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Posted: 2/26/2008 5:28:40 PM EDT

I just found out that my union friend thinks that Bush dropped the towers and Pearl Harbor was planned.
I had no clue untill now.

Edit: My friend from the union is a conspriracy thearorist/moon bat.

He thinks that the .gov is watching him.

Fucking crazy bastartard.
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Posted: 2/26/2008 5:30:41 PM EDT

[#1]

Okay then. Vote for a Dem then.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:30:51 PM EDT

[#2]

And which alternative would you prefer - Hitlery or Osbama?

I'm no great fan of McCain either, but you'd have more chance of success advocating open revolution than most of the "alternative" candidates have.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:33:46 PM EDT

[#3]

Yeah! Stick it to 'em! Hillary would be much better for us conservatives! That'll show 'em!

When we line up to turn our guns in, make sure to find me in line, tell me how good it was to not vote McCain.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:34:50 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Yeah! Stick it to 'em! Hillary would be much better for us conservatives! That'll show 'em!

When we line up to turn our guns in, make sure to find me in line, tell me how good it was to not vote McCain.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:34:53 PM EDT

[#5]

Well then turn in your guns, it's really that simple

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:35:11 PM EDT

[#6]

Your new Democratic Overlords thank you.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:35:24 PM EDT

[#7]

What a fucking joke.

I don't expect collectivist union members to support the GOP candidate. Of course they won't, unions are socilaistic by nature.

The fact that you and your friend see yoursleves as being able to "control" so many votes is a riot...is everyone surrounding you a mindless drone just waiting for whatever spews from your mouth to follow like a robot?

Take your collectivist union attempt at sewing disunity withing the GOP vote somewhere else and troll with it, that crap won't wash here.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:15 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
The fact is, is that I will not vote for McCain.

There are at least 20 votes that are sitting in my and my friends hands that are for some one other than McCain.

We are still talking about what to do but our votes will not be going to McCain. My friend is a union rep for the UPS and I represent my engineering firm. We both represent our families and probably hold more votes in our hands than we think.

The fact of the matter is that McCain is not acceptable. And we will not be part of it.

You're foolish.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:18 PM EDT

[#9]

We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:20 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

What a fucking joke.

I don't expect collectivist union members to support the GOP candidate. Of course they won't, unions are socilaistic by nature.

The fact that you and your friend see yoursleves as being able to "control" so many votes is a riot...is everyone surrounding you a mindless drone just waiting for whatever spews from your mouth to follow like a robot?

Take your collectivist union attempt at sewing disunity withing the GOP vote somewhere else and troll with it, that crap won't wash here.

hey dont knock it...its the socialist way

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:22 PM EDT

[#11]

Unions NOT backing the Republican candidate.

What a surprise!

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:41 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
The fact is, is that I will not vote for McCain.

There are at least 20 votes that are sitting in my and my friends hands that are for some one other than McCain.

We are still talking about what to do but our votes will not be going to McCain. My friend is a union rep for the UPS and I represent my engineering firm. We both represent our families and probably hold more votes in our hands than we think.

The fact of the matter is that McCain is not acceptable. And we will not be part of it.

The Democrats thank you.

Do me a favor. During the next 8 years, don't DARE to complain about all the new gun laws, socialism, etc.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:36:51 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
The fact is, is that I will not vote for McCain.

There are at least 20 votes that are sitting in my and my friends hands that are for some one other than McCain.

We are still talking about what to do but our votes will not be going to McCain. My friend is a union rep for the UPS and I represent my engineering firm. We both represent our families and probably hold more votes in our hands than we think.

The fact of the matter is that McCain is not acceptable. And we will not be part of it.

Hope you enjoy President Obama then. I am sure he will be better.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:37:05 PM EDT

[#14]

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:37:54 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation.

You have unrealistic standards and foolish expectations and you'll get exactly the government you deserve. Unfortunately, you'll help drag those of us who are wiser and more realistic than you down with you.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:38:05 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

you know one of the best things about the US electoral system is that you really only have 2 parties to choose from... adding additional bullshit parties just creates split votes, weakens the process and creates instability...

Unless of course your adding multiple left wing parties..then its ok..

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:38:44 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

What a fucking joke.

I don't expect collectivist union members to support the GOP candidate. Of course they won't, unions are socilaistic by nature.

The fact that you and your friend see yoursleves as being able to "control" so many votes is a riot...is everyone surrounding you a mindless drone just waiting for whatever spews from your mouth to follow like a robot?

