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4/22/2010 11:53:23 AM EDT
Well a friends parents are having a coyote problem. They are coming 20-30yd from the house. They recently had a lab die and worry now about the other dog being alone. What's some tips to get rid of them?  Shooting is possible and likely lol. Im unsure about what to use?  I have a 30-30, ar, and a 17hmr. Also have a 12ga. I have heard people using 17hmr but that seeems too small for me.
4/22/2010 11:54:34 AM EDT
[#1]
10/22.
17 hmr will work too most likely.  
4/22/2010 11:55:05 AM EDT
[#2]
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"
4/22/2010 11:55:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Call Wormydog.  He'll take care of them.
4/22/2010 11:55:17 AM EDT
[#4]
My dog was de-nutted by them last year. Even posted pics.

The brush is so thick around here it's hard to even see the bastards much less shoot them.
4/22/2010 11:55:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


Oh, yeah.  Post in the HTF to see if someone wants to come get them.
4/22/2010 11:55:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Arfcom party!
4/22/2010 11:56:30 AM EDT
[#7]
the .223 is a great yote rifle

taylor made for the situation you describe

if you want go and get a good digital call and set it up in the area (make sure you have a clear background)

my Colt HBAR is my doggy rifle of choice


(.17 HMR would probably be fine also but I only have a revolver in 17 so I have never given it a whirl)
4/22/2010 11:56:59 AM EDT
[#8]
They could get another big dog or they could start shooting them.

I'd personally use the AR but you could use any of the guns mentioned including the shotgun if they're close enough. They'll usually run at the sight of people.
4/22/2010 11:57:31 AM EDT
[#9]
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My dog was de-nutted by them last year. Even posted pics.

The brush is so thick around here it's hard to even see the bastards much less shoot them.



Neck and nuts is what they usually go for in a fight.

4/22/2010 11:57:41 AM EDT
[#10]
You're asking about what to use? I think I'd be asking myself "are there enough of them that I can get one in every caliber I own?"
4/22/2010 11:58:01 AM EDT
[#11]
Use the 17. Shoot them in the eye.
4/22/2010 11:58:49 AM EDT
[#12]
Last coyote I shot was with an SKS and Russian hollowpoint.

Knocked him dead.
4/22/2010 11:59:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Stake the dog out in the middle of the yard so it gives you 15 yards or so and wait.  Make sure you have a clear field of fire.

Why the angst over which gun to use?  This is arfcom––use ALL of them.

TC

4/22/2010 11:59:22 AM EDT
[#14]
If they are already comfortable coming within 20-30 yards of the house, I say post up on the roof and have a shooting gallery with the AR.
4/22/2010 11:59:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


O I'm sure it will be fun and inbetween bellbrook and waynesville.  

Will a 17hmr be enough?  I have some hollow points for the ar but not sure what is good.
4/22/2010 12:00:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


O I'm sure it will be fun and inbetween bellbrook and waynesville.  

Will a 17hmr be enough?  I have some hollow points for the ar but not sure what is good.



Yes, it's enough if you can make a good shot. Expect it to run off to die elsewhere if you gut shoot it. Anything in an AR will work fine.

4/22/2010 12:01:48 PM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


Well a friends parents are having a coyote problem. They are coming 20-30yd from the house. They recently had a lab die and worry now about the other dog being alone. What's some tips to get rid of them?  Shooting is possible and likely lol. Im unsure about what to use?  I have a 30-30, ar, and a 17hmr. Also have a 12ga. I have heard people using 17hmr but that seeems too small for me.


Do not use the 17 HMR, shot placement is key with a 17 HMR and still to small in my opinion, use the AR or 12 Ga.

I hunt coyotes and use either my AR or 22-250 and in close up brushy areas I use my 12 Ga. I also use a FoxPro caller when calling them in.

Where are you at in Ohio, what County?



 
4/22/2010 12:01:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


O I'm sure it will be fun and inbetween bellbrook and waynesville.  

Will a 17hmr be enough?  I have some hollow points for the ar but not sure what is good.



Winny white box .55 gr FMJ will anchor them all night long

RORG 62 gr FMJ will anchor them all night long

no need for anything exotic

4/22/2010 12:03:30 PM EDT
[#19]
AR15 + wounded rabbit call. I've seen them come running flat out 400 yards over an open field to the rabbit call.

