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12/24/2009 9:25:45 PM EDT
I hear a lot of people talk about Glock reliability but what is it about their design that makes them more reliable than the average handgun? Would you say they are more reliable than the average handgun, in general?
12/24/2009 9:27:20 PM EDT
[#1]


My G17 sure wasn't. Stovepipe queen with all types of ammo, no matter how rigid or limp I held it.
Your results may vary.
12/24/2009 9:44:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Only baby Jesus knows why but they are.

My Sigs have all been reliable also, but they sure as hell weren't $500 and they don't point as well for me.

I've only owned one pistol that wouldn't work for me.  Kimber 1911
12/24/2009 11:11:20 PM EDT
[#3]
The two most trustworthy guns I have ever owned, Glock 23, and a Sig 226.  I've had the Glock for about 10 years now.  It's had one extractor go bad at a defensive pistol class.  It still ran about 90% with a broken extractor.

-Mark.

12/25/2009 2:37:29 AM EDT
[#4]
I would say a big factor is its relatively low surface area of contact points between the slide and the frame. Those frame rails have less contact surface area than any other pistol I've field stripped. This combined with their relative lubrication insensitivity as compared to other brands, in my opinion, contributes to their overall reliability.

None of this is to say that there aren't many other brands that are very reliable (but don't necessarily have the traits described above).
12/25/2009 2:45:02 AM EDT
[#5]
I was thinking about this earlier. Glocks are great guns, but I wonder how many of the Glocks actually sold (Sold, issued, etc) actually see much hard use? I see lots of guns for sale that are a few years old that only have 100-500 rounds down the pipe. That's not even broken in!

I've decided that I'm starting a 10,000 round club. I've decided that I'm going to put 10,000 rounds through my XD(M)9 and see just how well it performs. Then another 10,000. Then another. Until that fucker dies. It might take me 20 years, but I'm going to find out what reliability is all about.

I might buy a G21 to try it out with too. Maybe make it to 100,000!
12/25/2009 3:02:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I have a G19 with an auto sear that has been run for about 3 years now. We have put over 18,000 rounds through it.

The only part that has been replaced several times is the recoil rod assembly.

We run it till it gets VERY hot then put it in cold water, then go back to shoot it.

This G19 has only been cleaned once in this whole time.  The carbon build up acts as lube.

We beat the hell out of it and it keeps going.

12/25/2009 4:39:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I have a G19 with an auto sear <snip>


And of this, I am jealous.
12/25/2009 10:15:37 AM EDT
[#8]
imo: simplicity of design, QUALITY made parts, and properly designed componets made for rough wear
12/25/2009 12:10:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Their reliability is due to the minimal amount of parts used, and chamber size.  The Glock OEM barrel has an oversized chamber compared to other manufacturers.  This allows for a greater variation in ammo OAL and bullet shape.  This is also the reason why it is important to shoot quality ammo in a Glock.  Reloads or remanufactured ammo with weakened cases can split easier in the Glocks chamber.  Bigger chamber equals less chamber support.
12/25/2009 1:30:02 PM EDT
[#10]
Hence the very high numbers of KABOOMS in Glocks.

That said my G36 remains one of my favorite hand guns.
12/25/2009 1:54:50 PM EDT
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Hence the very high numbers of KABOOMS in Glocks.





Internet nonsense.




 
 
12/25/2009 5:17:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Reality is a hard pill to swallow, especially for Glock fan boys.

12/25/2009 5:23:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
imo: simplicity of design, QUALITY made parts, and properly designed componets made for rough wear


Absolutely this.

I wouldn't say they're any MORE reliable than any other good quality design that's been out there for a while (Beretta 92F, Sig P226, etc.)  but they certainly are in the top in that area.

Uniform manufacturing process, loose tolerances, engineering simplicity, all that.  Just very well designed and well made in my experience.
12/26/2009 1:30:46 PM EDT
[#14]
To add to the above, Tenifer finish,
Meaning the steel parts are not going to rust, and only the bare amount of lube is used on the pistol (bearing area, and not used to prevent rusting).


Bottom line is it's a very simple design without a lot of parts to go south/bad, light pistol for carry,  and what makes the pistol so attractive.

For me, it's grip angle is less than ideal, but when it comes to wet environments, it seconds to none in reliability and Resistances to rusting and why I have one for carry.
12/26/2009 1:39:37 PM EDT
[#15]
my thoughts...

1. striker fired (no hammer and exposure)
2. fewer moving parts
3. limited slide/rail interface
4. quality magazines (the glock ones anyways)
5. good materials
6. built for reliability first