Take your collectivist union attempt at sewing disunity withing the GOP vote somewhere else and troll with it, that crap won't wash here.

When was the last time Kentucky went Democrat? His votes for socialism are as meaningless as my votes for McCain in NY.

edit Sorry I thought we were talking about the real world

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:38:53 PM EDT

[#18]

The FACT is you will only have two choices, McCain or Osama Hussein.

FACT......If you don't vote it's a vote for the demonrats just the same as if you pulled the lever for them.

FACT....Osama Hussein WILL take your guns away, raise your taxes and install as much socialism as he can with a willing congress.
McCain, while certainly not a conservative is a BILLION times better than Osama Hussein.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:39:03 PM EDT

[#19]

I don't like McCain very much either.
But I'm going to grudgingly vote for him.

Biggest issue for me is the potential for Supreme Court nominations coming up in he near future. I'd rather have a Republican do that.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:39:34 PM EDT

[#20]

The best idea I've heard so far is to write in 'John Galt'.

Then wait for that stupid broad Katie Couric to ask on national TV: 'Who is John Galt? and why did he get 20% of the vote?'

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:40:19 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

Write Ron Paul on a piece of TP and wipe your ass with it, he won't be a lever in the voting booth come November.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:42:32 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

Well, it didn't take long for the Ron Paul plug to occur.

The dude lost, get over it.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:42:47 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick.

You just did by essentially voting for the Democrat. Obama thanks you.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:46:17 PM EDT

[#24]

Don't think of it as a vote for McCain. Think of it as a vote against Stalinism.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:46:24 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
The fact is, is that I will not vote for McCain.

There are at least 20 votes that are sitting in my and my friends hands that are for some one other than McCain.

We are still talking about what to do but our votes will not be going to McCain. My friend is a union rep for the UPS and I represent my engineering firm. We both represent our families and probably hold more votes in our hands than we think.

The fact of the matter is that McCain is not acceptable. And we will not be part of it.

The very idea that you, or any union controls the votes of any individual American is offensive and communistic in nature. Vote for Obama, he's your guy. We'll be by to pick up your guns in a year or so.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:46:31 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

What a fucking joke.

I don't expect Socialist union members to support the GOP candidate. Of course they won't, unions are socilaistic by nature.

The fact that you and your friend see yoursleves as being able to "control" so many votes is a riot...is everyone surrounding you a mindless drone just waiting for whatever spews from your mouth to follow like a robot?

Take your collectivist union attempt at sewing disunity withing the GOP vote somewhere else and troll with it, that crap won't wash here.

All hail communism!! Lets let the worker's party decide what is best for all of us. Go ahead hold people's votes hostage!! Its for the betterment of this nation? Amiright guyz??!

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:47:06 PM EDT

[#27]

McCain gets a pretty high grade from the NRA, why are you against him?
Abortion? He is a right to lifer.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:47:16 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

LMFAO.

You come here expecting us to think that a fucking union will choose RON PAUL?????

Your trolling-fu is soooo weak. At least try and have a believable story.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:47:22 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
The fact is, is that I will not vote for McCain.

There are at least 20 votes that are sitting in my and my friends hands that are for some one other than McCain.

We are still talking about what to do but our votes will not be going to McCain. My friend is a union rep for the UPS and I represent my engineering firm. We both represent our families and probably hold more votes in our hands than we think.

The fact of the matter is that McCain is not acceptable. And we will not be part of it.

Good for you, comrade.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:48:02 PM EDT

[#30]

Ignore the fear-mongerers here who really have no problem with McCain, the only way for long term change is to vote your conscious. Voting for turd sandwiches only perpetuates a state of turd sandwiches.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:51:09 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
The FACT is you will only have two choices, McCain or Osama Hussein.

FACT......If you don't vote it's a vote for the demonrats just the same as if you pulled the lever for them.

FACT....Osama Hussein WILL take your guns away, raise your taxes and install as much socialism as he can with a willing congress.
McCain, while certainly not a conservative is a BILLION times better than Osama Hussein.

Very true. And part of that willing congress will be Senator McCain walking across the aisle and co-authoring some of those bills.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:51:30 PM EDT

[#32]

You all are wearing tin foil hats.

Everyother year the party fails. Weather it is a dem or a rep, we are unhappy. We need to give the third party a good showing and eventually we will have a third option.

