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Posted: 5/23/2003 9:42:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Nope. Fall asleep fine. It's about 2-3 hours into the night that I have problems.
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Posted: 5/23/2003 9:46:26 PM EDT
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Insomnia is natures way of giving me the finger. :)
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Posted: 5/23/2003 9:47:25 PM EDT
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I can't sleep/fall asleep for shit either. I work 3rds, so I'm usually needing to crash at about 2/3PM and can never do it. Tonight I got about 1.5hours sleep before my shift! Sometimes I have a couple shots of the Captain to help me get a little tired, but that's only in emergencies. I don't know if I'm an insomniac, or if I just really am bad at a 3rd shift schedule.
Tylenol PM is said to work good for helping people sleep, but beware that taking anything will help you risk addiction, and after a while, you'll probably become amune to it's original effects. Good luck, sorry I can't help much, but I have much empathy for you. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 9:49:07 PM EDT
[#4]
I have the same problem. My solution, drink a lot of beer THEN screw the woman.
Nothin says relaxation like wild, drunken, monkey love! [booze] [sex] [banana] [sleep] |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 10:02:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Start reviewing your failures, shortcomings and personal problems earlier in the day.
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Posted: 5/23/2003 10:05:43 PM EDT
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Most of the time, like now. Even scrips dont help much, a combination of a low activity level and increased pain due to the weather. Tylenol PM is just tylenol and Benadryl, so maybe bennie alone will do it. Good luck, insomnia sux.. Ops
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Posted: 5/23/2003 10:09:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Insomnia is natures way of giving me the finger. :) _ So true... And the Tylenol PM's are very addictive. I would advise anyone who uses or wants to use these to sleep to just buy generic Benadryl. It's the same ingredient that puts you to sleep and you don't have to worry as much about liver damage from acetominaphin. TS Elephant tranqilizer won't put me to sleep. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 10:15:03 PM EDT
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Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.
Don't exercise before you go to bed, don't go to bed until you are falling asleep. If you can't sleep, get up and do something until you are tired. Get up at your regular time. You just need to get your body clock back on track. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 10:22:36 PM EDT
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Here's my trick when I can't sleep.
5-10mg Melatonin 1500mg Calcium 500mg Magnesium 2g Tryptophan 500mg Niacin Take the above about 30-45 min before you want to fall asleep. Works every time for me. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:01:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: 2g Tryptophan Where can I find some of this ?? |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:09:58 PM EDT
[#11]
No matter what I do, it's damn near impossible to get to sleep.
Takes me 5 to 6 hours of laying there before I get remotely sleepy. I can chug a 12 pack, but then I just lay there f*cked up for the same amount of time. And anything involving a woman just wakes me up like I'm on methamphetamines or something... |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:12:08 PM EDT
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... I don't have problems with such unless it's a work related issue I'm wrestling with.
... However Diphenhydramine, commonly known as Benadryl works wonders. Over the counter too. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:15:40 PM EDT
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From "The Tuxedo"...
Big Secret. ALL men have trouble sleeping..." Why do you think we are typing here??? I won't even go into what it takes to put me down.... |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:33:55 PM EDT
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Unfortunately , I do a lot of thinking when I am laying in bed , going over the day , planning the next one , or just day dreaming....so often it is really hard to just get the ole' brain to shut up...
a lot depends on your environment , like your bed ... I found that I actually sleep better on a futon than a regular bed.... also it my depend on who you are sleeping next to....with my last girl of 5 years , I colud just not fall asleep next to her , in a normal night where she'd sleep for 8 hours I'd get like 3... nothin; to do about that though then there is the clown (see sig) t |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:49:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: 2g Tryptophan Where can I find some of this ?? The closest thing I've found to it is 5-hydroxytryptophan, or 5-HTP. Any health store should have that. I usually order from [url=http://www.iherb.com]iHerb[/url]. 5-HTP is most commonly available 100mg capsules. I only take 2-4 capsules and that works fine for me. The book that I got this info from recommends 1-4 grams of tryptophan, but I've had good success with 100-400mg of 5-HTP. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 11:58:32 PM EDT
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Also, if you try what I recommended above and you haven't been taking Niacin regularly, beware of it's skin flushing effect. From what I've read, it's totally harmless, but it may be uncomfortable for some people. I think it's a pretty neat feeling, but if you are worried about it, start off with 50mg or 100mg and gradually build up to 500mg.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 12:04:08 AM EDT
[#17]
I can't sleep for shit either. I usually take a Tylenol PM Extra Strength about 30 minutes before bed. Works pretty good for me.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 4:08:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Never had a problem falling asleep. As soon as I hit the pillow I'm gone; or not long after. Once I'm asleep, NOTHING wakes me up. The wife always tells me of loud storms comming thru at night but never hear them.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 4:41:10 AM EDT
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TigerStripe and Winston_Wolf are 100% correct. This time.[:D] I have used the generic benadryl fro WalMart for years. About 2 hours before I want to crash, I'll eat one of these capsules. It dries out my sinuses but mine are usually snotty anyway. I have pollen allergies.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 5:01:10 AM EDT
[#20]
Tylenol PM works for me.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 5:41:37 AM EDT
[#21]
Take a look at your caffiene intake 4-5 hours before bed. It's a major effect on me, just from sodas.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 6:02:30 AM EDT
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Don't go to bed till you are exhausted. Sleep just how much you need then get up. A short 20 minute nap during the day an make up for any loss of sleep during the night.
