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6/21/2013 12:49:36 PM EDT
Since the tinfoil is out to a degree in this thread already allow me to throw this out there.  You know with what we now know the NSA can do, it would probably be a pretty simple matter for them, or even a talented private hacker, to hack the computer on a modern car and lock the doors and jam the accelerator to the floor.  You would be trapped in your car with no way out.  You couldn't even turn it off or throw it in neutral as that the computer would be in control.  And then when you crashed at 140 mph, all evidence would be destroyed.
6/21/2013 12:51:09 PM EDT
[#1]
alright, how in the frick do you delete a post put in the wrong place?
6/21/2013 12:51:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Since the tinfoil is out to a degree in this thread already allow me to throw this out there.  You know with what we now know the NSA can do, it would probably be a pretty simple matter for them, or even a talented private hacker, to hack the computer on a modern car and lock the doors and jam the accelerator to the floor.  You would be trapped in your car with no way out.  You couldn't even turn it off or throw it in neutral as that the computer would be in control.  And then when you crashed at 140 mph, all evidence would be destroyed.

Computer doesn't control the shifter in my car....yet.
6/21/2013 12:51:42 PM EDT
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alright, how in the frick do you delete a post put in the wrong place?


6/21/2013 12:52:05 PM EDT
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alright, how in the frick do you delete a post put in the wrong place?

You don't, mods would have to move it. GD is the perfect place for this thread anyway.
6/21/2013 12:52:39 PM EDT
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6/21/2013 12:52:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Never and I mean never drink the bong water before you post.
6/21/2013 12:54:19 PM EDT
[#7]
I remember this happening to Toyota's a few years ago.

Stupid people can't shift their car into neutral and turn the key.


Stupid people like to post stupid things......

Plus brakes are not fly by wire.

Edited for CoC
6/21/2013 12:54:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Since the tinfoil is out to a degree in this thread already allow me to throw this out there.  You know with what we now know the NSA can do, it would probably be a pretty simple matter for them, or even a talented private hacker, to hack the computer on a modern car and lock the doors and jam the accelerator to the floor.  You would be trapped in your car with no way out.  You couldn't even turn it off or throw it in neutral as that the computer would be in control.  And then when you crashed at 140 mph, all evidence would be destroyed.

Computer doesn't control the shifter in my car....yet.


Manual transmission ftw
Steering and brakes work too.
6/21/2013 12:56:12 PM EDT
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6/21/2013 12:56:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I remember this happening to Toyota's a few years ago.

Stupid people can't shift their car into neutral and turn the key.


Stupid people like to post stupid things......

Plus brakes are not fly by wire.

Edited for CoC


You ain't driving much car if the brakes would do anything but burn up if fighting against an engine in full power.
6/21/2013 12:58:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Sounds legit.

There is just a huge wifi network setup across 100% of the country and all our cars are secretly linked into it. It sucks for those guys that live out in the sticks without broadband, it would be really nice for them if .gov would let them hook up to it as well.
6/21/2013 12:59:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I remember this happening to Toyota's a few years ago.

Stupid people can't shift their car into neutral and turn the key.


Stupid people like to post stupid things......

Plus brakes are not fly by wire.

Edited for CoC


You ain't driving much car if the brakes would do anything but burn up if fighting against an engine in full power.



6/21/2013 1:00:32 PM EDT
[#13]
I always fill up my car with pure grain alcohol and rainwater to defend against this.
6/21/2013 1:00:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Sounds legit.

There is just a huge wifi network setup across 100% of the country and all our cars are secretly linked into it. It sucks for those guys that live out in the sticks without broadband, it would be really nice for them if .gov would let them hook up to it as well.


I haven't ever found any place that OnStar doesn't work.
6/21/2013 1:02:34 PM EDT
[#15]
It's been done before:

http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car
6/21/2013 1:07:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Since the tinfoil is out to a degree in this thread already allow me to throw this out there.  You know with what we now know the NSA can do, it would probably be a pretty simple matter for them, or even a talented private hacker, to hack the computer on a modern car and lock the doors and jam the accelerator to the floor.  You would be trapped in your car with no way out.  You couldn't even turn it off or throw it in neutral as that the computer would be in control.  And then when you crashed at 140 mph, all evidence would be destroyed.