Get a clue. If you continue to not show support for the correct candidate (even if he is the best choice and not a dem or rep) we will never have someone who represents our beliefs.

Republican/conservatives are going to die because of their religious right. I'm not representated by the religious right and most of us are not.

Just because a Dem is in office for 3 years does not mean that we will send in all our guns. Next election should be an independants if you all would quit voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:52:52 PM EDT

[#33]

So I take it you and your father support comrade Obama.

I guess that's to be expected from union workers.

Barack Hussein Obama On Gun Control

Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions

Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.

A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:

Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime

Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect

Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought

Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations

Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices

Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality

I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturer's lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do ew need to punish thatman for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair.
Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006

Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities

Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?
A: You know, when the massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we've had 34 Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part, there has been silence. We know what to do. We've got to enforce the gun laws that are on the books. We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those 30-some children in Chicago who've been shot as we do the children in Virginia Tech. That's a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don't have it right now.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007

2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month

Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007

Chicago Defender December 13, 1999,

Obama unveils federal gun bill

Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home.

He's proposing restricting gun purchases to one weapon a month and banning the sale of firearms at gun shows except for "antique" weapons. Obama is also proposing increasing the licensing fee to obtain a federal firearms

Here's the Chicago Tribune, October 8, 2004:

In 2001, Obama was one of just nine senators to vote against a bill that toughened penalties for violent crimes committed during gang activity. Obama said the law did not clearly define a gang member and he questioned why lawmakers were targeting Hispanics and blacks for stiffer sentences.

Two years earlier, after the Columbine High School shootings in Colorado, Obama voted "present" on a bill requiring juveniles to be prosecuted as adults for firing a firearm on or near school property.

Obama also voted against a bill permitting gun owners to claim self-defense when using a gun in their homes if the local community bans the use of handguns. Obama said municipalities should control local gun regulations, not the state.

"That law eviscerated anti-handgun ordinances in some communities," Obama said. "The way I feel, Wilmette should not determine Mattoon's firearms ordinances and Mattoon should not determine Wilmette's."

Associated Press, Sept. 11, 2004:

-Voted 'No' on letting people claim a self-defense protection in court for using a gun in their homes despite local weapons bans. (SB2165, 2004)

-Voted 'Yes' on letting retired police and military police carry concealed weapons. (SB2188, 2004)

Obama won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police. Union officials cited Obama's longtime support of gun-control measures and his willingness to negotiate compromises on bills backed or opposed by the FOP.

Barack Hussein Obama On Immigration

Immigration raids are ineffective. (Feb 2008)

Health plan: not enough resources for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2008)

Illegals shouldn't work; but should have path to citizenship. (Dec 2007)

Don't deputize Americans to turn in illegal immigrants. (Dec 2007)

OK to provide government services in Spanish. (Dec 2007)

Comprehensive solution includes employers & borders. (Nov 2007)

Support granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007)

FactCheck: Lightning IS likelier than employer prosecution. (Nov 2007)

Illegal immigrants' lack of ID is a public safety concern. (Oct 2007)

Pathway to citizenship, but people have to earn it. (Aug 2007)

Let's be a nation of laws AND a nation of immigrants. (Aug 2007)

Extend welfare and Medicaid to immigrants. (Jul 1998)

Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)

Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)

Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)

Barack Hussein Obama On Taxes

Last thing we need now is a permanent tax cut. (Jan 2008)

Voted NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. (Mar 2007)

Voted NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million. (Mar 2007)

Voted NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts. (Aug 2006)

Voted NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`. (Jun 2006)

Voted YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut. (Feb 2006)

Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Feb 2006)

Voted NO on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends. (Nov 2005)

I'm not bashful about it: wealthy will pay more taxes. (Jan 2008)

Reduce Bush tax cuts to pay for health care & other programs. (Jun 2007)

Barack Hussein Obama On Iraq

Get our troops out by the end of 2009. (Jan 2008)

The surge is not working toward enduring peace. (Jan 2008)

Surge strategy has made a difference in Iraq but failed. (Nov 2007)

Hopes to remove all troops from Iraq by 2013, but no pledge. (Sep 2007)

We live in a more dangerous world because of Bush's actions. (Jun 2007)

Open-ended Iraq occupation must end: no military solution. (Apr 2007)

Begin withdrawal May 1 2007; finish by March 31 2008. (Apr 2007)

Open dialogue with both Syria and Iran. (Apr 2007)

Withdraw gradually and keep some troops in Iraq region. (Mar 2007)

Invading Iraq was a bad strategic blunder. (Oct 2004)

Meet directly for diplomacy with the leadership in Iran. (Nov 2007)

Al Qaida is stronger than before thanks to the Bush doctrine. (Jan 2006)

Problems with current Israeli policy. (Jul 2004)

Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)

Barack Hussein Obama On Abortion

Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)

Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)

Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)

Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)

Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)

ontheissues.org/default.htm

Obama proposes $210 billion for new jobs

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
Wed Feb 13, 5:19 PM ET
Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries, as he tried to win over economically struggling voters.

