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9/11/2009 6:30:07 PM EDT
If you could take any weapon to Afghanistan (ie PMC) what would it be.  Say you were doing medevac in Afghanistan.

I would think you want something light/compact, with parts/ammo available in the region, medium range capable and reliable.

I narrowed it down to 3 rifles but keep coming to the same conclusion - M4 which fits all the above criteria.

Aug, M14 (w/ 4x Trijicon T21) or M4 were among my top choices - maybe AK47/74 or Para FAL

Any other recommendations?









9/11/2009 6:31:26 PM EDT
[#1]

9/11/2009 6:32:15 PM EDT
[#2]
M4 with aimpoint or acog
9/11/2009 6:32:47 PM EDT
[#3]
If I was doing medevac in Afghanistan I would go with the Mk18 Mod 0, pretty much exactly like this one:



I am no operator, but it would seem a longer rifle would be more of a burden for a medevac.
9/11/2009 6:33:19 PM EDT
[#4]
AK74
9/11/2009 6:33:58 PM EDT
[#5]


MK18 or MP5SD.





ETA: I'm planning on being one of the medics so something light and maneuverable is what I'd want.



As a soldier as part of the medevac team I'd want the MK18 or an M4 set up like a MK18.
9/11/2009 6:34:11 PM EDT
[#6]
That Aug (MSAR?) looks pretty sick.........

Quoted:
AK74



I might do this just to be oldschool.  It was the rifle that most of the Soviet occupiers used, I think.  

I would probably add a reflex sight to it though.
9/11/2009 6:35:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Plenty of people are surviving just fine with M4's why fix what's not broken. ACOG or Aimpoint magnifier for medium range engagements should do just fine.



 
9/11/2009 6:36:14 PM EDT
[#8]
All of them of course.
9/11/2009 6:36:21 PM EDT
[#9]


9/11/2009 6:36:56 PM EDT
[#10]

The M4 would be good enough for me. It works for the troops.
9/11/2009 6:40:15 PM EDT
[#11]
As Arnold said in Terminator: "All"
9/11/2009 6:40:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If I was doing medevac in Afghanistan I would go with the Mk18 Mod 0, pretty much exactly like this one:

http://www.konstipation.com/stuff/yank/seal/mk18smie4.jpg

I am no operator, but it would seem a longer rifle would be more of a burden for a medevac.


Probably this with an ACOG.
9/11/2009 6:40:47 PM EDT
[#13]
How 'bout the one one the .gov issue's you.


Oh wait....nevermind


9/11/2009 6:42:27 PM EDT
[#14]
I think something with 14 to 18 inch barrel for longer range and accuracy.

I was thinking AK74or krink but not very good to mount optics or PEQ2

Not enough parts around for FAL

Or I could bring my other rifle



PS the Aug is an AXR

9/11/2009 6:45:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I think something with 14 to 18 inch barrel for longer range and accuracy.

I was thinking AK74or krink but not very good to mount optics or PEQ2

Not enough parts around for FAL

Or I could bring my other rifle

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ezgxag.jpg

PS the Aug is an AXR



What exactly are you going to be doing? Treating the wounded? Protection for medevac?
9/11/2009 6:46:33 PM EDT
[#16]
isn't it open terrain with long distances? if so a precision rifle
9/11/2009 6:48:00 PM EDT
[#17]


[/quote]

What exactly are you going to be doing? Treating the wounded? Protection for medevac?[/quote]


If you were going to do both.

9/11/2009 6:49:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
If I was doing medevac in Afghanistan I would go with the Mk18 Mod 0, pretty much exactly like this one:

http://www.konstipation.com/stuff/yank/seal/mk18smie4.jpg

I am no operator, but it would seem a longer rifle would be more of a burden for a medevac.


+1
9/11/2009 6:50:27 PM EDT
[#19]
SOCOM
9/11/2009 6:50:32 PM EDT
[#20]
A flat top AR-10 carbine with a Aimpoint and 3x. Or for 223 a flat top AUG with the same optics.
9/11/2009 6:50:39 PM EDT
[#21]
Staple's "Easy Button"
9/11/2009 6:51:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
If you could take any weapon to Afghanistan (ie PMC) what would it be.  Say you were doing medevac in Afghanistan.

I would think you want something light/compact, with parts/ammo available in the region, medium range capable and reliable.

I narrowed it down to 3 rifles but keep coming to the same conclusion - M4 which fits all the above criteria.

Aug, M14 (w/ 4x Trijicon T21) or M4 were among my top choices - maybe AK47/74 or Para FAL

Any other recommendations?



http://i27.tinypic.com/29moq6d.jpg





Nice collection. Take them all.
9/11/2009 6:51:22 PM EDT
[#23]
.223 Cal AK with some type of optic

9/11/2009 6:51:39 PM EDT
[#24]
And next time put your toes in the pic!
9/11/2009 6:52:41 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:




What exactly are you going to be doing? Treating the wounded? Protection for medevac?[/quote]


If you were going to do both.

