Posted: 4/1/2008 7:15:39 PM EDT
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Bought a model 27 on Sunday and immediately went to the range. First course of fire was the standard 7 yards and punched in with a 1" group just to the left of the bull happy So now it's time to play. The range I was at in Athens has Silhouettes at the 50yd mark. I chose to test myself on a plate that is approx 15" x 20". Shot number 1....TING!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!! I couldn't stop laughing. I ended up hitting 4 out of 5 on both of the magazines I ran through it...laughing the whole time. ( I was shooting from a right hand barracade mind you. ) I cannot believe that this subcompact pistol with combat sights would/could shoot that well! I am impressed and have lots o confidence in this piece. Just for the record the ammo was reloaded by my pop....180gr FMJ --- 4.5gr winchester 231 --- federal primer |
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Are there any loads that any of you have found that this weapon REALLY likes. Obviously it likes the 180gr loads my dad has but is there something the community has found to be the best?? I never thought I would be asking this question about a sub-compact self defense weapon!!! But it definitely is much more accurate than I expected. I have added Pearce 26xl extensions to the mags...what other modifications do y'all recommend?? |
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First, congrats on the new gun. Its always fun. Some will be aliong shortly to tell you to avoid reloads in .40. Especially those that someone else loads and measures for you. Ther have been some issues with the Glock 40 cal and reloads. PS. If you think the 27 is fun and easy to shoot, buy a 19 next. Yoiu will be glad you did. Good luck. |
The majority of Glock Kb!'s (KaBoom!'s) have been from the .40 versions. There is speculation that it is a result of the chamber not being fully supported. Some will say "never use reloads" others will tell you they've shot tens of thousands of reloads with no issues. It's really up to you, just be careful and make sure every round is in spec. Glocks also use polygonal rifling in their barrels so jacketed rounds are highly recommended (to avoid "leading" the barrel and possibly increasing pressure). Again a subject to which there is ongoing debate. I like to err on the side of caution so I wouldn't fire non-jacketed rounds out of my stock barrel. However many aftermarket companies make traditionally rifled barrels for Glocks that can shoot lead. As for the 19... it's my (and many others) favorite Glock. It's chambered for the 9mm cartridge which is what the gun was originally designed around. I own a 19, 34, and 17L and have fired many others (17, 21, 23, 26, 32, 34, and 36) and I still find the 19 to be the best overall in terms of fit, balance, ergonomics, and recoil. YMMV, but it's worth trying one out if you get a chance. Oh and just to throw in my $.02: don't change anything on the gun but the sights (and get a bunch of spare mags). Stick with Glock mags only. Enjoy! |
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Thanks Nate! I was out doing some searching on the web after I read the preious posts and did see how the aftermarket barrels support the casing better than the stock barrel. Makes sense to me now!! I had read about using only the jaketed stuff in the glock barrels due to the "leading" of the barrel. I have thousands of loads that my pop and I have put together that are FMJ's but y'all have made me leary. I know the Dillon that dad has is very accurate and the casings are only once fired but y'all are still makin me think twice... |
Congrats on your choice of guns, Forget the 19 buyine one would be down right stupid since you already own a 27. If you buy anything go buy a 23. Its also a 40SW and the mags from the 23 also fit in your 27. Becareful using reloads, I have shot about 3k worth of reloads through my G23 and It eats them like candy. If you want to get some HOT factory loads get some Winchester silvertips. They are about as powerful of a 40SW carry round as you can get. |
Being quite happy with that and only planning on putting another 25 or so rounds down range I put 10 into a target at 15yds and was able to keep things around an inch and a half or so. Now I am suprised!!