At the rate they run they can get right on top of you before you realize they are there. Any 223/556 round will put one down & if not out you have more rounds to finish the work. Plus for the AR is it'll give you a pretty good chance in hitting  one if it starts running away. You don't really need the 30 round mag for this kind of work,, a couple of 20 rounders have plenty of capacity for a long morning of hunting/shooting.

This reminds me, I need to get a bipod for mine.
4/22/2010 12:04:19 PM EDT
[#20]
I'd swing by with a box of .357 125 grain SJHPs and we'd do song dog testing. Too bad you're way too far away.
4/22/2010 12:08:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Well a friends parents are having a coyote problem. They are coming 20-30yd from the house. They recently had a lab die and worry now about the other dog being alone. What's some tips to get rid of them?  Shooting is possible and likely lol. Im unsure about what to use?  I have a 30-30, ar, and a 17hmr. Also have a 12ga. I have heard people using 17hmr but that seeems too small for me.

Do not use the 17 HMR, shot placement is key with a 17 HMR and still to small in my opinion, use the AR or 12 Ga.
I hunt coyotes and use either my AR or 22-250 and in close up brushy areas I use my 12 Ga. I also use a FoxPro caller when calling them in.
Where are you at in Ohio, what County?
 


Warren edge of Greene county.  Hell if I was there the other night I would shot it with my carry 1911 lol. Looks like the ar and 12ga are making the trip.
4/22/2010 12:11:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Well a friends parents are having a coyote problem. They are coming 20-30yd from the house. They recently had a lab die and worry now about the other dog being alone. What's some tips to get rid of them?  Shooting is possible and likely lol. Im unsure about what to use?  I have a 30-30, ar, and a 17hmr. Also have a 12ga. I have heard people using 17hmr but that seeems too small for me.


AR-15 is one of the best rifles ever made for coyotes.  The 30-30 levergun will flatten them pretty good too.  I'd skip the 17 hmr.

Get some recorded rabbit in distress calls and burn them mangy pests down when they come along to investigate.
4/22/2010 12:13:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


O I'm sure it will be fun and inbetween bellbrook and waynesville.  

Will a 17hmr be enough?  I have some hollow points for the ar but not sure what is good.


Marginal, but it'd work.  In .223, most anything will work.  I always figured 52gr SMKs would be good for busting coyotes.  But if you wanna go cheap, 55gr or 62gr ball will kill them plenty dead.
4/22/2010 12:14:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
In or out of city limits?

How far from SW Ohio?

I'm not seeing a problem, but more of a "fun time to be had by all!"


O I'm sure it will be fun and inbetween bellbrook and waynesville.  

Will a 17hmr be enough?  I have some hollow points for the ar but not sure what is good.


That's where I live. Let me know if you need backup.
4/22/2010 12:16:33 PM EDT
[#25]
You can't beat a 12guage for coyotes at close range. We use the smaller sized buckshot and a full choke out to about 50 yards.
4/22/2010 12:18:03 PM EDT
[#26]
We have two that cruise neighbor houses near me who have young children. A homeless Chow that I have been feeding the last two months keeps them at bay.
4/22/2010 12:21:47 PM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:

You can't beat a 12guage for coyotes at close range. We use the smaller sized buckshot and a full choke out to about 50 yards.


This is good, but I think an AR with a 30 round mag and a red dot is going to do a lot of dmg from 0-100 yards no problem.
4/22/2010 12:32:05 PM EDT
[#28]
AR15. May as well enjoy yourself and receive a little free training while shooting some reactive targets.

 
4/22/2010 12:33:45 PM EDT
[#29]
I've shot them with a .38 Special and they died.  But this was out in the woods with no one around.

Around a home subdivision.......I honestly don't know.

Decades ago, I shot one with an old .38 S&W revolver I had then, and it died.

So you don't need massive power.

ETA:  First shot is a warning, if they come back.......I aim for their body.  Sorry to the PETA folks.  (Both times he/she was eyeing my small doggie.)
4/22/2010 12:38:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
You can't beat a 12guage for coyotes at close range. We use the smaller sized buckshot and a full choke out to about 50 yards.

This is good, but I think an AR with a 30 round mag and a red dot is going to do a lot of dmg from 0-100 yards no problem.


I'd be VERY surprised if Texaspyro is wrong.  That should DEFINITELY do the job IMHO.

But around here, I can't shoot a rifle near a subdivision.......only a shotgun with sabot or shot IIRC.

