 7:09:40 PM EDT

[#16]

Smith & Wesson rep came to the shop I work at today and was telling us about the M&P 22's we are going to get in June. He verified they are made by Walther/Umarex.

Posted: 5/25/2011 3:42:52 AM EDT

[#17]

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Smith & Wesson rep came to the shop I work at today and was telling us about the M&P 22's we are going to get in June. He verified they are made by Walther/Umarex.

Disappointing...

Posted: 5/25/2011 5:34:32 AM EDT

[#18]

I've read that it will have a machined aluminum slide rather than one made of cast zinc like that of the P22, and closeups of the slide seem to bear that out.

I'm not going to pass judgement until I have one of them in my own hands and get to examine it for myself.

It's a pistol I would seriously want to own if the quality is passable and the price is fair for what you get.

Posted: 5/25/2011 8:51:48 AM EDT

[#19]

You mean this one?

IMG_0271 by zer_cool, on Flickr

I played with this at the NRA convention. Felt like a slightly-lightened version of a standard M&P. I plan to get one.

Posted: 5/26/2011 3:21:10 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

S&W wouldnt be as stupid as Colt and HK in selling a Umarex POS

Posted: 6/4/2011 4:03:19 PM EDT

[#21]

So has anyone heard of these hitting the shelf yet?

Posted: 6/4/2011 6:37:34 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

S&W wouldnt be as stupid as Colt and HK in selling a Umarex POS

It says in the 2011 S&W catalog that it is made by Walther.

Posted: 6/6/2011 3:02:57 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

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Its a Umarex/Walther pot-metal airsoft POS. I'm calling it now.

S&W wouldnt be as stupid as Colt and HK in selling a Umarex POS

It says in the 2011 S&W catalog that it is made by Walther.

I Googled it & found this.

Posted: 6/7/2011 5:04:41 AM EDT

[#24]

I guess I don't understand why manufacturers would come up with a whole new pistol, instead of just designing a new slide and magazine, especially if they're in a rush to "ride the wave" of .22 clone popularity. I would rather have a upper unit with a fixed slide/barrel and a smaller reciprocating slide than a whole different gun, but maybe there are design limitations there I'm unaware of.

Posted: 6/7/2011 3:54:26 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
You mean something like this?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785503_-1__757753__ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I haven't seen one in person yet (or available anywhere).

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/detail_md/222000_01_md.jpg

i saw one at S&W last week. i am waiting on AAR's before i purchase one. although, i may rent one next time i'm there.

Posted: 6/7/2011 4:00:42 PM EDT

[#26]

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I guess I don't understand why manufacturers would come up with a whole new pistol, instead of just designing a new slide and magazine, especially if they're in a rush to "ride the wave" of .22 clone popularity. I would rather have a upper unit with a fixed slide/barrel and a smaller reciprocating slide than a whole different gun, but maybe there are design limitations there I'm unaware of.

You must have missed the part about the striker being problematic with the .22LR cartridge.

Posted: 6/7/2011 9:34:03 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I guess I don't understand why manufacturers would come up with a whole new pistol, instead of just designing a new slide and magazine, especially if they're in a rush to "ride the wave" of .22 clone popularity. I would rather have a upper unit with a fixed slide/barrel and a smaller reciprocating slide than a whole different gun, but maybe there are design limitations there I'm unaware of.

You must have missed the part about the striker being problematic with the .22LR cartridge.

No, I read the article, it just doesn't make any sense to me. What does the primer care how the firing pin is actuated, as long as it's struck with the proper force?

Posted: 6/9/2011 10:10:52 AM EDT

[#28]

I wish S&W would have gone with the conversion kit vice a dedicated .22.

From what I've been told, the frame won't accept the Apex goodies, so that's a bummer.

Still, a .22 version of the M&P is cool anyway. I'll be getting one.

Posted: 6/18/2011 12:05:55 PM EDT

[#29]

Anyone know if there will be a threaded barrel available for this?

Posted: 6/18/2011 2:40:45 PM EDT

[#30]

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Anyone know if there will be a threaded barrel available for this?

It will be like the P22 with a 1/2x28 adapter that you screw on the end of the barrel, replacing the barrel nut.

Posted: 6/18/2011 3:47:27 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I guess I don't understand why manufacturers would come up with a whole new pistol, instead of just designing a new slide and magazine, especially if they're in a rush to "ride the wave" of .22 clone popularity. I would rather have a upper unit with a fixed slide/barrel and a smaller reciprocating slide than a whole different gun, but maybe there are design limitations there I'm unaware of.

You must have missed the part about the striker being problematic with the .22LR cartridge.

Advantage Arms is able to make a striker-fired conversion for Glocks, why couldn't Smith & Wesson make one for the M&P?

Posted: 6/19/2011 11:18:41 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I guess I don't understand why manufacturers would come up with a whole new pistol, instead of just designing a new slide and magazine, especially if they're in a rush to "ride the wave" of .22 clone popularity. I would rather have a upper unit with a fixed slide/barrel and a smaller reciprocating slide than a whole different gun, but maybe there are design limitations there I'm unaware of.

You must have missed the part about the striker being problematic with the .22LR cartridge.

Advantage Arms is able to make a striker-fired conversion for Glocks, why couldn't Smith & Wesson make one for the M&P?

Ask S&W.

Posted: 6/19/2011 4:56:44 PM EDT

[#33]

Not sure about those since I heard the slide is aluminum alloy. Doesn't fill me with confidence even though it's only a .22.

Posted: 6/20/2011 11:20:48 PM EDT

[#34]

my .22 conversion slide for my 1911 is aluminum and so is most of the M16, M4, Ar15 family...they've all worked fine for me.

Posted: 6/21/2011 3:23:45 AM EDT

[#35]

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Not sure about those since I heard the slide is aluminum alloy. Doesn't fill me with confidence even though it's only a .22.

Machined aluminum is fine for the slide of a .22 rimfire pistol; it's cast pot metal that presents a problem.

If the slide for the new pistol is machined from aluminum bar stock, and I believe it is, it will be GTG.

Posted: 6/21/2011 9:02:38 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not sure about those since I heard the slide is aluminum alloy. Doesn't fill me with confidence even though it's only a .22.

Machined aluminum is fine for the slide of a .22 rimfire pistol; it's cast pot metal that presents a problem.

If the slide for the new pistol is machined from aluminum bar stock, and I believe it is, it will be GTG.

Yep..Sig's 22 kits are machined aluminum and the one I had never gave me any problems.

Posted: 6/21/2011 9:14:44 AM EDT

[#37]

any time frame for this pistol?

Posted: 6/21/2011 9:16:43 AM EDT

[#38]

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any time frame for this pistol?

I keep hearing end of summer/early fall.

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