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Posted: 7/31/2020 7:20:07 PM EDT
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 I love deliveries! Got the Bar-Sto barrel and Springer comp in for the EVO320. Since it uses a standard Compact slide as opposed to an X-Carry slide with tighter tolerances, no fitting was needed and it dropped right into place.  I did end up going with Springer’s larger three-port compensator as opposed to the “Shorty” comp that’s on the RS320s (Because Fuck Recoil). They say it requires +P or Major PF ammunition to function reliably, but since all I ever shoot is +P/NATO loads I figured I’d be good to go.  The loctite will be left to dry for the next 24 hours and then it should be good to go - No more spontaneous disassembles in the future |
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Posted: 8/2/2020 12:47:03 AM EDT
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 Problem solved, problem staying solved |
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Posted: 8/5/2020 2:09:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/6/2020 3:34:45 PM EDT
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 I’ve reached that point in the build process where it’s time to start accounting for how I’m actually going to carry this monstrosity.  Oh yeah, I meant it when I said I intended this to be my new EDC gun. Phlster’s the one to make that happen... |
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Posted: 8/6/2020 9:47:32 PM EDT
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After quite a bit of consideration, I believe I’ve arrived at the decision to begin the process of converting the pair of RS320s over to the EVO320 spec. I much prefer the frame-mounted RDS setup as well as the heavier metal grip module and it would be helpful to get a jump-start on the funds to both finish building the first EVO320 and begin acquiring components for a duplicate backup gun. Thanks to the nature of the platform, I can keep the FCUs from the RS320s and sell the complete upper and lower assemblies as a kind of RS320 X-Change kit - Buyers will just have to add their FCU and go
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:13:45 AM EDT
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On second thought I think I’ll just upgrade the RS320s and give them each an Icarus Precision Tactical Carry aluminum grip with Springer magwells, but otherwise keep them as they are. I’m a bit indecisive sometimes...
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:24:21 AM EDT
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I’m also fairly certain the EVO320 will get the X-Carry IP swapped out for a Tactical Carry IP grip module at some point in the future. The X-Carry grip is great and it was what was available at the time, but I know from experience with RS320A I significantly prefer the ergonomics of the standard P320 grip modules over the X-Series grips, and the Tactical Carry IP grip has ergonomics more like the standard P320 grip modules. With that in mind I likely won’t spend the time or money having my gunsmith graft the 2011 magwell to the X-Carry grip module and save that money to go towards the future Tactical Carry grip module with Springer magwell
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Posted: 8/9/2020 3:50:34 PM EDT
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If anyone has a line on anywhere that might have some 9mm NATO ammo in stock and would be so nice as to pass a note, I could use some to start trials on the EVO320 with the new barrel/comp/recoil assembly...
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Posted: 8/9/2020 5:43:09 PM EDT
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I will keep my eyes open I cruise the web for ammo just about every day.
Always look forward to your updates |
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Posted: 8/11/2020 4:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will keep my eyes open I cruise the web for ammo just about every day. Always look forward to your updates Much appreciated! In the short term my brother has a few boxes to spare and he owes me more than a couple hundred rounds. Should be going to the range this Friday to put some rounds through the EVO320 and the new setup |
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Posted: 8/11/2020 7:06:37 PM EDT
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 Got the Floodlight in. As expected the RS320 fit with no issue in stock form - The EVO320...Not so much.  But that was also as expected. I removed the elastic strap to get a rough idea of where the cut lines need to be and it appears it’ll be fairly straightforward. Once clearance for the optic mount is made, I can reconnect the slide side of the holster using the mix of spare hardware I’ve collected.  This just might work after all... |
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Posted: 8/12/2020 1:03:11 AM EDT
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Viewers who are prone to queasiness or those with weak dispositions may want to look away...Now:
 Initial rough cuts to accommodate the optic mount are done (emphasis on rough). I’ll be going over the holster over the next couple days with a file and sandpaper to smooth out the rough edges and sharp corners.  But as of today, I have an AIWB holster that holds and retains the EVO320. I may find something a bit more robust than the paracord to join the muzzle end of the holster - I’m thinking a small zip tie would do well for this role - but at this point it’s just smoothing out the details 
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Posted: 8/12/2020 9:14:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/13/2020 3:46:42 AM EDT
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You being wrong handed
 , have you thought about a gas peddle to work on the left side? I've got a 3D printer coming soon, this is one of the things I've been thinking about. I'm a righty but the challenge interests me.
