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Posted: 10/24/2001 11:38:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 11:41:40 AM EDT
[#1]
Damn.
It was Frank?
Wow. I wouldn't have guessed it. [:(]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 12:01:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Sorry to hear that myself, seemed like an ok guy.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 12:22:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Well, dare I say that it looks like Frank got Spanked?
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 12:53:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Are you sure it was Frank?  I mean, I'm sure you are sure, but....

So was it Frank last time too (about 5-6 mos. ago)?
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 1:03:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Kinda' hard to believe it was Frank. I always checked out any thread of his. He was always coming up with off the wall stuff and was good for a laugh. He was one of the coolest dudes here.

I did miss yesterdays exictment though. From the sounds of it I'm not sorry.

I just never figured he would do something like that.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 1:13:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Damn that was dumb! Any body know that you can't get a new log in name and hide your self.
There is only so much one can do to hide your IP.
That sort'a gutless,I set my self up a new name cuz I did not like the old one and even tell people.

What the heck could somebody on the net say to make you want to act like damn kid anyway.
most people here are just mess'en with you anyway.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 2:06:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Well, FrankTheSpank posted some SCAT pics for shock effect on McUZI.com once. I asked him not to, and he didn't anymore. So, the history is there.

Still.

I hope the accusation is based on an IP traceroute (Frank lives in the Bay Area) rather than him posting those pic in the past.
Let's face it. SCAT is about the nastiest stuff out there. Anyone could post it for shock effect- without it being FrankTheSpank.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 2:38:34 PM EDT
[#8]
I heard about this last night but I really could not believe it since he seems to be an OK guy.

I think that being unemployed does make you lose it sometimes.

Hope he is well where he is.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 2:58:40 PM EDT
[#9]
GB, good job.  You tracked him down, then didn't overreact.  Posting his personal information, as I saw others request, would be something you couldn't take back.  If anything happened to him, I don't think you'd want to feel responsible.  I think your reaction says a lot about the kind of strong person you are.  I'm glad to see that we haven't worn you down yet with the constant barrage of demands.z
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:23:16 PM EDT
[#10]
frankie, that scat stuff was a bad idea.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:27:09 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:28:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:15:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I am constantly amazed at what gets people off.

So Frank is into watching people poop, let him have a kid or two and the fascination will wear off.

It is rather amusing the extremes these people go to get a good purge going, but to most (normal) people I gather it would be rather repulsive.

All in all, as far as porn goes, it is right down there with chick with uh...hmmm....penis's, men wearing pantyhose and anything that involves farm animals.

{edited because I couldn't spell PORN right, even after three tries (must be going blind)]

Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:19:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:25:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Leave for a couple of weeks and it all goes to hell.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:29:13 PM EDT
[#16]
I agree.
Whoever did that should be hammered.
DOS attack?
That's a stretch.
Hell. I couln't even imagine the bandwidth this site eats, I doubt a few threads posted in rapid sucession could do a darn thing. [:)]

Smart grasshopper raises the time allotted between posts though.
A Linux cluster with say 10 PC's or better running a SLAM program in tandem could definitley gnaw some wicked bandwidth.
It's not like it would delete any file trees, but it for damn sure would grind any site to a halt.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:38:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:39:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 4:50:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Man, I can't believe it was FTS!  What the hell set him off anyway, I must have missed it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:17:11 PM EDT
[#20]
"I never understood why anyone would mess with a GUN OWNER board... do they have a death wish??? heehee"

No they just don't know you can find out who iy is I gess.
Thats way it's funny as hell that you did.


Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:27:54 PM EDT
[#21]
I remember reading some of his posts.  A lot of them seemed to be a cry for help in my opinion; everybody at work hates me for some reason, I don't like the people I call my friends, etc.  Me and a lot of other board members expended significant effort to try and brighten up his spirits and give him some advice.  And this type of behavior is his reaction?

GoatBoy, save us all a ton of potential trouble and ban this guy - clearly he's displaying that he is on a downward spiral and where he'll end up is a place nobody needs to be around.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:34:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I remember reading some of his posts.  A lot of them seemed to be a cry for help in my opinion; everybody at work hates me for some reason, I don't like the people I call my friends, etc.  Me and a lot of other board members expended significant effort to try and brighten up his spirits and give him some advice.  And this type of behavior is his reaction?