Obama's investment would be over 10 years as part of two programs. The larger is $150 billion to create 5 million so-called "green collar" jobs to develop more environmentally friendly energy sources.

Sixty-billion dollars would go to a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank to rebuild highways, bridges, airports and other public projects. Obama estimated that could generate nearly 2 million jobs, many of them in the construction industry that's been hit by the housing crisis.

"This agenda is paid for," Obama said as the Republican National Committee promoted an "Obama Spend-O-Meter" online to track his proposals and portray him as a tax-and-spend liberal. Obama explained that the money for his spending proposals will come from ending the Iraq war, cutting tax breaks for corporations, taxing carbon pollution and raising taxes on high income earners.

Link

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:54:27 PM EDT

[#34]

I am a member of that same UPS union. It is called The Teamsters. They will blindly vote in step with whomever the Democrats put up there. To think they will back Ron Paul is pie in the sky crazy.

I'm voting for McCain and I'll feel good about it.

Third party? So you are voting for Nader?

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:54:47 PM EDT

[#35]

Sorry dude, Mr. Ron (I Surrender) Paul is not the answer

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:55:12 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option.

Sigh.

I had a feeling that's where this was going.

We refuse to suck the democracatic dick.

As do we.

Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us.

Exactly how will you accomplish that? The same way the Perotistans "showed them" in '92, by delivering Billy Bob his 43% "mandate"? The way that Naderites "showed" the moderate Dems in 2000 by providing enough room for Bush to challenge Gore's tallies?

Oooh, what a substantive threat. I'm sure both the DNC and RNC are quivering.

Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems.

Rush (the band) said "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this case, all coservatives would be doing by voting for RP is denying a vote for McCain - IOW casting a vote for the (D) nominee.

Each year is closer to a real party of the people.

Funny - I thought that was the tagline of the National Socialists Party. (Or is it the Communists? I forget.)

A small .gov.

While I support it in theory, I have aged (and become jaded) to the point where I realize that the libertarian ideal of a rugged individual living in harmony with others of similar mindedness is just as flawed as Marx's communist utopia.

Why?

Because the presence of the government is the only thing keeping a surprisingly large percentage of the sheeplike population from jumping the line to the "wolves" side.

I also had a bigger problem with RP once he started beating the loony left "FLEE IRAQ!" drum.

The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

When the time comes we won't be boldly posting on ARFCOM.

And once again, I'm done with another RP thread.

Maybe we need a "AGNTRPSA?!" pic?

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Posted: 2/26/2008 5:55:34 PM EDT

[#37]

This has to be the most pathetic of all the Ron Paul troll posts, and I have seen them all.

Come in declaring you and your union rep Buddy "control" votes, saying how you won't vote for McCain.

Then bust out a bit later with the Paul nonsense.

Yeah, right, the one candidate who has a stance that he would eliminate all government protections for unions is going to get endorsed by them.....

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:56:39 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Ignore the fear-mongerers here who really have no problem with McCain, the only way for long term change is to vote your conscious. Voting for turd sandwiches only perpetuates a state of turd sandwiches.

No, ignore the people who don't understand how the American political system works. In other words, people just like you.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:57:25 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The FACT is you will only have two choices, McCain or Osama Hussein.

FACT......If you don't vote it's a vote for the demonrats just the same as if you pulled the lever for them.

FACT....Osama Hussein WILL take your guns away, raise your taxes and install as much socialism as he can with a willing congress.
McCain, while certainly not a conservative is a BILLION times better than Osama Hussein.

Very true. And part of that willing congress will be Senator McCain walking across the aisle and co-authoring some of those bills.

Yeah, because McCain has already voted for gun-bans, right? Oh I forgot...he hasn't.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:57:28 PM EDT

[#40]

If you lean to the conservative side, you have four options when voting for president:

1) Vote for the Republican.