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Posted: 8/13/2020 8:07:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryDang that's alot of package to hide  Quoted: You being wrong handed , have you thought about a gas peddle to work on the left side? I've got a 3D printer coming soon, this is one of the things I've been thinking about. I'm a righty but the challenge interests me.Recently I have been intrigued by the gas pedal thing. Haven't pulled the trigger on one yet. When I think of one for a left handed shooter my first thoughts are to drill and thread the right side of the takedown lever. Machine a slot in it so a 3D printed part can be bolted to it and it wouldnt rotate unless the takedown lever was intentionally rotated. Just an idea of course I have no experience with 3D printing. |
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Posted: 8/13/2020 8:10:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang that's alot of package to hide Recently I have been intrigued by the gas pedal thing. Haven't pulled the trigger on one yet. When I think of one for a left handed shooter my first thoughts are to drill and thread the right side of the takedown lever. Machine a slot in it so a 3D printed part can be bolted to it and it wouldnt rotate unless the takedown lever was intentionally rotated. Just an idea of course I have no experience with 3D printing. That was pretty much the approach I was going to take. |
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Posted: 8/13/2020 8:32:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was pretty much the approach I was going to take. Any plans to make other parts? Just out of curiosity. |
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Posted: 8/13/2020 10:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang that's alot of package to hide Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang that's alot of package to hide She’s a hefty bitch but I like ‘em chunky No actually in the short amount of time I tried carrying the gun around at home last night it was honestly surprisingly comfortable - more manageable even than the RS320 with a spare mag in the T1C Axis sidecar holster. Doesn’t get in my way for moving around, sitting, or bending over.Quoted: You being wrong handed , have you thought about a gas peddle to work on the left side? I've got a 3D printer coming soon, this is one of the things I've been thinking about. I'm a righty but the challenge interests me.I have actually thought a bit about how one would go about making a gas pedal for southpaws, and with the Icarus Precision grip module it wouldn’t be any more challenging than drilling and tapping the right side of the dustcover and bolting one on in a mirror image to the optic mount on the left side of the grip, as some lefties do with their 2011 competition blasters. For a standard grip module, probably drilling and tapping the right side of the takedown lever would locate it in about the same spot as the Go Guns thumb rest for righties. That said a thumb rest is not in my plans for this pistol, as it would add additional bulk to the pistol which would make it more difficult to carry concealed (and give me even more headache with finding a compatible holster). A member on another forum pointed out that the soft loops are printing a bit and recommended swapping them for some Discreet Carry Concepts clips. I was thinking about that myself, but my current plan is to try the soft loops for a bit and then consider changing them. One issue I’m already seeing is going to be re-holstering without removing the holster from my pants. Since I removed a significant amount of structural support to make clearance for the optic mount, the slide side of the holster collapses a bit under the pressure of my belt when the gun is drawn and it causes the muzzle to get caught up on attempting to re-holster it (all manipulations have been done with an empty gun for the time being for safety). The holster still grabs and holds the X300U more than well enough to retain the gun for carrying though. I love it when a plan comes together 
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Posted: 8/18/2020 12:56:57 PM EDT
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I went in a slightly different direction than OP but I think its in the spirit of this thread enough to post.
