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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:13:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: and the fact that it can boil room temperature water is just neat sciency shit 
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:16:02 PM EDT
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Hey OP...do you have any links to products you use or pics of products you use ???
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:16:39 PM EDT
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VacMaster master race checking in.
Seals meats, liquids, dry foods, ammo, etc ETA. VacMaster 215 |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey OP...do you have any links to products you use or pics of products you use ??? . Not OP, but this is the one I got and like OP said-it’s amazing. https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey OP...do you have any links to products you use or pics of products you use ??? . Avid Armor USV32 owner here |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:21:45 PM EDT
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The fact they are pretty heavy, and bulky and not having any space to store one kept me from looking into them when my cabelas vac sealer went tits up last summer. Some day
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:24:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:27:53 PM EDT
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I want one at the entrance to the house.
1) Porch pirate. Make nice faces for the door camera while the air goes out. 2) Religious people or salesperson. Should have found a better job than disturb a stranger. 3) Angry neighbor. You won't be angry much longer. Eye keeeed. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:32:59 PM EDT
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Another happy Avid Armor USV32 owner here
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:35:12 PM EDT
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We have one. Wife uses it all the time. I suggested it because I read they were way better. I still don't understand how they work differently than a regular ole vac sealer and why they are better?
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:40:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:44:34 PM EDT
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Agreed.... Got one a few weeks ago.
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Posted: 1/17/2024 11:56:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey OP...do you have any links to products you use or pics of products you use ??? . i've got two now, this one is my favorite and by far the best bang for the buck it's also 70lbs so take note of that https://www.ebay.com/itm/374192481218?epid=6049102221&hash=item571f9c23c2:g:CFMAAOSwvXpi4kgj&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Gs3EghX0xG3nO5w8M%2FmZXEYnp0%2FHq3Z7iiB%2BBkYa8hgT4AUnbgjsSALEsJEleFIchedD9iZ6ZDDX33QU2X7VMV8SRJxyf%2FAJwNwi%2B1UbrjOyL1VVQ0Mecjyztk1SyIZJShhWZyud5f0o4vIrpNEi9KXic5dQmK47nScozqkJduc0ESohmjA4mOJHYUXuiNNHtt4wHEQi9TqmXMd1xeRFyl74KIHLgoaW37CdF6Me4fLl895ixpdHiBBDL%2F5I5emQeFWiobgmZjT%2FBH8uVdi9LQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUIq4nqujYw i've also got the avid armor that a couple of people here have already mentioned. i had to dick with the seal on it to get it to achieve a good vacuum but quite happy with it now. it's 20lbs and half as tall so if you want one for a home kitchen, that's your best bet. think they're $550 on amazon right now |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:01:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: VacMaster master race checking in. Seals meats, liquids, dry foods, ammo, etc ETA. VacMaster 215 You gotta go bigger...... .....We bought 2 used commercial sealers both needed a crack welded up on the ids and a new seal.... Attached File |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:03:24 AM EDT
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I'm a poor food saver guy but have used vac savers and commercial chamber vacs the size of a kitchen table. I would like the chamber vac, but the weight and cost makes it cost preventative for someone that just seals meat and freezes it to keep in the freezer a couple weeks. Now if I did more long term storage and soups (We rarely eat a soup), then I would do a chamber vac.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:06:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, you got my attention Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: and the fact that it can boil room temperature water is just neat sciency shit here's the first shitty video of it i found. boiling point changes under vacuum.  VacMaster P215 - Vacuum sealing water |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:07:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: drawbacks: 1) not compact How not compact? |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:08:39 AM EDT
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Thanks! I need one of these. I make a lot of sausage.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:08:45 AM EDT
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They are the cat’s ass for packing and freezing meat in volume.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:10:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, you got my attention |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:11:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You gotta go bigger...... .....We bought 2 used commercial sealers both needed a crack welded up on the ids and a new seal....https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/404934/IMG_0409_jpeg-3098257.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: VacMaster master race checking in. Seals meats, liquids, dry foods, ammo, etc ETA. VacMaster 215 You gotta go bigger...... .....We bought 2 used commercial sealers both needed a crack welded up on the ids and a new seal....https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/404934/IMG_0409_jpeg-3098257.JPG vevor! those chinese fuckers make everything |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:12:42 AM EDT
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My foodsaver came with an attachment that does this.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:15:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, you got my attention Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: and the fact that it can boil room temperature water is just neat sciency shit Science, water boils at a lower temperature in a vacuum. I use this theory daily when evacuating/dehydrating HVAC equipment.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:18:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How not compact? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: drawbacks: 1) not compact How not compact? a foodsaver is a little bitty thing to get a vacuum chamber sealer of a decent size you're looking at a 15x15x10 footprint, minimum |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:18:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My foodsaver came with an attachment that does this. no, it didn't |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:17:37 AM EDT
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What's the largest piece of meat you can fit in one?
