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Posted: 7/27/2005 8:48:23 AM EDT
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I'm new to 9mm, myself. Maybe only a few months ahead of you. That being said, Federal has the "Personal" and "Premium" lines of pistol ammo that seems to hover under $20 /50rds. the Hi-shoks and HSTs come to mind.
Try here ...and here HSTs rule 
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Posted: 7/27/2005 9:24:54 AM EDT
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I use Wally World Winchester 100 pack for practice and Winchester Ranger T's for SHTF.
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Posted: 7/27/2005 9:33:46 AM EDT
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Does walmart sell the Ranger T's as well? If not, where can I find them? Online? |
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Posted: 7/27/2005 9:36:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2005 9:41:43 AM EDT
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Thanks, not as cheap as the white box stuff, huh?  Do you use the 127 or 147 grain? What are you feeding this to? |
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Posted: 7/27/2005 10:26:44 AM EDT
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Winchester 127 grn +P+ HP
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Posted: 7/27/2005 10:38:22 AM EDT
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Heehee. The people ammo ain't the cheapest, no. I've only got one box of 147 gr. to try. Here's my thoughts: Given how negligable the difference between 9, .40, and .45 can be these days with how far ammo technology has come, I couldn't possibly tell a difference between 124 and 147gr. I understand that point of impact vs point of aim can shift if you're coming from a lighter weight, but at 12 ft or whatever, you won't notice that either. I own a Sig P239. It's a reltaively small gun with a 3.6in barrel. I feel comfortable putting just about any weight of quality HP through it, and I think everyone else should too. Shot placement above all else, but it does feel good to know that your ammo assists. |
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Posted: 7/28/2005 12:08:44 PM EDT
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Gold Dot is right up there with the Winny. I prefer 147 grain but the 124+p has a strong following.
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Posted: 7/28/2005 12:13:09 PM EDT
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Georgia Arms "Shear Power Plus"
Inexpensive, they have both carry ammo (gold dots) and practice ammo (FMJ), loaded to the same standards. Hell, the carry stuff is cheap enough to practice with! I've been using them for years, it's very high quality ammo. |
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Posted: 7/28/2005 4:51:44 PM EDT
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Walmart doesn't sell Ranger T's . I get my Ranger T's from a guy named Jerry Kirkpatrick. Great guy to deal with and here's his email [email protected] . 556man |
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Posted: 7/28/2005 4:58:37 PM EDT
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Go check out the ammoman.com
he has/had Nato 9MM USGI Ball - hot and kick ass. comes in a neat ammo can as well. Later, Badredfish 
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Posted: 7/31/2005 5:46:49 AM EDT
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There are two Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +Ps, one is 1150 fps and the other is 1220+ fps. I can't find the 1220+ fps which has better gel results than the 1150 fps.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 6:35:02 AM EDT
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I say again: Georgia Arms
G9MMH 124gr Hollow Point +P 396lbs 1200FPS 50/$12.50 100/$24.50 1000/$235.00 |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 7:13:57 AM EDT
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There is one Speer GD 124gr +P --------> 1220 from a 4" barrel (+ pressure, regular GD bullet) There is one Speer GD/SB 124gr +P ----> 1150 from a 3.5" barrel (+ pressure, Short Barrel GD bullet) There is one Speer GD 124 gr -----------> 1150 from a 4" barrel (std pressure, regular GD bullet) The GD/SB is designed for shorter barrels. The bullet is different (lager cavity IIRC) than the regular GD loads. The 9mm GD/SB is new this year. AFAIK it hasn't been widely tested yet. What gel results are you refering to? |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:37:44 AM EDT
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Practice: Whatever you can find the cheapest
Competition: American Eagle or Geco Carry: Georgia Arms Shear Power Plus 124 +P |
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Posted: 8/1/2005 5:53:53 AM EDT
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Gelatin Test I'm not sure how old it is. I retabulated the results and limiting my searches to something that expands well and creates a large volume in the cloth + gelatin, and removing under/over penetration I get: Winchester Ranger T 147 gr Speer Gold Dot 147 gr Speer Gold Dot +P 124 gr I took out Rem Golden Sabre because its brass jacketed. 
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Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:21 AM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 8/12/2005 7:39:27 PM EDT
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Gentlemen,
For bulk range ammo, check out Lancer Ammo in NC. You can get 1K 9mm FJ for $99. I have shot about 5K of their stuff without a hitch. www.lancerammo.com rgr9707 |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:23:34 PM EDT
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there is an ammo review thread somewhere on this site...can someone in the know find it for him?
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Posted: 8/15/2005 12:52:48 PM EDT
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I would research the use of +P+ 9mm in a Hi Power. I get the literature from Cylinder and Slide from time to time and he mentioned in one issue that he had repaired many HPs with frames damaged from shooting +Ps. Springs and bufffers might help, but you're talking +P+. If your High Power is considered "consumable" then no sweat. YMMV.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 12:51:24 PM EDT
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If you want some ranger T
I have some available right here www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=89&t=291106 |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 3:05:10 PM EDT
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target practice-CCI Blazer (aluminum case). Academy Sports sells it for $3.86/50rd box. www.academysports.com for a location near you...unless LA means los angeles, then just move.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 4:57:14 PM EDT
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Just picked up 500 rd. of 127 SXT +P+ from Jerry the other day. Jerry is a super guy, and as straight as an arrow, but his MOM is an absolute HOOT! Kick Ass, Mom! 
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Posted: 8/25/2005 6:19:13 AM EDT
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That is correct, HP's were not designed for a steady diet of +P loads. BUT, I do not see why you could not practice with the standard white box stuff, and then shoot off a few +p's to check feel and function. And then carry the +p: it doesn't matter what it can do to the pistol over the longer term if it saves your life right then. The spring and buffer advice should be well taken. |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 6:45:40 PM EDT
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For practice, I recommend WOLF 9mm. If you buy in bulk or wait for a local shop to have a sale, you can probably find the stuff for well under $100 per thousand.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 7:33:33 PM EDT
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if you use the $20 off orders over $250 coupon found in the ak47 forum, you can get wolf 9mm for $94/1000 shipped from sportsmans guide if you buy 3000 rounds at a time.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 9:19:21 AM EDT
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I've been thinking about buying some of the NATO 9mm from ammoman, but I'd like to know what it is classified as ? Is it just a little hotter than standard loads, or is it genuine " +P " ammo. I e-mailed eric about it a while back with no response. Does anyone know to what specs. the NATO 9mm is loaded to ? I was thinking just +P.... any ideas ? |
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