I've carried a rifle out in the woods but, technically, I think LEO could ticket me for that?  They never have but I think they could have if they wanted to.
4/22/2010 12:43:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
10/22.
17 hmr will work too most likely.  


In my experience, with anything less than a perfect head shot .22LR is very weak medicine for most canines. (have had to shoot some canines killing my chickens) Too great a chance of wounding rather than a straight up kill. Having said that, recently a neighbor dropped a mid sized coyote at about 50 yds with one round of .22LR ('yote was DRT) when he came back for the guy's other little lap dog.

Don't know about 17 HMR.

It's best to follow Uncle Vic's Rule:
"If you can't shoot 'em good, be prepared to shoot 'em a lot."
4/22/2010 12:48:28 PM EDT
[#32]
They aren't in town and not in country lol. We can use whatever as long as we Shoot back not left or right.  So the ar is going with some brown bear HP and some remington cheap stuff.  Got some 00 buck too lol.
4/22/2010 12:57:41 PM EDT
[#33]



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They aren't in town and not in country lol. We can use whatever as long as we Shoot back not left or right.  So the ar is going with some brown bear HP and some remington cheap stuff.  Got some 00 buck too lol.




I have been seeing quite a few Males on the hunt her lately, they have a few mouths to feed



 
4/22/2010 1:02:19 PM EDT
[#34]
BB in 3" mag for the 12 gauge.



Winchester White Box 45 grain HP in .223




4/22/2010 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#35]
In a lot of areas hunting is limited to .22 rimfire so I have a CZ 452 in .22WMR for those kind of critters. Good to 100yds on yotes.
4/22/2010 1:13:17 PM EDT
[#36]


Anatolian Shepherds get a couple..

Also check out the American Mastiff. It's a cross between an Anatolian and English Mastiff
4/22/2010 1:15:57 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Well a friends parents are having a coyote problem. They are coming 20-30yd from the house. They recently had a lab die and worry now about the other dog being alone. What's some tips to get rid of them?  Shooting is possible and likely lol. Im unsure about what to use?  I have a 30-30, ar, and a 17hmr. Also have a 12ga. I have heard people using 17hmr but that seeems too small for me.


AR and NV with IR laser or IR capable Eotech or Aimpoint. A tape of dying rabbit screams will bring them in if they get shy.
Works for me.
4/22/2010 1:19:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Oh how I wish I lived somewhere with a coyote problem. I've spent hours driving and calling with little luck.

Since this sounds like your first time going after them I'd suggest you use either the AR or the shotgun. They are quick buggers so if you are in an area with any cover your window for a shot is going to be pretty short. When you start your stand make sure you are ready. Have a round chambered with your gun at the ready in your lap or on shooting sticks within your grasp. Have your scope set to a reasonable magnification for just about any shot.

I advise you buy a simple closed reed jack rabbit or cottontail distress call. For $10-15 they are very easy to blow so there isn't much of a learning curve to get them to work properly. Get some camo or wear natural tones that blend decently in your area and setup with a tree, brush, hill, or something behind you to limit your outline. Ideally you want the sun at your back with the wind blowing in your face or across. Yotes will circle down wind so use that to your advantage based on the landscape and natural barriers. Set up quietly and try to remain as still as you can. Pay attention to the wind direction so you don't let them scent you moving in. If you get one to come in try to limit any movement to when he isn't looking at you or he is in a draw. If you don't see anything after 25-30 minutes of calling chances are it isn't coming in or it already did and busted you. Most tend to come in between 2 and 12 minutes.

Right now is late in the season with most of the curious yearlings either dead or educated. Good luck.
4/22/2010 1:21:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Take a 5 gallon bucket.  Drill some holes with a  1' bit in the lid and walls.  Put two cats that hate each other in the bucket and put the lid on.  Shake bucket.  Wait for the salivating coyotes to come running.  Blast away with your favorite ammo.  Release cats and pay them for their trouble with warm milk.  



12ga #4 buck with a tight choke can get you out to 40 yards.  Any non-fmj ammo in your ar15 of choice will also work just fine.
4/22/2010 1:23:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Your AR will do just fine.  30-30 is a bit overkill (whatever that means )

I agree with the guy who said post in your hometown forum.  I'm sure there's a few in Ohio who'd be willing to help you out.
4/22/2010 2:25:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Well if they get as close as they say they did I'm going to use the 1911 lol.