 Attached FileIt has a Grey Ghost Precision compact slide paired with a Parker Mountain Machine Ultra JTTC compensator and barrel, an Apex trigger and trigger bar under a Wilson Combat grip module, Dawson sights and a Leupold DPP, and TTI +5 base pads. I put Armory Craft tungsten weights in the grip and replaced the CR123s in the surefire with tungsten weights for more front ballast. The gun is a bit front heavy empty and balances nicely fully loaded. |
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Posted: 8/19/2020 10:19:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/19/2020 1:33:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went in a slightly different direction than OP but I think its in the spirit of this thread enough to post. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20200818_112333__2__jpg-1551843.JPG It has a Grey Ghost Precision compact slide paired with a Parker Mountain Machine Ultra JTTC compensator and barrel, an Apex trigger and trigger bar under a Wilson Combat grip module, Dawson sights and a Leupold DPP, and TTI +5 base pads. I put Armory Craft tungsten weights in the grip and replaced the CR123s in the surefire with tungsten weights for more front ballast. The gun is a bit front heavy empty and balances nicely fully loaded. That camo pattern is so wrong but still so right  Very nice build!
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Posted: 8/19/2020 9:11:47 PM EDT
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEF2Y6TpLX7/?igshid=7uwphzue8vdy
The best part of filming your practice sessions is getting to go back and watch all your glorious fuck-ups in excruciating frame-by-frame detail. I see a few points that need to be smoothed out here, but I think that’s mostly due to not being fully familiar and comfortable with the new pistol/holster combination yet. Time for more reps! |
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Posted: 8/20/2020 9:17:26 PM EDT
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 ...Nobody tell my bank account...(Please) |
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Posted: 8/25/2020 2:54:02 AM EDT
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The current plan is to put the inbound IP Tactical Carry module on RS320A once I get it to see how it handles. Assuming there’s nothing that makes me want to get rid of it (highly unlikely), I’ll then send it out to Springer Precision for fitting and installation of their ESP magwell, like the current polymer Compact modules utilize - I already confirmed with Springer’s head gunsmith that they can install their magwells on the Icarus grip modules the same as the factory polymer units. RS320B will follow suit with the same heavy metal upgrade (in ODG of course), and at some point in the future I’ll swap out the current X-Carry module on the EVO320 for the Tactical Carry+ESP magwell setup (which will be a bit more in-depth since it’ll involve drilling and tapping for the optic mount). That’ll give me ergonomic consistency across all of the platforms.
I’ll also need to convert my four 15-round Compact mags with +2 basepads to 17-round Fullsize mags with the +2 basepads, as the Tactical Carry grip modules won’t accept the Compact magazines. That’s just a matter of buying four more 17-round magazines and swapping the factory plastic basepads for the +2 extensions I already own though. The ESP magwells and +2 extension combination gives me a nearly flush-fit that leads to less printing and easier concealment, even with the slightly longer Fullsize grip length of the Tactical Carry grip module. That will leave me with mag options with 19, 23, and 27-round capacities, all of which will be compatible with all three guns. I also finally have some 9mm NATO FMJ, just need to carve out the time to go to the range and test out the new barrel/comp/DPM recoil system in the EVO320. That should happen at some point this week. I have all my next steps roadmapped, now it’s just a matter of money, effort, and time spent waiting on parts shipping and gunsmithing...The waiting is the worst part |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 12:52:17 PM EDT
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  You know that feeling you sometimes get, where you know you’re about to sneeze but it takes forever to actually happen? This is worse |
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Posted: 8/29/2020 4:52:49 PM EDT
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   Initial impression: Sweet baby Jesus, I’ve found my standard grip module Further/more coherent thoughts after I fondle this a bit more...
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Posted: 8/29/2020 5:55:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2020 7:39:19 PM EDT
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Alright, now that I’ve had a bit more time to handle the new grip module I’ve got some more thoughts.
