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Posted: 5/23/2003 9:26:01 PM EDT
any tricks other than downing a 12 pack or screwing the woman that helps you fall asleep quicker i suck up 1.5 to 2 hours a night trying to fall asleep, it sucks
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:42:46 PM EDT
Nope. Fall asleep fine. It's about 2-3 hours into the night that I have problems.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:46:26 PM EDT
Insomnia is natures way of giving me the finger. :) _
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:47:25 PM EDT
I can't sleep/fall asleep for shit either. I work 3rds, so I'm usually needing to crash at about 2/3PM and can never do it. Tonight I got about 1.5hours sleep before my shift! Sometimes I have a couple shots of the Captain to help me get a little tired, but that's only in emergencies. I don't know if I'm an insomniac, or if I just really am bad at a 3rd shift schedule. Tylenol PM is said to work good for helping people sleep, but beware that taking anything will help you risk addiction, and after a while, you'll probably become amune to it's original effects. Good luck, sorry I can't help much, but I have much empathy for you.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:49:07 PM EDT
I have the same problem. My solution, drink a lot of beer THEN screw the woman. Nothin says relaxation like wild, drunken, monkey love! [booze] [sex] [banana] [sleep]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:02:11 PM EDT
Start reviewing your failures, shortcomings and personal problems earlier in the day. cynic
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:05:43 PM EDT
Most of the time, like now. Even scrips dont help much, a combination of a low activity level and increased pain due to the weather. Tylenol PM is just tylenol and Benadryl, so maybe bennie alone will do it. Good luck, insomnia sux.. Ops
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:09:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Trog777: Insomnia is natures way of giving me the finger. :) _
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So true... And the Tylenol PM's are very addictive. I would advise anyone who uses or wants to use these to sleep to just buy generic Benadryl. It's the same ingredient that puts you to sleep and you don't have to worry as much about liver damage from acetominaphin. TS Elephant tranqilizer won't put me to sleep.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:15:03 PM EDT
Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise. Don't exercise before you go to bed, don't go to bed until you are falling asleep. If you can't sleep, get up and do something until you are tired. Get up at your regular time. You just need to get your body clock back on track.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:22:36 PM EDT
Here's my trick when I can't sleep. 5-10mg Melatonin 1500mg Calcium 500mg Magnesium 2g Tryptophan 500mg Niacin Take the above about 30-45 min before you want to fall asleep. Works every time for me.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:01:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sr15: 2g Tryptophan
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Where can I find some of this ??
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:09:58 PM EDT
No matter what I do, it's damn near impossible to get to sleep. Takes me 5 to 6 hours of laying there before I get remotely sleepy. I can chug a 12 pack, but then I just lay there f*cked up for the same amount of time. And anything involving a woman just wakes me up like I'm on methamphetamines or something...
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:12:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 11:12:57 PM EDT by Winston_Wolf]
... I don't have problems with such unless it's a work related issue I'm wrestling with. ... However Diphenhydramine, commonly known as Benadryl works wonders. Over the counter too.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:15:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:33:55 PM EDT
Unfortunately , I do a lot of thinking when I am laying in bed , going over the day , planning the next one , or just day dreaming....so often it is really hard to just get the ole' brain to shut up... a lot depends on your environment , like your bed ... I found that I actually sleep better on a futon than a regular bed.... also it my depend on who you are sleeping next to....with my last girl of 5 years , I colud just not fall asleep next to her , in a normal night where she'd sleep for 8 hours I'd get like 3... nothin; to do about that though then there is the clown (see sig) t
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:49:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cnatra:
Originally Posted By sr15: 2g Tryptophan
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Where can I find some of this ??