The problem most people have is they try too hard. The benydryll works by the way but leaves you a little cloudy in the AM. No stress and a clear concious helps, but I don't know anybody that has that going for them. |
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Posted: 5/24/2003 8:46:56 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: TigerStripe and Winston_Wolf are 100% correct. This time.[:D] Shocking, huh?? TS |
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Posted: 5/24/2003 8:49:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Masturbation.
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Posted: 5/24/2003 8:56:22 AM EDT
[#25]
I have a terrible time falling asleep sometimes.
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:04:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: Masturbation. Masturbation won't put me to sleep. After sex with a woman I'll go to sleep. Except for Joy and maybe the Q3131A chick(I wish). TS |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:22:23 PM EDT
[#27]
As I type this it's 2:07am.. I can never sleep either. I'm always thinking about something and when I lay down I can't shut it off..
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:22:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Ive been getting by with about 3 hours a night .. dont know why.
thing is when I wake up .. Im not tired.. been this way for over a year .. about once a week I catch up on my sleep by craching out as soon as I get home, So basicly 1 12 hour "power nap" a week followed by 3 hour nihts.. dont like it but cant seem to change it.. |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:29:04 PM EDT
[#29]
I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all.
____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:29:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. what is elavil? |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:32:24 PM EDT
[#31]
I work nite shift and sometimes have trouble sleeping during the day light hours, ask you doctor for a prescription for[b] Ambien[/b], I promise you, you will sleep, and yes masturbation does help...[:D]
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:35:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: Quoted: I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. what is elavil? |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:37:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: what is elavil? Talk to your doctor about Elavil. [}:D] Anti-depressant. I take Limbitrol, which is Elavil and Librium. Plus Benadryl. And as you see, I'm up typing. TS |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:43:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep.
____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. |
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Posted: 5/25/2003 11:59:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep. Does it work sufficiently? Limbitrol has the Elavil plus Librium, which is Valium's cousin. That might ease you more. (Damn, I sound like a pusher) TS |
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Posted: 5/26/2003 12:03:49 AM EDT
[#36]
I have Valium (tranquilizer) or Soma(Muscle relaxer)...Both prescriptions
I take Valium usually when I "want" to go to sleep or need to get up early in the morning. Not too often as I wouldn't be able to carry concealed in the Betty Ford Clinic. Soma makes me feel like I have a hangover in the A.M., but it makes my back feel GREAT and puts me out! I don't work (disabled), so I am a night owl anyway... I heard the prescription drug Ambien works great too, but it's a "occasional" drug..(Is that like an occasional pot smoker?) |
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Posted: 5/26/2003 4:32:46 PM EDT
[#37]
Okay, I have held back this long...
Eleavil (amytryptiline) is an anti-depressant with a side effect of drowsiness, and a slight side effect of pain releif (mechanism of pain releif - unknown) Ambien/Librium/Valium/Xanax/Klonopin... (Benzodiazapenes) are very effective at minor sedation, however after a few weeks, they do not work as well, and require a higher dosage. Some of them (Librium, Valium, Ambien) the tolerance is built up quickly, putting you to the maximum 'recommended' dose within a month or two, if taken every night. These are also very addictive, so if you get 'used' to them, you aren't gonna feel very good when you stop (for about 4 days, plan on reading the forums.. :)) Trazadone is another Anti-Depressant that has sedative effects, and is commonly used for non-depressed people as a sleep-aid. Unfortunatly, it has a side effect of increasing agressiveness (like Paxil, but nothing near that bad). Clonodine is a high blood pressure medicine that has very good sedative/sleep side-effects, without making you feel drowsy the whole next day. This drug is also used to help people quit smoking (stops the jitters...). Seroquel is an anti-psychotic drug that will put you to sleep. I don't think "Sleep" is the proper term here, it is more like "voluntary coma". However, when you wake up, you don't feel awake, like you slept, you just wake up and are tired, until you knock yourself out again. You also will not have/remember dreams with this stuff. (That's what I heard, anyway) Best sleep aid: Wake up, be very active all day, eliminate as much stress as you can, attempt meditation (the whole relaxation thing..), and if all else fails, there is alcohol, of which there are many flavors to choose from. [:D] I wouldn't directly know about anything mentioned above, just heard it from different people, and I have the PDR memorized in the event somebody asks me an off-the-wall question... |
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Posted: 5/26/2003 4:42:02 PM EDT
[#38]
Try two aspirin, about 1/2 hour before bedtime. I used to have problems too, and I tried this, being VERY skeptical about the idea. It worked! Apparantly, muscle tension plays a big part in insomnia, and aspirin helps me relax. It doesn't MAKE me relax, it just helps. And it's good for the heart too. You could also try warm milk. Warm milk contains L-tryptophan, which is a sleep aid. Warm milk can be good for you too, as long as you don't mix Scotch with it. ==Bob
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Posted: 5/26/2003 5:11:51 PM EDT
[#39]
I used to have a hard time falling asleep until I found a bench in a quieter part of the park.