 For the purposes of this discussion the main focus will be on the actual grip and beavertail portions of the module, as from the trigger guard forward they’re functionally identical.  The first thing I noticed is that the grip texture on the new Tactical Carry module is VASTLY improved over the (non)texture of the X-Carry version. It’s grippier in my hand that even the OEM polymer grip, even without a magwell.  Safe to say that for my hands at least, IP nailed the ergonomics. In that vein, the thinner beavertail of the Tactical Carry module is much better than the X-Carry as well.  It’s narrow, fits the hand more naturally, and most importantly there’s no sharp ledge that digs into my thumb when I grip the gun. This is similar to my experiments and preferences between the OEM polymer standard and X-Series modules. I should mention that Fullsize magazines with TTI extensions do not currently fit the Tactical Carry module due to the shape of the bottom of the grip, which is similar to the OEM polymer modules.  Once I send it to Springer Precision for their ESP magwell though, that won’t be a problem. And the additional grip security afforded by the magwell in combination with the excellent grip texture will make sure these guns stick to my hands like glue 
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Posted: 8/29/2020 7:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt feels even better than it looks  I can’t wait to see how locked-in my grip will be once I add a magwell to the new module
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Posted: 8/29/2020 10:50:28 PM EDT
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While I realize looks are not everything, this new module looks way better. The old grip looks like they were trying to hard to be new and different and in the process totally missed the mark. Pistols are personal and because of this they do have to offer some style to fit the end user IMO.
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Posted: 8/29/2020 10:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went in a slightly different direction than OP but I think its in the spirit of this thread enough to post. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20200818_112333__2__jpg-1551843.JPG It has a Grey Ghost Precision compact slide paired with a Parker Mountain Machine Ultra JTTC compensator and barrel, an Apex trigger and trigger bar under a Wilson Combat grip module, Dawson sights and a Leupold DPP, and TTI +5 base pads. I put Armory Craft tungsten weights in the grip and replaced the CR123s in the surefire with tungsten weights for more front ballast. The gun is a bit front heavy empty and balances nicely fully loaded. I wondered why someone would buy those blue TTI extensions. Now I know. This works in a 1989 kind of way. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:48:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I realize looks are not everything, this new module looks way better. The old grip looks like they were trying to hard to be new and different and in the process totally missed the mark. Pistols are personal and because of this they do have to offer some style to fit the end user IMO. Absolutely agreed. Furthermore, everything that makes the module subjectively better aesthetically is due to all of the changes that make it better functionally, in my opinion. Better grip texture, thinner beavertail, better magwell flare, etc. I’m honestly extremely excited to get this sent out to Springer for their magwell treatment. The additional grip security it will provide along with the easier mag changes will make the Icarus Tactical Carry grip module the best feeling and fitting module that I’ve put my hands on yet |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:54:51 PM EDT
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Based on their web store and Instagram posts, it appears Icarus is phasing out the original X-Carry module and all of the P320 modules they’re offering going forward favor the thinner, better grip texture Tactical Carry style - Which in my opinion is a good move. Their newly released competition module looks like it has an even more aggressive grip texture that extends 360 degrees around the grip as well as down the integrated magwell:
 https://www.icarusprecision.com/product-page/a-c-e-320-pro-competition |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 3:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on their web store and Instagram posts, it appears Icarus is phasing out the original X-Carry module and all of the P320 modules they’re offering going forward favor the thinner, better grip texture Tactical Carry style - Which in my opinion is a good move. Their newly released competition module looks like it has an even more aggressive grip texture that extends 360 degrees around the grip as well as down the integrated magwell: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/185695_873ced7528ef4bbfbdd6b39d479ef9ba~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_640,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/185695_873ced7528ef4bbfbdd6b39d479ef9ba~mv2.jpg https://www.icarusprecision.com/product-page/a-c-e-320-pro-competition I wish the texture went all the way up the grip. I like being able to dig my thumb into that area, this is why the RTF2 texture on the Glock is my favorite texture ever. For some reason though on the P320 everyone has decided to keep that area smooth. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 4:26:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Holy hell...