[/quote]

Ok then I would definitely go with a shorter barreled weapon. You will most likely be wearing a sling? so a longer weapon will get in the way when treating the wounded, and you might need that second or two it takes for you to unsling the weapon to save a life.
9/11/2009 6:53:45 PM EDT
[#26]
I'd want either an M16A4 with an acog or perhaps an M14 with a good optic. I tend to prefer rifles though.

9/11/2009 6:55:07 PM EDT
[#27]
What ever was most reliable, I was most skilled with, could get ammo and replacement parts for in country.
9/11/2009 6:55:21 PM EDT
[#28]

Aug and AR10 I wouldn't think would have enough parts around if something breaks. Plus 308 is heavy
9/11/2009 6:56:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
And next time put your toes in the pic!


9/11/2009 6:56:42 PM EDT
[#30]
HK416???
9/11/2009 6:56:55 PM EDT
[#31]
FAL, with ACOG.
9/11/2009 6:57:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Where's teh Mini-14???







9/11/2009 6:58:11 PM EDT
[#33]
If your primary job is dealing with wounded, I would go with a short barreled lightweight M4 with an EO or Aimpoint.
9/11/2009 6:58:38 PM EDT
[#34]
not enough parts and too heavy a rifle with heavy ammo

I was also thinking FAL or M14
FAL with 11 or 13 inch barrel and folding stock (OSW)

M14 - more parts and reliable 25 rd mags


I keep coming up with M4, red dot +/- mag. That seems to be the best choice.
9/11/2009 7:00:40 PM EDT
[#35]
.338 Lapua
9/11/2009 7:06:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Depending on the supply chain, I'd go with either an M-4 with a safe-semi-full trigger group, or a select fire DSArms OSW with a metric chitload of BREN gun mags.
9/11/2009 7:06:37 PM EDT
[#37]
A SOCOM
9/11/2009 7:08:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Is this a joke?

A. I WOULD NOT take anything I actually wanted to keep, you would most likely have serious trouble bringing it back, if you even could.
B. I also absolutely would not work for a company that couldn't provide me a decent weapon, or even suggested that I could/should bring my own.
9/11/2009 7:08:31 PM EDT
[#39]
For Medevac, M4 or AUG would be a good choice.  While the M14 is better suited to mountainous fighting, your job isn't fighting; your job is rescuing injured soldiers.  You don't have to win the gunfights, only survive them long enough to get yourself and the men you're helping out.
9/11/2009 7:09:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Para FAL, M4, M14

which ever.
9/11/2009 7:10:03 PM EDT
[#41]
no rifle, ill just barrow the wounded's
9/11/2009 7:18:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Is this for a private safari outing or what?
9/11/2009 7:23:37 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm guessing the guys that want a FAL, M14 or AR10 are providing security for the medics.



A MBR, first and second line gear and a ~25 lb STOMP Medic Pack would be a bitch to deal with while trying to treat and evac a soldier in full battle rattle
9/11/2009 7:35:42 PM EDT
[#44]
styer AUG in 7.62
9/11/2009 7:36:33 PM EDT
[#45]
No doubt in my mind, an M14
9/11/2009 7:40:58 PM EDT
[#46]
I would take a AK47 in 7.62x39.  Honestly out of all the insurgents with AK's that I encountered I only remember one specifically having an AK74.  My reason is simple, ammo, and mags.  If the US military has no problem supplying the ammo, then something that takes M16/M4 mags.  Now, 5.45x39 might be more common in other areas, but in the areas I was in it was 7.62x39 for the most part.  Since we are talking about medevac type ops, then I would try to get a Krink, or a folding stock type AKM.  

There might be times when you get called out to support just the ANA, and it would be better to use the same type of weapon they use.  I also agree with one of the guys above, take something that you don't mind losing.  God forbid that you get shot down, but if you did then the only ammo that might be available while you wait for the Calvary is from the dead enemy.
9/11/2009 7:45:48 PM EDT
[#47]
9mm Hi-point carbine with laza sighting in the forty (dollar) watt range.  
9/11/2009 7:49:24 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


I would take a AK47 in 7.62x39.  Honestly out of all the insurgents with AK's that I encountered I only remember one specifically having an AK74.  My reason is simple, ammo, and mags.  If the US military has no problem supplying the ammo, then something that takes M16/M4 mags.  Now, 5.45x39 might be more common in other areas, but in the areas I was in it was 7.62x39 for the most part.  Since we are talking about medevac type ops, then I would try to get a Krink, or a folding stock type AKM.  



There might be times when you get called out to support just the ANA, and it would be better to use the same type of weapon they use.  I also agree with one of the guys above, take something that you don't mind losing.  God forbid that you get shot down, but if you did then the only ammo that might be available while you wait for the Calvary is from the dead enemy.


As much as people train for it and think about, as far as possibly having to use a battlefield pickup when your rifle jams in the heat of battle or just running out of ammo, I have yet to hear one story of it happening in Afghanistan. Not to say that it doesnt, but it just seems extremely rare. I think people make too much of a fuss about cartridge compatibility with the enemy's.



 
9/11/2009 7:54:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Take the one that has the thing that goes up on it.
9/11/2009 7:58:34 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


I'd want either an M16A4 with an acog or perhaps an M14 with a good optic. I tend to prefer rifles though.


This.





 
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