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The closest thing I've found to it is 5-hydroxytryptophan, or 5-HTP. Any health store should have that. I usually order from [url=http://www.iherb.com]iHerb[/url]. 5-HTP is most commonly available 100mg capsules. I only take 2-4 capsules and that works fine for me. The book that I got this info from recommends 1-4 grams of tryptophan, but I've had good success with 100-400mg of 5-HTP.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 11:58:32 PM EDT
Also, if you try what I recommended above and you haven't been taking Niacin regularly, beware of it's skin flushing effect. From what I've read, it's totally harmless, but it may be uncomfortable for some people. I think it's a pretty neat feeling, but if you are worried about it, start off with 50mg or 100mg and gradually build up to 500mg.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 12:04:08 AM EDT
I can't sleep for shit either. I usually take a Tylenol PM Extra Strength about 30 minutes before bed. Works pretty good for me.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 4:08:10 AM EDT
Never had a problem falling asleep. As soon as I hit the pillow I'm gone; or not long after. Once I'm asleep, NOTHING wakes me up. The wife always tells me of loud storms comming thru at night but never hear them.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 4:41:10 AM EDT
TigerStripe and Winston_Wolf are 100% correct. This time.[:D] I have used the generic benadryl fro WalMart for years. About 2 hours before I want to crash, I'll eat one of these capsules. It dries out my sinuses but mine are usually snotty anyway. I have pollen allergies.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 5:01:10 AM EDT
Tylenol PM works for me.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 5:41:37 AM EDT
Take a look at your caffiene intake 4-5 hours before bed. It's a major effect on me, just from sodas.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 6:02:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 8:46:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Pangea: TigerStripe and Winston_Wolf are 100% correct. This time.[:D]
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Shocking, huh?? TS
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 8:49:16 AM EDT
Masturbation.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 8:56:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:04:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe: Masturbation.
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Masturbation won't put me to sleep. After sex with a woman I'll go to sleep. Except for Joy and maybe the Q3131A chick(I wish). TS
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:22:23 PM EDT
As I type this it's 2:07am.. I can never sleep either. I'm always thinking about something and when I lay down I can't shut it off..
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:22:58 PM EDT
Ive been getting by with about 3 hours a night .. dont know why. thing is when I wake up .. Im not tired.. been this way for over a year .. about once a week I catch up on my sleep by craching out as soon as I get home, So basicly 1 12 hour "power nap" a week followed by 3 hour nihts.. dont like it but cant seem to change it..
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:29:04 PM EDT
I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:29:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ColtShorty: I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
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what is elavil?
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:32:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2003 11:34:11 PM EDT by Confederate]
I work nite shift and sometimes have trouble sleeping during the day light hours, ask you doctor for a prescription for[b] Ambien[/b], I promise you, you will sleep, and yes masturbation does help...[:D]
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:35:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
Originally Posted By ColtShorty: I have take 3 50mg tablets of Elavil every night, otherwise I will not sleep at all. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
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what is elavil?
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Prescription drug.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:37:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Red_Beard: what is elavil?
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Talk to your doctor about Elavil. [}:D] Anti-depressant. I take Limbitrol, which is Elavil and Librium. Plus Benadryl. And as you see, I'm up typing. TS
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:43:07 PM EDT
Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:59:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ColtShorty: Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep.
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Does it work sufficiently? Limbitrol has the Elavil plus Librium, which is Valium's cousin. That might ease you more. (Damn, I sound like a pusher) TS
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:03:49 AM EDT
I have Valium (tranquilizer) or Soma(Muscle relaxer)...Both prescriptions I take Valium usually when I "want" to go to sleep or need to get up early in the morning. Not too often as I wouldn't be able to carry concealed in the Betty Ford Clinic. Soma makes me feel like I have a hangover in the A.M., but it makes my back feel GREAT and puts me out! I don't work (disabled), so I am a night owl anyway... I heard the prescription drug Ambien works great too, but it's a "occasional" drug..(Is that like an occasional pot smoker?)