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Posted: 5/26/2003 6:29:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Take two Tylenol PM and call me in the morning.
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Posted: 5/26/2003 10:39:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: Quoted: Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep. Does it work sufficiently? Limbitrol has the Elavil plus Librium, which is Valium's cousin. That might ease you more. (Damn, I sound like a pusher) TS Yes it works pretty good, it takes about 2.5 hours to kick in & I sleep for about 6 hours a night. A [red]drug[/red] pusher?? [peep] ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. |
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Posted: 5/26/2003 10:44:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Man, I am always up till 5-6am
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Posted: 5/26/2003 11:44:45 PM EDT
[#43]
Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy.
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Posted: 5/26/2003 11:52:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy. Bullcrap! Eating turkey just makes me want to eat more turkey, so after consuming a pack I have to go to the supermarket to buy more turkey, therefore more time eating less sleepy!!! |
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Posted: 5/26/2003 11:59:57 PM EDT
[#45]
I have trouble sleeping at night, during the day...generally anytime that I need to be sleeping.
My sleeping schedule changes weekly. When I'm working my eight straight nights, I try to be asleep by 6AM. Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not. When I'm off work, I try to turn my schedule around and sleep like a normal person. Doesn't usually work. Most of the time I'm up until 2-3AM and then get up around 9-10AM. I used to take Tylenol PM when I needed sleep, switched over to Tylenol Simply Sleep when it hit the shelves. Same sleep-inducing ingredient as Tylenol PM, sans the pain reducer. It puts me to sleep, but it isn't a restful sleep. |
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Posted: 5/27/2003 12:07:31 AM EDT
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I haven't actually been diagnosed yet, but I strongly suspect I have apnea. A neurologist will tell me the 11th of June.Aside from that, Clonopine (sp?) is part of the 'diazepam' anti-anxiety family.It works good.If you dont feel like seeing the doc or dont have anxiety problems,then Nyquil is the bomb! 10% alcohol, all it takes is one dose,and no hangover.[:D]
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Posted: 5/27/2003 12:12:07 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Okay, I have held back this long... Ambien/Librium/Valium/Xanax/Klonopin... (Benzodiazapenes) are very effective at minor sedation, however after a few weeks, they do not work as well, and [blue]require a higher dosage.[/blue] Some of them (Librium, Valium, Ambien) the tolerance is built up quickly, putting you to the[green] maximum 'recommended' dose within a month or two, if taken every night.[/green] [red] These are also very addictive, so if you get 'used' to them, you aren't gonna feel very good when you stop (for about 4 days, plan on reading the forums.. :)) [/red] I wouldn't directly know about anything mentioned above, just heard it from different people, and I have the PDR memorized in the event somebody asks me an off-the-wall question... TS |
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Posted: 5/27/2003 12:18:53 AM EDT
[#48]
I was always borderline insomniac...as Im sure my posting hours here show...Maybe 3 or 4 hours a night...
Then it got so bad I was going two and three days without sleep. Went to the Docs, thats when they found my high blood sugar. Now that thats treated, I am back to my 3 or 4 hours... And [b]nothing[/b] changes that...Sex, alcohol or drugs, all just get me happy, happier, happiest... But one day we all die, then we can sleep forever, so I dont much worry about it. |
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Posted: 5/27/2003 12:22:08 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: Quoted: Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy. Bullcrap! Eating turkey just makes me want to eat more turkey, so after consuming a pack I have to go to the supermarket to buy more turkey, therefore more time eating less sleepy!!! Maybe your turkey has no hormones? |
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Posted: 5/27/2003 12:25:08 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: Quoted: I wouldn't directly know about anything mentioned above, just heard it from different people, and I have the PDR memorized in the event somebody asks me an off-the-wall question... TS Pusher. [):)] [:D] |
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