Posted: 7/11/2013 9:40:40 AM EDT
Hello All 
I am currently in the market for a guide rod and stronger spring for my G 29. I will be using "full power" 10mm loads (Underwood) for range and carry and I don't want to beat the hell out of my Glock. Can anyone advise as to the highest weight spring to use with these loads without losing reliability? Also would rather have a "captured" set-up. Thanks in advance for any input! Update - Just called The Glock Store and they have a "captured" set-up with either a 19, 21 or 23 lb. spring. Factory is 17lb. I'm thinking 21lb. Any advice? |
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Keep it stock is the best advice!
How much high power shooting are you really going to do? 10mm is in the $30 range for ball ammo, $30 for 20 rnds of quality defensive rounds..... .....do the math, and keep it simple! Stock/Glock! Do you reload, that would be the only thing that might change my mind.... but again do you really want to shoot full power loads all the time? ~g |
| I do reload, but to the lower end of the power scale for 10mm. Wouldn't want to use high power reloads for carry - liability problems with that! I will practice several times a year with the ammo I will be carring - the responsible thing to do IMHO. So, I was thinking stock spring for high-volume low power range work and heavy spring (on target faster shot to shot) for practice and carry with full power ammo. |
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Wouldn't want to use high power reloads for carry - liability problems with that! I will practice several times a year with the ammo I will be carring - the responsible thing to do IMHO.. Curious by what you meant about the liability issues? I practice monthly with my carry gun, including carry ammo. I'd guess on average I probably put 200 rnds a month through my carry gun, and cycle carry ammo on a monthly basis. Not sure twice a year buys you much... YMMV! ~g |
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On the advice of a few good legal consultants in my area, using “hand loads” for personal protection opens up a linty of problems if court proceedings are necessary in the case of a self defense act. Same reason trigger work or replacement can be issues as well. Use this info or not, it's up to you. With excellent ammo like Underwood available, I feel confident in using factory loads. I do practice "several" time a year with my carry ammo meaning four to five times/year. Great idea on ammo rotation, admittedly, I do not rotate my ammo as much as I should.
Will kyp on new guide rod & spring when I receive it, fyi
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I've heard similar stuff about "hand loads" for defense, but I've only seen one case were it seemed to be an issue.... and it had nothing to do with a hot load, it was more of technical argument made by the prosecutor and their expert witness. Same with trigger, let's just say I've now got a <4lb trigger pull... but in the course of the defending my life I fire 3-6 rnds.... would a reasonable person think that I accidentally fired 3-6 shots because of "light" trigger.
The crappy part about practice/rotate is the cost, as we all know defensive ammo isn't cheap (I don't reload carry ammo either, for the record)... I like snagging a couple of 50 rnd boxes when I can, been able to track down a steady supply of .40 HST, which I like a lot. One thing to keep in mind also, is that with shorter barrel you will surely lose some velocity (double tap usually provides fps data for both Glock 10mm barrel sizes, ironically), and you will more than likely see a much larger muzzle flash from hot stuff out of the G29. On the range, it doesn't matter..... but for carry it does come into play for some. Personally I didn't find it annoying enough to change what I carried in the G29. ~g |
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Just arrived today is my new Wolff 21 lb. recoil spring and guide rod set. Fit is excellent. I will be going to the range in the next few days with several Underwood loads as well as some Federal, Remmington and Winchester loads. Will aslo put a few handloads down the pipe
Will be interesting to see if the increase of 4 lb. spring load will hamper the function of the factory loads besides the Underwood. I suspect there will be some FTF & FTE. I'll keep everyonr posted! |
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Hello All!
Back with a range report
I have installed a Wolff guide rod & spring @ 21lb. in my G29. I touched off about 200 rds down range with a mixed bag of ammo. I shot Doubletap 180gr, Underwood 135gr, 180gr. & 200gr, and Remmington 180gr. I also sent out some 180gr re-loads. I had 1 FTF with each of my first two mags. The rest were runn'in great. Both FTF were with Doubletap. However, future mags w/ Doubletap were a non-issue. The 29 shot well and was very controlable. Did notice one thing interesting. The Remmington and re-load spent cases were only a few feet away with some landing even closer. The Underwood and Doubletap cases were all 15ft or greater away! Very noticeable the step up in re-coil with loads from these two companies 
Next time at the range, I'll bring stock guide rod & spring fore a little "side by side" test for felt recoil and follow-up shot speed and accuracy. |