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 4:32:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 4:37:14 PM EDT by brasspile]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 4:42:02 PM EDT
Try two aspirin, about 1/2 hour before bedtime. I used to have problems too, and I tried this, being VERY skeptical about the idea. It worked! Apparantly, muscle tension plays a big part in insomnia, and aspirin helps me relax. It doesn't MAKE me relax, it just helps. And it's good for the heart too. You could also try warm milk. Warm milk contains L-tryptophan, which is a sleep aid. Warm milk can be good for you too, as long as you don't mix Scotch with it. ==Bob
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 5:11:51 PM EDT
I used to have a hard time falling asleep until I found a bench in a quieter part of the park.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:29:50 PM EDT
Take two Tylenol PM and call me in the morning.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:39:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TigerStripe:
Originally Posted By ColtShorty: Elavil (Amitriptyline) is an antidepressant with sedative effects. I'm in a great deal of pain all of the time & Elavil is the only drug that I've tried that will help me sleep.
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Does it work sufficiently? Limbitrol has the Elavil plus Librium, which is Valium's cousin. That might ease you more. (Damn, I sound like a pusher) TS
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Yes it works pretty good, it takes about 2.5 hours to kick in & I sleep for about 6 hours a night. A [red]drug[/red] pusher?? [peep] ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:44:27 PM EDT
Man, I am always up till 5-6am
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:44:45 PM EDT
Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:52:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SeaDweller: Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy.
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Bullcrap! Eating turkey just makes me want to eat more turkey, so after consuming a pack I have to go to the supermarket to buy more turkey, therefore more time eating less sleepy!!!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:59:57 PM EDT
I have trouble sleeping at night, during the day...generally anytime that I need to be sleeping. My sleeping schedule changes weekly. When I'm working my eight straight nights, I try to be asleep by 6AM. Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not. When I'm off work, I try to turn my schedule around and sleep like a normal person. Doesn't usually work. Most of the time I'm up until 2-3AM and then get up around 9-10AM. I used to take Tylenol PM when I needed sleep, switched over to Tylenol Simply Sleep when it hit the shelves. Same sleep-inducing ingredient as Tylenol PM, sans the pain reducer. It puts me to sleep, but it isn't a restful sleep.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:07:31 AM EDT
I haven't actually been diagnosed yet, but I strongly suspect I have apnea. A neurologist will tell me the 11th of June.Aside from that, Clonopine (sp?) is part of the 'diazepam' anti-anxiety family.It works good.If you dont feel like seeing the doc or dont have anxiety problems,then Nyquil is the bomb! 10% alcohol, all it takes is one dose,and no hangover.[:D]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:12:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By brasspile: Okay, I have held back this long... Ambien/Librium/Valium/Xanax/Klonopin... (Benzodiazapenes) are very effective at minor sedation, however after a few weeks, they do not work as well, and [blue]require a higher dosage.[/blue] Some of them (Librium, Valium, Ambien) the tolerance is built up quickly, putting you to the[green] maximum 'recommended' dose within a month or two, if taken every night.[/green] [red] These are also very addictive, so if you get 'used' to them, you aren't gonna feel very good when you stop (for about 4 days, plan on reading the forums.. :)) [/red]
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This is very true.
I wouldn't directly know about anything mentioned above, just heard it from different people, and I have the PDR memorized in the event somebody asks me an off-the-wall question...
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I have it memorized as well. TS
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:18:53 AM EDT
I was always borderline insomniac...as Im sure my posting hours here show...Maybe 3 or 4 hours a night... Then it got so bad I was going two and three days without sleep. Went to the Docs, thats when they found my high blood sugar. Now that thats treated, I am back to my 3 or 4 hours... And [b]nothing[/b] changes that...Sex, alcohol or drugs, all just get me happy, happier, happiest... But one day we all die, then we can sleep forever, so I dont much worry about it.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:22:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NME:
Originally Posted By SeaDweller: Eat some turkey, it always makes you sleepy.
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Bullcrap! Eating turkey just makes me want to eat more turkey, so after consuming a pack I have to go to the supermarket to buy more turkey, therefore more time eating less sleepy!!!
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Maybe your turkey has no hormones?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:25:08 AM EDT
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