2) Vote for the Democrat.

3) Not vote = half a vote for the Democrat.

4) Write in a vote or third party vote = half a vote for the Democrat.

This is the hard cold truth to the presidential election.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:57:59 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
You all are wearing tin foil hats.

That's fucking hilarious coming from a Paulbot. You're wearing a dunce cap with pride, apparently.

Posted: 2/26/2008 5:59:23 PM EDT

[#42]

No shit! A union not supporting the GOP. Wow! I would have never guessed.

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:00:10 PM EDT

[#43]

KING OF TEH TROLLZ

Considering how everyone on myg0t.com and totse are batshit crazy for RP, only something like this would make sense to them

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:00:11 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The FACT is you will only have two choices, McCain or Osama Hussein.

FACT......If you don't vote it's a vote for the demonrats just the same as if you pulled the lever for them.

FACT....Osama Hussein WILL take your guns away, raise your taxes and install as much socialism as he can with a willing congress.
McCain, while certainly not a conservative is a BILLION times better than Osama Hussein.

Very true. And part of that willing congress will be Senator McCain walking across the aisle and co-authoring some of those bills.

Yeah, because McCain has already voted for gun-bans, right? Oh I forgot...he hasn't.

Maybe not guns but he's caved in and joined the Dems on lot of other things. Hasn't he?

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:01:20 PM EDT

[#45]

Other than McCain being retarded on immigration... he doesnt seem that bad compared to the alternative Obama which has got to be one of the most leftist red politicians ive seen in the US in along time.. sickening that he has a shot at the big job..

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:03:22 PM EDT

[#46]

So you all can continue to elect lesser and lesser conservative candidates into office because that is the lesser of 2 evils. Meanwhile us that have a moral obligation to vote for the real conservative eventaully are dragged into the gutter with you lesser of 2 evil folks.

At the same time the conservative party is forced to become more and more liberal in order to obtain votes.

I'm telling you. The more that you sacrafice your beliefs in order to obtain the lesser of 2 evils the more gun rights you will ultimatly sacrafice. Keep fooling yourselfs and settleing and you will reap what you soe.

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:03:27 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
We have a standard. We have an expectation. RP is our option. We refuse to suck the democracatic dick. Even if the dems win we must show that neither party represents us. Quit being a stooge and cast your vote. Show the world that you don't agree with either rinos or dems. Each year is closer to a real party of the people. A small .gov. The time is coming. It is near if you stand for your beliefs.

You have a good solid plan to get there.

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:06:02 PM EDT

[#48]

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So you all can continue to elect lesser and lesser conservative candidates into office because that is the lesser of 2 evils. Meanwhile us that have a moral obligation to vote for the real conservative eventaully are dragged into the gutter with you lesser of 2 evil folks.

At the same time the conservative party is forced to become more and more liberal in order to obtain votes.

I'm telling you. The more that you sacrafice your beliefs in order to obtain the lesser of 2 evils the more gun rights you will ultimatly sacrafice. Keep fooling yourselfs and settleing and you will reap what you soe.

Ron Paul is not a conservative. Why are you morally obligated to vote for him? Are the voices telling you to? Or the neighbors dog, perhaps?

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:06:38 PM EDT

[#49]

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So you all can continue to elect lesser and lesser conservative candidates into office because that is the lesser of 2 evils. Meanwhile us that have a moral obligation to vote for the real conservative eventaully are dragged into the gutter with you lesser of 2 evil folks.

At the same time the conservative party is forced to become more and more liberal in order to obtain votes.

I'm telling you. The more that you sacrafice your beliefs in order to obtain the lesser of 2 evils the more gun rights you will ultimatly sacrafice. Keep fooling yourselfs and settleing and you will reap what you soe.

as populations become more urbanized the reality is that politics unfortunately shift to the left.....

Your option appears to be to either,

not vote or not vote...

which is great way on ensuring that positive change takes place, because after all all those bloodsucking politicians will certainly listen and chase the vote of those who advocate not taking part in the electoral process.

Luckily historically the marginalized city dwellers, low income people and other defeatists generally dont turn out to vote as well, thus keeping more votes going to the right by lack of participation...

But hey now that they got their commie superstar in the ring... either vote or enjoy his landslide...

Posted: 2/26/2008 6:07:30 PM EDT

[#50]

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You all are wearing tin foil hats.

That's fucking hilarious coming from a Paulbot. You're wearing a dunce cap with pride, apparently.

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