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Posted: 5/20/2003 3:03:01 PM EST
Saw a COLT 9mm 1911 in Spain and was wondering if they sell them here in the US in 9mm NATO?

Link Posted: 5/20/2003 3:08:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2003 3:08:34 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Not any more. They used to make 9mm Commanders
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 3:53:01 PM EST
Thanks Lumpy

Does any other gun companies still make 9MM 1911 types?

Link Posted: 5/20/2003 3:57:27 PM EST
Springfield Armory & Les Baer do. A few more that I cant think of probably do also.
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 4:25:23 PM EST
Yeah Springfield makes a nice 9mm. I've fired one and it was great. Good accuracy, nice feel, good balance. Just if you buy after market rubber rap around grips check to make sure that you seated the magazine all the way.
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 9:44:19 PM EST
I have a Springfield Govt in 9mm. I don't know if Para or Kimber makes any or not.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 2:52:11 AM EST
Colt made both the standard Govt model and the Commander in 9mm.

Auto-ord used to make one.

Springfield does currently make one.

You can get aftermarket parts fairly easy to just make one yourself, but you need a whole top half and an ejector. Colt actually sold complete conversion kits for 9mm and later for 9x23.

Colt has also chambered the govt model in 9mm Steyr.

I've never shot one, but you have to figure a 9mm Govt Model would be a pleasent shooting gun.

Colt has made all sorts of oodball chambered products for overseas markets. I even have an AR-15A2 in .222Rem.

Link Posted: 5/21/2003 8:31:08 PM EST
This one from STI is COOL.

Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:09:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 9:09:52 AM EST by Zardoz]

I've never shot one, but you have to figure a 9mm Govt Model would be a pleasent shooting gun.
A long time ago, I had a series 70 Gov't model in 9mm, and it was a joy to shoot! Hit at point of aim right out of the box, and never once malfuctioned. Being an idiot, I traded it for a P38...

Edited for punctuation.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:58:10 PM EST
Speaking of oddball firearms made for overseas sales keep an eye open in the back of the Shotgun News ads for SW 39 and 59 Series pistols in 7.65 auto or 380... They were made for the same "caliber restricted" markets as the 380 Glocks.

I saw a pic once of the 7.65 39s... a big gun for such a little bullet!

Believe it or not 7.65 was once considered a "manstopper" over there. Actually European Police agencies shot to wound instead of "kill" but then again they kept subguns in their cars for back up w/o a second thought. Go figure.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 5:47:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By MHPDblue:
Believe it or not 7.65 was once considered a "manstopper" over there.

Yes, unfortunately they're not making "men" like they used to.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 5:51:59 AM EST
I'd love to have a 9mm Springfield to match my .45...at least it'd be cheaper to practice with. I wonder if they make a 9mm in a 5" lightweight loaded model?
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 3:47:18 PM EST
Fellas, I had a series 70 Colt in 9mm that I bought in 1980. Paid about $300 then and it was a great gun. The recoil was mild and it seemed to have decent accuracy. Must have put 10k rounds through it. I kept about 4 years and sold it when I built my house. Sure wish I had it back. BobK
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 4:03:50 PM EST
Lately I have been thinking a lot about a 9x23/9x19 1911. One for practice, one for the real deal. Mostly I just have a yearning for a custom pistol.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 4:20:15 PM EST
I juat bought a 9mm M1911A1 Auto-Ordnance yesterday. I was looking for a project gun, and this one fit the bill. It was only $275, so I figured if I didn't like it in 9mm, I could always change.

I took it out and shot it today. It shot nice. As accurate as anything else. Not on par with my P7 or P9, but with GI type sights and GI type fit, it shot fine. This is an earlier AO, pre-Kahr, built on an Essex frame they used. Needless to say it isn't the highest quality Govt Model I've seen, but it's a pretty nice gun to shoot.

I'm thinking of doing the 9x23/9x19 combo as well. Just a barrel and a spring, so it's not like I'm having to put out a ton of money to try out the caliber.

It really was a fun gun to shoot though.

Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:54:57 AM EST
buy a colt 1911 38super

add 9mm barrel and 9mm mags

...DONE, ya got a 9mm 1911

38/9 slide accept both calibers and barrels, without any other change.

the 38super and 9mm mags are pretty much the same except the 9mm is a shorter round and has a block in the back of the mag to take up the extra space.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 10:46:50 AM EST
I have a Kimber Stainless II, I was wondering if I could just change the slide, Barrel and mags and shoot 9mm?
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 2:01:19 AM EST
The ejector is different on the .45 and the .38/9mm. Because of the different profile (i.e the .38/9 is higher to hit the smaller cartridge) a .45 slide won't fit on a full-size 9mm or .38 Super gun. You could change the ejector everytime you swap top ends, but that's a hassle.

The Commander uses the same ejector for all calibers, and the slides are made to clear it obviously.

You could mill a clearence slot in your .45 slide and just use the .38/9mm ejector for all the cartridges, but be warned that ejectors quite often need to be tuned when they are replaced, so it may not work as well for all the calibers equally. I'm going to try this route with my Auto-Ordnance 9mm. It's not like I can ruin it or anything.

Link Posted: 5/30/2003 11:40:22 AM EST
9 mm Springfield 1911s are very popular in IDPA competition. I heard their custom shop cannot turn them out fast enough.
It figures Colt is once again asleep at the wheel.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 8:28:33 AM EST
Dan Wesson makes 1911 in 9mm.
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