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4/9/2003 12:36:54 AM EDT
Went shooting this afternoon with a USP 45 Fullsize. I was shooting Wolf ammo and ran into a failure to eject situation. But my problem seems a little more complicated. I can't get it to extract. The slide won't come back more than 1/4'' or so which isn't even far enough to take the pistol apart.

Any suggestions?

Oz
4/9/2003 3:49:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Is there a fired case still in the chamber? If so, it is probably a combination of the laquer build-up from the steel cases and an expanded case...maybe slightly over-pressure, who knows? (It is, after all, Russian QC...or is that an oxymoron?)

The technique used is to grasp the slide firmly with your weak hand while holding the pistol over a soft surface (in case you drop it) and "slap" the strong hand...hard...against the gripstrap in a firing position (finger off the trigger, of course) this will usually dislodge the case after one or two trys. If not, don't keep beating yourself and your gun up...get it to a 'smith.

Afterward, write 1000 times "I will not use Wolf ammo in my H&K" and buy some American Eagle.
4/9/2003 4:16:44 AM EDT
[#2]
You might also want to spray the crap out of it with Break-free. Try to get the laquer out of the gun. And then, NEVER use wolf in a USP again......Bad dog.
4/9/2003 7:25:46 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Went shooting this afternoon with a USP 45 Fullsize. I was shooting Wolf ammo and ran into a failure to eject situation. But my problem seems a little more complicated. I can't get it to extract. The slide won't come back more than 1/4'' or so which isn't even far enough to take the pistol apart.

Any suggestions?

Oz

You don't have a USP 45 problem, you have a Wolf (junk) ammo problem.
4/9/2003 7:28:42 AM EDT
[#4]
JFHC!!!

Why in the world would you buy a gun like the USP and then feed it that shit?

That's like buying an AMG Mercedes and filling it up with old nasty gasoline out of a farm tank and bitching because it doesn't run right.

HAy-sus!

/rant
4/9/2003 11:35:31 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
JFHC!!!

Why in the world would you buy a gun like the USP and then feed it that shit?

That's like buying an AMG Mercedes and filling it up with old nasty gasoline out of a farm tank and bitching because it doesn't run right.

HAy-sus!

/rant



Everyone says try the wolf ammo to see if it works for you...well it didn't for me but I was brave enough to try it.

Thanks for the tips, I will let you know.

Oz
4/9/2003 11:43:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Oz--My USP compact .45 will eat any and all ammo EXCEPT Wolf and AquilaIQ.  It did the exact same thing you're describing--jammed a live round halfway into the chamber and stayed there nice and snug.  I had to resort to using a rubber mallet to send the slide home (YIKES)--of course keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction--and then firing the offending round.
It worked for me--though IKOR's advice seems a bit more prudent.
4/9/2003 6:16:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Get a gun smith to look at it, if you do it yourself you could damage the gun.  Also wolf ammo is not known for its quality, I would suggest going for something of higher quality than that.
4/10/2003 9:37:32 AM EDT
[#8]
Simple soultion (I've had it happen to my USP .45).

Press in on the back of the extractor to release it from the casing.  Pull back slide and lock it.  Then use a dowel to knock out the stuck case.  Then beat yourself over the head with your fine weapon until you learn not to feed it shit anymore.
4/10/2003 10:42:20 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Simple soultion (I've had it happen to my USP .45).

Press in on the back of the extractor to release it from the casing.  Pull back slide and lock it.  Then use a dowel to knock out the stuck case.  Then beat yourself over the head with your fine weapon until you learn not to feed it shit anymore.



Thanks for all the fine ideas. This was the one that worked. Thanks.

Oz
4/10/2003 11:11:49 AM EDT
[#10]
BTW, I should add that I was joking about the "feed it shit" thing.  As stated, I did the same thing.

Wolf ammo and HK .45's is not a good combination.  The tighter chambers lead to fine accuracy with normal ammo...but major problems with Wolf.

I had about 5 stuck cases before I sold off the remaining 700 rounds of Wolf for a steal.
4/10/2003 11:15:00 AM EDT
[#11]
Well at 8 dollars a box it, up untill yesterday, beat the 12-15 dollar boxes of other stuff I had shot in it. I have shot a total of 175 rounds of it and was pleased with the results untill the other day.

What is a good cheap, non wolf ammo to shoot?

oz
4/10/2003 10:28:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Oz,
Try looking at Sellier & Bellot for range ammo.  My USPf 40 loves it and I've heard good things from others as well.

Mark
4/11/2003 6:53:34 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Try looking at Sellier & Bellot for range ammo.  



I've would recommend the same.  My H&K and Kimbers all love it.
4/15/2003 9:50:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Take a hot frypan, pour varnish in it, lay a spatula firmly on the bottom of the pan.

Then immerse the whole mess in ice-water with the spatula firmly on the bottom of the pan.

What duh ya figure might happen?

This is what you have done to one of the finnest pistols on the planet.

Why do people DO this shit?
4/15/2003 10:05:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Ya..well I fixed it as stated above.

Oz
4/15/2003 11:30:19 PM EDT
[#16]
I was using crappy reloaded wad cutters. This happened to me and this is an excellent rick to get it done. It took me a few minutes at the range but I figured it out. And you know what man, forget what everybody tells you about crap ammo. Use what you want, you know your financial situation and only you can spend your money. I used to treat my Ar like a baby. Now I realized that if I keep doing that im never gonna just have fun with the thing. Now I take the Ar and set it up against a tree in with the stock in the mud when I go camping. You only live once man, f@ck as much things up as you can. By the way, I shoot Wolf out of my Ar all the time. My HK just wont take it.
4/17/2003 10:57:52 PM EDT
[#17]
CCI aluminum cases work in my G21.

I think Im going to swap out to an HK though.
4/18/2003 6:57:38 PM EDT
[#18]
I was shooting my USP 45 with a freind who was shooting his Springfeild 1911 when he said "Go ahead and try the Wolf, its okay".  Anyway, I was fortunate.  The Wolf jammed my USP on the first round.  I had, at that time, more 1k rnds through the USP without a hicup until then.  Never again.  Wolf is the shit in my AKs, but NOTHING else.
4/18/2003 11:10:42 PM EDT
[#19]
I used the CCI Blazer Ammo on USP 45 and USP 40 without any problems yesterday. Wow, it does have some Ump to it! Felt great to shoot it. S&B & PMC work great. AE OK.

USP 9 - Cheap WALMART Winchester bulk Ammo. PMP, S&B and PMC was good id good too

Definately stay off WOLF on USPs

Wolf works great of my Para's and Custom Colts. $6.00 a box plus shipping saves me money.

But Wolf is no on USP 40 and USP 45 - Not fun to see USP jam like that!
4/19/2003 7:06:19 AM EDT
[#20]
My H&K Tactical hates Wolf, it will freeze it up, but I have another friend with a Tactical and his .45 can eat Wolf all day. I must own a barrel with a tight chamber.
4/19/2003 10:23:07 AM EDT
[#21]
I love wolf in my AK.  Wouldn't use the stuff in much else.  Sellier and Bellot isn't much more expensive and always worked great in my USP tactical.  Currently I am using American Eagle ammunition and like it a lot.  Doesn't make sense to buy such a fine gun and feed it crap.  Treat your USP right and it will probably still be shooting fine the day you die.