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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:23:16 PM EST
So I just upgraded to a new iphone and the old one is no longer has any service from the carrier. I want to be able to use it as a wifi only device. I have disabled the cellular data and turned on wifi. It connects to my home network fine, but I cannot access anything on the web, or app store. Is a data plan required even to use wifi? Seems kinda silly since I'm not getting any services from the provider, but from my ISP.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:24:26 PM EST
Should essentially work as an iPod now.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:27:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
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That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:29:09 PM EST
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That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Should essentially work as an iPod now.


That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:31:16 PM EST
No, the data plan is not required to use wifi. Something is up on your end.


What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:33:03 PM EST
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What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:35:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MaineBassFishin:

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.
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Originally Posted By MaineBassFishin:
Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Should essentially work as an iPod now.


That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:35:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2013 1:39:14 PM EST by DaveE111]
I have an iPhone 4 that used to be Verizon that is only used for WiFi, you did go through the settings and turn on wifi, and try to connect to your router, right? Now I see that u did. If you see your router there shouldn't be anything stopping u from accessing the well. Let us know what you discover.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:35:47 PM EST
Turn on airplane mode then toggle the wifi. That should work if not try restoring it through itunes.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:37:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By davisac:
Turn on airplane mode then toggle the wifi. That should work if not try restoring it through itunes.
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Ya, I tried all of that with the exception of the restore. My kid is gunna be pissed when he finds all his ABC games are gone.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:38:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DcN484:


No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...
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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:39:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?


Nope, no provider, old work phone. Phone was mine, service was there's, just want to use it as a wifi device. Will try a restore.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:41:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By MaineBassFishin:
Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Should essentially work as an iPod now.


That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?



Chill out. The problem is on your end, this is a fact. Either a problem with the phone, or the router.

Did you try going to the network setting part on the phone, and hitting "reset all" or whatever it says in there? Try that before a restore.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:42:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:


Nope, no provider, old work phone. Phone was mine, service was there's, just want to use it as a wifi device. Will try a restore.
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?


Nope, no provider, old work phone. Phone was mine, service was there's, just want to use it as a wifi device. Will try a restore.


That was directed at the two guys I quoted, I have no experience trying to do what you're doing, exactly. I've used wifi with expired SIM cards before, so I can't understand what would be interfering with yours and why.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:43:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?



I'm not locked to anything, but in my area there really is only one provider, which is ATT.

I was simply told that I could not use a smartphone, as a dumb phone, period. I was wanting to use an older iPhone with a normal talk plan, no Data. Couldn't be done. Searches on the web pretty much confirm this as well, at least with ATT.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 1:50:45 PM EST
I have used several iPhones as WiFi-only devices without cellular service. Something is wrong with your phone.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:00:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DcN484:



I'm not locked to anything, but in my area there really is only one provider, which is ATT.

I was simply told that I could not use a smartphone, as a dumb phone, period. I was wanting to use an older iPhone with a normal talk plan, no Data. Couldn't be done. Searches on the web pretty much confirm this as well, at least with ATT.
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Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?



I'm not locked to anything, but in my area there really is only one provider, which is ATT.

I was simply told that I could not use a smartphone, as a dumb phone, period. I was wanting to use an older iPhone with a normal talk plan, no Data. Couldn't be done. Searches on the web pretty much confirm this as well, at least with ATT.


Sounds like they still have your phone locked.

There is nothing technically preventing it, other than their business model.

If you're sure it's unlocked just get a cheapo free phone with a plan, and swap out the SIMs. AT&T doesn't have to know - heck, this might work even if locked, since it's still AT&T. If you have a pay as you go service there (doesn't sound like you do), use it.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:17:32 PM EST
Try deleting the stored networks on the phone.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:50:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By MaineBassFishin:
Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Should essentially work as an iPod now.


That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?

Never said wifi was your problem, said the company didn't have control over your phones wifi, therefore somethings up with your phone. Thought I read verizon..It makes ZERO difference what company it is, none of them have control of your phones wifi.
If your going to get pissy over one small detail then go to bed.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:51:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By MaineBassFishin:
Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Should essentially work as an iPod now.


That's would i would have thought. Ever since sprint stopped the data plan on it, not even wifi works, where it did before. I'm wondering if they somehow lockdown all data connections when you have no service.

Verizon has no control over whether or not your wifi works, try restoring the phone.


Thanks for assuming my wifi is the problem. Thanks for assuming I had verizon.

My wifi works fine with every other device in my house. It also worked before the service was disconnected. So if its a problem with my router, as you suggest, whats a wipe going to solve?


Oh and in case I wasn't clear I never said it was your routers problem, its your phones wifi most likely.


Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:08:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?


No. The issue is that most, if not all, of the major carriers will require that you purchase a data plan if you want to bring a smartphone into their network. It's a policy issue, and it's enforced through reading your IMEI number when you sign onto the network (turn on your phone). The carrier immediately knows you're on a smartphone, and if you don't have a data plan on your account, they'll tack one on.

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Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:12:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:


No. The issue is that most, if not all, of the major carriers will require that you purchase a data plan if you want to bring a smartphone into their network. It's a policy issue, and it's enforced through reading your IMEI number when you sign onto the network (turn on your phone). The carrier immediately knows you're on a smartphone, and if you don't have a data plan on your account, they'll tack one on.

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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?


No. The issue is that most, if not all, of the major carriers will require that you purchase a data plan if you want to bring a smartphone into their network. It's a policy issue, and it's enforced through reading your IMEI number when you sign onto the network (turn on your phone). The carrier immediately knows you're on a smartphone, and if you don't have a data plan on your account, they'll tack one on.

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att is NOT against it. I got an iphone 4 a few months back and put a PRE PAID sim in it with the att stores help its just verizon that is stupid about this.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:17:27 PM EST
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att is NOT against it. I got an iphone 4 a few months back and put a PRE PAID sim in it with the att stores help its just verizon that is stupid about this.
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Originally Posted By RedFox1911:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:

What pisses me off is that I can't use an old smartphone just as a phone.

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No shit. "Data plan required". I hate that...


I have used my iPhone with voice only SIMs.

Is the issue that you are still locked to a provider?


No. The issue is that most, if not all, of the major carriers will require that you purchase a data plan if you want to bring a smartphone into their network. It's a policy issue, and it's enforced through reading your IMEI number when you sign onto the network (turn on your phone). The carrier immediately knows you're on a smartphone, and if you don't have a data plan on your account, they'll tack one on.

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att is NOT against it. I got an iphone 4 a few months back and put a PRE PAID sim in it with the att stores help its just verizon that is stupid about this.


I was starting to wonder if that had changed. My wife's smart phone was still using an old pre-smart phone AT&T SIM card form before any of us had data plans or smart phones until I finally got her an iPhone less than a year ago.
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