I only shoot reloads in my glocks. I do use a KKM barrel. It just gives me a little piece of mind. Lone wolf makes a great one as well. If you like the 27, you will love the 19 or 23!!! You should try them. |
I use a threaded Lone Wolf on my 19 for my suppressor. I can't speak of reloads, but the fit and function are great. By eye the chamber support looks nearly identical to the stock barrel, but that's only by eye. |
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I've heard the Sub Compact Glocks were very accurate, but wow, that's awesome... at 50 yards! :) Stick with the G27 if you like it. Don't listen to the 9mm fanboy! lol jk, but try the others out if you want... of course. Check out GlockTalk.com forums, for a multitude of Glock info and advice, while you're at it. And yes, steer clear of using lead bullets... the Glovk barrel just doesn't like those; the lead shavings build up in the barrel, and can create very high pressures, and thus KABOOM! This might be the main reason for many 'kB's' out there today: uninformed users not knowing what and what not to feed their Glocks! |
 standard glock rant below:If it's going to be used for defense, do the following: 1) Replace shitty stock glock sights with proper steel sights (preferably night sights, preferably XS Big Dot sights )* 2) Don't f**k with the standard parts beyond the sights. Extended slide stops, mag releases, trigger weights and all the other thousands of aftermarket accessories are crap will make the gun less reliable. 3) Personally, I'm a fan of the 9mm glocks - specifically the Glock 19. The .40 round has a severe pressure curve that breaks guns (glocks as well as others) and I don't shoot it as well as 9 or 45. 4) Use FACTORY Glock parts - no aftermarket stuff (except the sights) 5) Get a good holster (Comp-Tac CTAC or Blade Tech IWB. have a lot of users that swear by them). I like the CTAC. I also picked up a Raven Concealment Systems holster and mag carrier - very slick, comfortable design and I like it a lot. It may be replacing the CTAC. 6) Get good self defense ammo and run at least a box through your gun to check for reliability (some guns are notoriously finicky with ammo - I have heard of VERY few glocks with ammo sensitivity issues FWIW) Look HERE for "Best Choices for Self-Defense Ammunition" 7) Get some formal training with a decent firearms school. IM me if you'd like some recommendations. 8) Glocks are the "AK" of handguns - they tend to work very reliably and go down a lot less than other types of handguns. They ARE man-made mechanical devices and they can break, have jams and get screwed up. This is why #7 is SO important - so you know what to do IF and WHEN something shitty happens. 9) What breaks on Glocks? anything can - I keep a complete spare parts kit in my range bag - springs, extractor, recoil assembly - basically any small parts I can think of 10) Wash, Rinse, Repeat. *Why Big Dot Sights? I've done a lot of Force on Force exercises and scenarios as a student and as a roleplayer. We've used converted Glock 17s - 2 of them with Big Dots and one of them with Meprolight night sights. By the end of day 1, NO ONE wants to use the standard night sights. Under stress (even the mock stress of FOF) the eye has a LOT of trouble focusing on your front sight. With the Big Dot, it provides a MUCH better reference point for where your gun is oriented and where you're going to make hits. How to use XS Big Dots - Video Distance Shooting with XS Big Dots XS Sight Install |
Dont forget now that was not free hand...it was from a barracade height=8
No worries...this is my 5th .40!! No 9's in the arsenalheight=8
Ya I joined there too! Tons o info!! THANKS MAN!!!!!!!!! |
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Now this is a nice piece of leather!! WOWOWOW!! http://www.mitchrosen.com/product_line/holsters/shoulder_holsters/style.jpg |
The Rosen is nice, although I run a Galco. They all do it wrong. The verticle mag pouches are a hazard. I dare you to reach the back magazine in a hurry. You need to cant the pouch forward quite a bit so you can reach the things. I have just dumped the verticle mag pouches for a horizontal one that Galco is now making. If you don't intend to reload out of those pouches that's great. They look cool and hide well, but they don't work well. At least not for reloading. |
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I own a Galco shoulder rig and a Rosen. In the interest of full disclosure, I don't routinely carry either one--I'm really an IWB man. That said, there is no comparison. The point about the mag pouches is a good one, but not terribly important in my opinion. The great thing about the Rosen rig is that it stays put and is really comfortable to wear without any tie downs. You just don't need them. I find the Galco rig with the tie downs to be really uncomfortable. Also, the fit and finish of the Rosen rig is far superior to Galco in my opinion. Again, I'm really an IWB man. |
I like this guy...! My just aquired 27 is my 8th 40, I have purchassed and 6th in current inventory Forget about those other pussy calibers... 
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I Like the Galco Under Deep Cover leather IWB for my 27. Did you not find this one confortable. The Rosen ones look like artwork, but my Galco was only $75. |