I often vac seal whole pork loins and bellies for my cured meat projects. I'm assuming I'd still need the conventional FoodSaver for larger cuts. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:35:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have one. Wife uses it all the time. I suggested it because I read they were way better. I still don't understand how they work differently than a regular ole vac sealer and why they are better? A foodsaver sucks air out of the bag and then seals it. A chamber vac sucks air out of the chamber, seals the bag, then lets the pressure back in around it. For starters you can seal liquid. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:42:29 AM EDT
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I don't have space for one unfortunately.
soups are easy to seal with a food saver. Just put the bag in the freezer for a bit until the soup is semi solid and then seal. I do it all the time. I'm sure the units you guys are talking about do it better but this really works well. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:48:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. Quote HistoryOrdered one for the wife this Christmas after seeing another thread here about them. I got mine from Amazon for $200 on a returned warehouse deal. It had a small dent but for $130 off I'll take it. I like it a lot already. We mainly used it to prepare some meats in marinade ahead of time. Very cool. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:59:56 AM EDT
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We have a vacmaster 215. We process about 100 chickens a year. I cut them up and vac seal them. We also use it often for breaking down food we buy in bulk.
Does take up quite a bit of room but we have a walk in pantry. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:18:03 AM EDT
[#31]
Bookmarked
I'm intrigued |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:28:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Some more affordable chamber sealers from counter top to stand alone dual chamber machines...these are commercial grade machines and will handle commercial bags...
https://www.vevor.com/s/vacuum-sealers |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:32:22 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one at the entrance to the house. 1) Porch pirate. Make nice faces for the door camera while the air goes out. 2) Religious people or salesperson. Should have found a better job than disturb a stranger. 3) Angry neighbor. You won't be angry much longer. Eye keeeed. These are all fantastic suggestions. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:55:27 AM EDT
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OP: Was it you that also had a good thread about freeze dryers? I was trying to find it and couldn’t. If not, excuse my thread drift but accept the free bump.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:17:36 AM EDT
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My vac sealer can seal mason jars.
My vac sealer will suck all of the air out of any size bag I make, and I can make any size bag I need. I can freeze anything liquid or mushy (like meat), and then suck all of the air out of the bag. Unless a chamber vacuum sealer can seal steaks or hamburgers without smashing them out of shape, I don't think I need one. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:30:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP: Was it you that also had a good thread about freeze dryers? I was trying to find it and couldn’t. If not, excuse my thread drift but accept the free bump. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Freeze-Drying-Freeze-Driers-Freeze-Dried-Food-and-Shenanigans/5-2689099/ |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:51:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My vac sealer can seal mason jars. My vac sealer will suck all of the air out of any size bag I make, and I can make any size bag I need. I can freeze anything liquid or mushy (like meat), and then suck all of the air out of the bag. Unless a chamber vacuum sealer can seal steaks or hamburgers without smashing them out of shape, I don't think I need one. i can seal mason jars without extra steps or pieces, so long a they fit i can get more air out, without having to arrange food perfectly i can vacuusuck anything liquid or mushy immediately, without extra steps i've heard you can also use foodsaver bags and seal them externally so i could also do any size bag i wanted, so far as i know, haven't tried it there are settings so you can vacuusuck as little or as much as your heart desires i've got 3 regular foodsavers and they're great. buying my first was a game changer, same as buying a chamber vac was over a foodsaver |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:54:23 AM EDT
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[youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/ev129nqGp2I[/youtube]
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ev129nqGp2I Love mine! |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:05:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i can seal mason jars without extra steps or pieces, so long a they fit i can get more air out, without having to arrange food perfectly i can vacuusuck anything liquid or mushy immediately, without extra steps i've heard you can also use foodsaver bags and seal them externally so i could also do any size bag i wanted, so far as i know, haven't tried it there are settings so you can vacuusuck as little or as much as your heart desires i've got 3 regular foodsavers and they're great. buying my first was a game changer, same as buying a chamber vac was over a foodsaver @TexRdnec Can you seal a quart jar? When you vacuum seal meat, does it get smashed flat, or retain it's shape? If you are pulling any real vacuum, the meat gets squished, Yes? If you're not pulling enough air out the bag to flatten things, you are not pulling all of the air out of the bag. You don't need to spend a thousand dollars to suck air out of a bag and seal it to prevent freezer burn or spoilage for several years. My vacuum sealer has more flexibility in what it can do for much less money. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:11:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @TexRdnec Can you seal a quart jar? When you vacuum seal meat, does it get smashed flat, or retain it's shape? If you are pulling any real vacuum, the meat gets squished, Yes? If you're not pulling enough air out the bag to flatten things, you are not pulling all of the air out of the bag. You don't need to spend a thousand dollars to suck air out of a bag and seal it to prevent freezer burn or spoilage for several years. My vacuum sealer has more flexibility in what it can do for much less money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i can seal mason jars without extra steps or pieces, so long a they fit i can get more air out, without having to arrange food perfectly i can vacuusuck anything liquid or mushy immediately, without extra steps i've heard you can also use foodsaver bags and seal them externally so i could also do any size bag i wanted, so far as i know, haven't tried it there are settings so you can vacuusuck as little or as much as your heart desires i've got 3 regular foodsavers and they're great. buying my first was a game changer, same as buying a chamber vac was over a foodsaver @TexRdnec Can you seal a quart jar? When you vacuum seal meat, does it get smashed flat, or retain it's shape? If you are pulling any real vacuum, the meat gets squished, Yes? If you're not pulling enough air out the bag to flatten things, you are not pulling all of the air out of the bag. You don't need to spend a thousand dollars to suck air out of a bag and seal it to prevent freezer burn or spoilage for several years. My vacuum sealer has more flexibility in what it can do for much less money. keep on not knowing what you don't know, you're good at it |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:14:59 AM EDT
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This thread sucks
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:15:45 AM EDT
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I've been torn on this for some time. Almost all meat gets cryo-vac'd at some point in its lifecycle now. This is with a commercial vac sealer, and the cut is never frozen. When you see the individual portions like that for sale on the shelf, the first thing you'll notice is that all the external pressure on the meat has squeezed the juices out. The effect is not as bad with larger cuts, but still not zero. When I was able to go to a butcher who got his meat straight from the slaughterhouse in AL, you could tell it was noticeably juicier. He is retired now though, and I never get back to AL anyway.
With my Foodsaver, I cut large pieces of meat into serving size portions, put them in a Foodsaver bag without sealing them, and freeze them until they are firm. I try to catch them before they are hard frozen. Then I vacuum seal them, and I break that seal when I thaw them to cook. I think that method preserves maximum juiciness. I would probably follow the same procedure with a chamber sealer. A chamber sealer would be nice for things that I freeze with a lot of liquid in them, from pulled pork to roast stews and the like. Fruit too. I can't justify the leap to a commercial sealer yet, but I'm interested to learn more ITT. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:20:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have one. Wife uses it all the time. I suggested it because I read they were way better. I still don't understand how they work differently than a regular ole vac sealer and why they are better? @JPL A "foodsaver" attempts to create a seal between the machine and the bag, then draws a vacuum inside the bag. This necessitates the specific plastic type that has air path via rough surface, otherwise the bag seals shut and it can't be vacuumed out. No matter how well they work, they are limited to only drawing a vacuum that the machine to bag seal can withstand, which is relatively little. A vacuum chamber machine instead draws a vacuum in the chamber that fully contains the bag. So it can draw a significantly higher vacuum, evacuate more air, also create a better seal because it's not drawing liquid towards the open end of the bag. When the chamber is fully evacuated, the impulse sealer seals the bag, then the chamber lets atmosphere back in and you're done. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:24:10 AM EDT
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You can vacuum seal from outside the chamber also.
 External Sealing in a Chamber Vacuum Sealer |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:29:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not OP, but this is the one I got and like OP said-it’s amazing. https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hey OP...do you have any links to products you use or pics of products you use ??? . Not OP, but this is the one I got and like OP said-it’s amazing. https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html That was my christmas present to myself 2 years ago I think. No issues so far and as you said sealing liquids is a gamechanger. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:30:36 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP: Was it you that also had a good thread about freeze dryers? I was trying to find it and couldn’t. If not, excuse my thread drift but accept the free bump. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Freeze-Drying-Freeze-Driers-Freeze-Dried-Food-and-Shenanigans/5-2689099/ I swear I used search terms it should have caught. Thank you! |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:35:22 AM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:37:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: a foodsaver is a little bitty thing to get a vacuum chamber sealer of a decent size you're looking at a 15x15x10 footprint, minimum |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:54:05 AM EDT
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My wife takes a zip lock bag and places what she wants to freeze in the bag. She inserts a straw and then zips the bag shut, all the way to the straw. She then sucks all the air out and then completely zips the bag shut. I told her I don’t think her process is efficient, but it keeps her in practice. I’m pretty sure she is now gonna buy one of these machines.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:56:39 AM EDT
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I really want one as well as a dehydrator. No room for them though.
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