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Posted: 12/27/2004 12:33:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2005 8:44:16 AM EDT by m-dc]
I have a finished but unheated basement, probably around 55-60 degrees F I heat the main floor to 68F when I am home and 63 when away I use a 24+inch golden rod dehumidifier in a safe thats about the size of a Coke machine, it is not firelined. My question is will taking those wepons in and out of the safe cause condensation and premote rust in the long run, or should I stop being a tight ass and heat the basement. Thanks m-dc
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 12:36:15 PM EDT
I think the golden rod should be enough. My rifle teams keeps their equipment at the range. It is an unheated range, and gets down to about 40 during the winter on the inside of the building. It took over a year before rust started to show up. We are planning on installing a couple golden rods in the various safes to keep it from happening again.
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 12:37:45 PM EDT
If your firearms are as valuable to you as mine are to me, then I would heat the basement so that you can quit your worry about rust.
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 12:42:55 PM EDT
In the summer, one word, dehumidifier!
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 12:44:44 PM EDT
I keep mine out in the unheated garage. sometimes it gets below 32F. After 4 years it has not been a problem.
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 4:04:12 PM EDT
ok but does it really matter as long as humidity and temp are constant, or change somewhat through the seasons, MN.
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 4:29:45 PM EDT
Keep a light coating of oil on them. You shouldn't have a problem.
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 4:32:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mantis:
Keep a light coating of oil on them. You shouldn't have a problem.



+1
Link Posted: 12/27/2004 4:40:48 PM EDT
Cpl that of course is done, just wondering as the temp in there is diffrent than the temp upstairs where I usually "display" them on a regular basis.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 9:41:54 AM EDT
Anyone else?
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 10:34:50 AM EDT
Fine, been doing that for 9 years now Zero rust. Much more important to control humidity then temp. Lower the temp BTW the less reaction of moisture to metal there is. Only when you go from below freezing to above freezing is there problem with condensation on metal usually. Just oil em up and don't worry.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 10:41:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 10:45:36 AM EDT
Dehmidifier in the safe or in the room? Electric or one of the cans? Also I ll take you up on sealing the door a little better and adding a second goldenrod. I am not orerly paranoid, just moved to a new house and the set up is a little diffrent. Thanks
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:46:20 PM EDT
bump
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:54:17 PM EDT
VCI emitters... learn it, live it, love it!!!
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:01:01 PM EDT
VCI emitters? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? over.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:03:11 PM EDT
I use 2 golden rods in my safe, its out in the garage
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:04:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:04:37 PM EDT by NYPatriot]

Originally Posted By m-dc:
VCI emitters? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? over.



Just Google "VCI emitters" & behold the answer to your problems.

I have been using them for a few years & I have nothing but praise for them. They work as advertised.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:30:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:31:10 PM EDT by m-dc]
Not a bash but dont think that is the ticket for the long term. Did a quick look 1: price unknown 2: treats 10 sq ft I would need many Ref (Coke machine sized), 3: lasts 24 mos, wont cut it kinda a scatter brain. If my initial assumption is wrong please enlighten. Thanks, m-dc
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:09:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 11:10:25 PM EDT by NYPatriot]

Originally Posted By m-dc:
Not a bash but dont think that is the ticket for the long term. Did a quick look 1: price unknown 2: treats 10 sq ft I would need many Ref (Coke machine sized), 3: lasts 24 mos, wont cut it kinda If my initial assumption is wrong please enlighten. Thanks, m-dc



As far as price, shop around. Lots of sites pop up on a Google search. I know some of them list the price (which are reasonable). Emitter cups are avalible in a range of sizes & one will definitely be large enough for your safe (did you calculate the square footage of your safe's interior)?

As for you being a " a scatter brain"... well I can't help you there. Sorry.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:16:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
Not a bash but dont think that is the ticket for the long term. Did a quick look 1: price unknown 2: treats 10 sq ft I would need many Ref (Coke machine sized), 3: lasts 24 mos, wont cut it kinda If my initial assumption is wrong please enlighten. Thanks, m-dc



As far as price, shop around. Lots of sites pop up on a Google search. I know some of them list the price (which are reasonable). Emitter cups are avalible in a range of sizes & one will definitely be large enough for your safe (did you calculate the square footage of your safe's interior)?

As for you being a " a scatter brain"... well I can't help you there. Sorry.


No kidding about 72 sq. ft
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 9:36:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 9:39:05 AM EDT by Max_Mike]
A dehumidifier will not work unless the basement is fairly tight (which they usually are not) a golden rod will not work if there are large swings in temperature or cool temperatures and humidity.

You might get away with using a dehumidifier and golden rod for a while maybe years but sooner or later you will get rust.

I suggest one of those oil filled electric heaters. I have been using one for years after a dehumidifier and golden rod let me down and as a bonus the oil filled electric heaters is cheaper to buy and operate.
And put a light coat of oil on the guns.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:25:22 PM EDT
Name brand? Where do you get them? The biggest swing in temp is form 55-60- D.F to 70- D. F. other ten seasonal changes in temp. (MN,) And they are always wearing a thin coat of CPL
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