 This looks incredible. Makes me think of an STI 2011 Only thing I would change is what Charlie_Foxtrot said. Bring that texture all the way up A more aggressive mag release button and an Armory Craft takedown lever would be P320 perfection in my book. |
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Posted: 8/31/2020 2:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went in a slightly different direction than OP but I think its in the spirit of this thread enough to post. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20200818_112333__2__jpg-1551843.JPG It has a Grey Ghost Precision compact slide paired with a Parker Mountain Machine Ultra JTTC compensator and barrel, an Apex trigger and trigger bar under a Wilson Combat grip module, Dawson sights and a Leupold DPP, and TTI +5 base pads. I put Armory Craft tungsten weights in the grip and replaced the CR123s in the surefire with tungsten weights for more front ballast. The gun is a bit front heavy empty and balances nicely fully loaded. Hey, my Cerakote work made it to ARFCOM!!! 
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Posted: 8/31/2020 7:53:27 PM EDT
[#37]
 I just can’t get over how good the RS320 feels with the Tactical Carry grip module. Here’s my revised list of steps for finishing out the current projects, in order: 1. Acquire two more Icarus TC grip modules (ODG for RS320B, Sniper Gray for EVO320) 2. Send all three TC grip modules to Springer for fitting and installation of ESP magwells 3. With the RS320s completed once I get their magwell modules back from Springer, take the third module to my gunsmith for drilling/tapping of the dustcover, re-installation of the optic mount, and installation of the Apex trigger kit 4. All current projects complete, acquire another FCU and move on to whatever ridiculous idea I come up with next... |
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Posted: 9/6/2020 10:41:02 AM EDT
[#38]
I like the plan
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Posted: 9/10/2020 7:15:48 PM EDT
[#39]
 ...and YOU get a metal grip module, and YOU get a metal grip module - EVERYBODY GETS A METAL GRIP MODUUUUULE! |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 11:59:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/16/2020 12:21:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/16/2020 12:10:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Their new design looks so much better.
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Posted: 9/16/2020 1:46:12 PM EDT
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This is gunna be good.
I am in love with their Ace Pro Competition but I cant talk myself into buying one. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 5:17:00 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Their new design looks so much better. Agreed, the ergonomics are much better in the hand as well. The new design is what I and others were pushing them to make first instead of the original X-Carry version. You can lead a horse to water... |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 5:10:24 PM EDT
[#45]
 Some days one delivery makes up for all the junk mail that gets jammed into the box every year.  Black, ODG, and Sniper Gray all accounted for. I was a bit worried the ODG would be too vibrant for my tastes but it matches the OEM ODG polymer grip module very well.  Next step is to send these off to Springer Precision to get magwell’d up. But first I’m gonna fondle them a bit more... 
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Posted: 9/27/2020 10:12:53 PM EDT
[#46]
 Feel the reloads, feel the grind - Get on up, it’s magwell time! |
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Posted: 9/29/2020 9:31:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Grip modules are in the mail. Starting the countdown to when I get back my Icarus-Springer Precisions (Precision Squared?) perfected grips!
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Posted: 10/9/2020 2:30:08 PM EDT
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 Range time with the EVO320 coming up tomorrow with my brother. It’ll be the first time testing the Springer Open comp and the DPM recoil system together - Video, pics, and report to follow! |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 7:54:44 PM EDT
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Just got back from the range and I’m extremely pleased to report...Well:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGLn9uDppDR/?igshid=1fiqn2jou72bd  This comp and spring make the gun shoot so flat and soft with 9mm NATO it approaches dedicated USPSA Open gun territory, and it ran 100% reliably with no malfunctions to speak of.  I’m incredibly pleased with the performance of the top end, and now I’m even more excited to get the Icarus TC grip module back and get it all transferred over to that for the superior ergonomics |
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Posted: 10/15/2020 11:25:40 PM EDT
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 It was getting to be about time to replace the recoil spring on the RS320A, and while I was replacing parts I decided to opt for an upgrade. I liked the feeling and function of the DPM spring system in the EVO320 so much I bought one for each of the RS320s. Optics Planet shipped the one they had in stock, the second one for RS320B should be here in about a week. A build is never truly finished... |
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