Posted: 8/19/2010 8:07:35 AM EDT
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I bought a LCP and I can't shoot it worth a damn. My groups went from inches to feet with this gun. With my Cz75th compact and 22/45 I can keep it with in 3 inches at ten yards. With the LCP my groups were over two feet and all over the place. Its worst when I try and just use the first pad of my finger. Any help would be appreciated. eta: I was using S&B ammo. |
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Take the pistol unloaded (chamber and mag). Point it in a safe direction and pull on the trigger until you get used to its breaking point. It has a long pull but I have got to where I know exactly where the break is with mine. Go to the range, pull until you get right to the break, line up the sights and squeeze. It takes a few rounds to get used to but I can hit really good with mine now.
I also put a piece of the stiff velcro with adhesive on the front of the trigger guard. My index finger has a bite on it when I am holding it with both hands. Faster getting back on target like that. |
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I bought a LCP and I can't shoot it worth a damn. My groups went from inches to feet with this gun. With my Cz75th compact and 22/45 I can keep it with in 3 inches at ten yards. With the LCP my groups were over two feet and all over the place. Its worst when I try and just use the first pad of my finger. Any help would be appreciated. Let's talk for a minute about physics. What's the trigger weight on that LCP? 6? 7 pounds? Now how much does the pistol actually weigh? Note that when the trigger pull is several times the actual weight of the gun, it means that the pistol itself will not be able to resist the torque you are applying to the trigger on it's own. Thus you must grip the pistol FIRMLY to keep it in place while you are pulling the trigger. You must also pay careful attention to trigger control to have any hope at accuracy whatsoever. You must also be exceptionally precise with the alignment of the almost vestigial sights on the weapon. Generally most people are not terribly skilled with a handgun. They don't really understand trigger control or sight alignment as much as they think, and when you give them a pistol that's hard to shoot well it comes out. The LCP is, generally speaking, challenging to shoot...but with the right focus on fundamentals you can shoot it very well: 
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Quoted: It does magnify any mistakes you make. Quoted: I bought a LCP and I can't shoot it worth a damn. My groups went from inches to feet with this gun. With my Cz75th compact and 22/45 I can keep it with in 3 inches at ten yards. With the LCP my groups were over two feet and all over the place. Its worst when I try and just use the first pad of my finger. Any help would be appreciated. Let's talk for a minute about physics. What's the trigger weight on that LCP? 6? 7 pounds? Now how much does the pistol actually weigh? Note that when the trigger pull is several times the actual weight of the gun, it means that the pistol itself will not be able to resist the torque you are applying to the trigger on it's own. Thus you must grip the pistol FIRMLY to keep it in place while you are pulling the trigger. You must also pay careful attention to trigger control to have any hope at accuracy whatsoever. You must also be exceptionally precise with the alignment of the almost vestigial sights on the weapon. Generally most people are not terribly skilled with a handgun. They don't really understand trigger control or sight alignment as much as they think, and when you give them a pistol that's hard to shoot well it comes out. The LCP is, generally speaking, challenging to shoot...but with the right focus on fundamentals you can shoot it very well: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/jwayne_777/IMGP0883.jpg |
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It does magnify any mistakes you make. Yup. Jerry Miculek uses a particular grip for J frame revolvers that works well with little autos like the LCP. It allows for a very firm grip so you can focus on deliberately controlling the trigger, and it helps control recoil: 
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what does he know about shooting? Quoted: Quoted: It does magnify any mistakes you make. Yup. Jerry Miculek uses a particular grip for J frame revolvers that works well with little autos like the LCP. It allows for a very firm grip so you can focus on deliberately controlling the trigger, and it helps control recoil: http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/MICULEK2/Jerry2-6.gif |
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It does magnify any mistakes you make. Yup. Jerry Miculek uses a particular grip for J frame revolvers that works well with little autos like the LCP. It allows for a very firm grip so you can focus on deliberately controlling the trigger, and it helps control recoil: http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/MICULEK2/Jerry2-6.gif Probably obvious but worth noting: if one is gonna adopt that grip for a small semi-auto, make damn sure that the support hand thumb is out of the way of the moving slide. If you do it wrong, you will know pretty much right away. 
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Quoted: I was told not to dry fire the LCP, that it could break something. Any truth in this? If it is anything like the Kel-Tec P3AT internally (and from schematics I have seen, I would say it is), dry-firing without snapcaps causes the firing pin to travel too far forward and strike the firing pin retaining screw. Dry-firing with a good snapcap, such as the A-Zoom, will alleviate this. Edited to add: it looks like the LCP uses a roll pin to retain the firing pin, but I think a snapcap should still be used: http://bp3.blogger.com/_XCkTSf0swcQ/R6YBwNf3DrI/AAAAAAAABV8/jkNvlgGinHM/s1600/specscomparison.jpg |
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Probably obvious but worth noting: if one is gonna adopt that grip for a small semi-auto, make damn sure that the support hand thumb is out of the way of the moving slide. If you do it wrong, you will know pretty much right away.
That was my first concern when pondering it, but the Ruger LCP sits so high in the hand and the slide is so short that unless you have weirdly configured hands you should be safe. The goal is to get the weak thumb behind the base joint of the dominant thumb. If you do that you won't get bit. 
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| My LCP took some practice also to get my groups decent but also remember the LCP and others like it are not meant for pinpoint shooting for me if I'm using my LCP it is because my G19 is out of ammo or i lost it and I need a backup gun for some up close get off me action. But what I hate the front sight on my LCP so i took some white out and painted the front "post" makes it much easier to see but what i really need is glow in the dark paint |
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