6/21/2013 3:00:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Not much risk to me there.

Although both of my cars contain a computer for the motor, the throttle, brakes, and transmission in both are purely mechanical and human operated.  No one is going to remotely take control of those.  My 300ZX does have a computer to control steering, but only for the rear wheels, and they can only turn 1 or 2 degrees each way, so even if someone did try to take over that part I'm pretty sure that the (power assisted but manually controlled) front steering could compensate with a little finesse.  My other car has more traditional steering, which obviously can't be hacked.
6/21/2013 3:06:26 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
I remember this happening to Toyota's a few years ago.

Stupid people can't shift their car into neutral and turn the key.


Stupid people like to post stupid things......

Plus brakes are not fly by wire.

Edited for CoC


You ain't driving much car if the brakes would do anything but burn up if fighting against an engine in full power.


Wrong!

The braking system on virtually every car in the world (including the high power monsters like the Bugatti Veyron) has more than enough power to bring the car to a stop, even under full throttle.  The only way you'd be unable to stop is if your car had a maintenance issue, or the driver doesn't push hard enough.  If you don't brake hard enough when the engine is fighting you like that, then you can overheat the brakes, causing them to fail.  The correct solution is to apply full braking power so that the car can come to a stop before the brakes overheat.
6/21/2013 3:10:44 PM EDT
[#19]
youz guys are worrying about them taking over your car when they got a drone with a hellfire missile tracking you with your name on it?

they also have space based lasers.

report to the fema reeducation center sofort!
6/21/2013 3:12:52 PM EDT
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subscribed
6/21/2013 3:19:47 PM EDT
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alright, how in the frick do you delete a post put in the wrong place?


Email the NSA and they will do it for you.

6/21/2013 3:22:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Never, ever, post crap like this from your troll account.  At least not from the new one anyway.
6/21/2013 3:28:58 PM EDT
[#23]
far as i know onstar doesn't control the throttle.

THey can shut the power off unlock the doors and a few other things but they'd be hard pressed to crash you at full throttle if you have any common sense.
6/21/2013 4:24:12 PM EDT
[#24]
My car has no key. This is perhaps not feasible on your ratty old Ford, but there will come a day when the OPs tinfoil will be useful.

I think my car has 35 computers in it in various modules, all on a common communication bus.

If the hackers can make Iranian centrifuges go boom, then your car is at risk. My car has upgradable firmware for engine mgmt and trans.

Why would someone want to do this? Maybe you were a reporter writing highly revealing stories about the chosen One?



I would have made this a link, but the site no longer works properly on iPad because of the javascript tracking system.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/hastings-crash-witness-113514329.html
6/21/2013 4:28:49 PM EDT
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youz guys are worrying about them taking over your car when they got a drone with a hellfire missile tracking you with your name on it?

they also have space based lasers.

report to the fema reeducation center sofort!


French black ops hit teams. The French hate us.

6/21/2013 4:32:11 PM EDT
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Quoted:
alright, how in the frick do you delete a post put in the wrong place?


Someone hacked your computer and put your post here.

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6/21/2013 4:36:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I remember this happening to Toyota's a few years ago.

Stupid people can't shift their car into neutral and turn the key.


Stupid people like to post stupid things......

Plus brakes are not fly by wire.

Edited for CoC


You ain't driving much car if the brakes would do anything but burn up if fighting against an engine in full power.


Wrong!

The braking system on virtually every car in the world (including the high power monsters like the Bugatti Veyron) has more than enough power to bring the car to a stop, even under full throttle.  The only way you'd be unable to stop is if your car had a maintenance issue, or the driver doesn't push hard enough.  If you don't brake hard enough when the engine is fighting you like that, then you can overheat the brakes, causing them to fail.  The correct solution is to apply full braking power so that the car can come to a stop before the brakes overheat.


This.

The brakes can overpower the throttle... just stomp them.