GoatBoy, save us all a ton of potential trouble and ban this guy - clearly he's displaying that he is on a downward spiral and where he'll end up is a place nobody needs to be around.
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Imbroglio?
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:36:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I am constantly amazed at what gets people off.

So Frank is into watching people poop, let him have a kid or two and the fascination will wear off.


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lol  NO KIDDIN!
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:38:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Technically with the amount of stuff he's posted in the short amount of time, it could qualify as a DOS attempt (have a check into it with the FBI as we speak) so it's a pretty big deal to be risking... I just don't understand.
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GB, as a computer security professional, I can't see how posting pictures would qualify as a DoS.  The service was never interuppted in such a way that people could not access content, it's just that the content was disgusting and disturbing by most peoples' standards.  It's more like harassment.  However, if he really did post kid porn, as has been previously stated, then that's a whole different ball of wax.

God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:47:06 PM EDT
[#25]
[img]wsphotofews.excite.com/004/Ud/3f/nf/AJ69346.jpg[/img]

"And so I says, so I says, so I says 'you ain't gettin no thought helmet on me, you jackbooted thug' and he says, he says, 'yes I am' and so I says, I says, 'no way you damned government robot' and he says he says 'you're going to pay for this' and I says, I says, 'see you in hell, Agent Orange'."
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:51:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
"I never understood why anyone would mess with a GUN OWNER board... do they have a death wish??? heehee"

No they just don't know you can find out who iy is I gess.
Thats way it's funny as hell that you did.

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Most people suffer from thinking they are anonymous on the internet.  While there are steps you can take to try and hide yourself, you are never truly anonymous.  It's just a matter of how well you hide yourself.  I'm using a proxy right now because the corporate firewall doesn't allow access to ar15.com from the outside, but a simple java applet or perl script on the server could get my real IP address, regardless of a proxy.

I tracked down some of the kids who were in the group that broke into whitehouse.gov.  They called themselves global Hell, or gH for short, and their leader was a kid by the name of Mosthated.  He had broken into some servers that were colocated where I worked and I ran into him on IRC where I told him that other people wouldn't be as forgiving as I was.  He didn't listen and kept breaking into other people's machines, so I ended up writing a little program that tracked him on IRC.  He would use proxies all throughout North America and Europe that people hadn't secured to hide where he was coming from and idle his IRC client.  After a while, one of the proxies he and his friends would use would go down or the owner would notice the connection and kill it, causing his IRC connection to die and come back up giving up his real IP address.  He was using a local ISP that I had contacts with, but I could have just as easily socially engineered them.  I had all his information (his name, mom's name, home address, phone number, etc.) the day the FBI raided his house and confiscated all his equipment.  I was just going to go over and give him a scare, but the FBI came down on him and the rest of gH before I got a chance.  The kid was 19 years old and his name was Patrick Gregory.  Last I heard, this so-called computer genius (what hacker runs Windows?) missed his federal idnictment hearing because he was in county lockup for assault and grand theft auto.  I'm sure he's serving his sentence by now.

God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 6:45:38 PM EDT
[#27]
I figured it was Frank due to the way he was treated by moderators in the chat room the other night. I would say he has done this as his last act of defiance because he knew he would not be welcomed here any more.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 7:07:11 PM EDT
[#28]
I just want to point out that it wasn't me. I'm here to make you think. Not puke.FTS, wherever you are...Cut that shit out!
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 7:23:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I figured it was Frank due to the way he was treated by moderators in the chat room the other night. I would say he has done this as his last act of defiance because he knew he would not be welcomed here any more.
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David, could you expand upon this for those of us who weren't there?  

I like FranktheSpank, I truly hope it wasn't him, but it looks like it was.  Perhaps the guy had some 'reason' to act as he did, although I think he went WAAAY overboard with his act of defiance.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 7:25:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Actually the ‘content’ posted was damaging to the site.
I think you could bill him for recovery time, litigation time and lost revenue because of the two.
It was clearly a disruption to the service ... I quit browsing for fear of looking at some dude munching on excrement.

- Gotta LOVE that DMCA

Link Posted: 10/24/2001 7:58:29 PM EDT
[#31]
I also like Frank The Spank.  

He was really witty most of the time...

I guess being jobless finally got to him.

"Scat" = YUCK !!!
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 3:00:19 AM EDT
[#32]

Last I heard, this so-called computer genius (what hacker runs Windows?) missed his federal idnictment hearing because he was in county lockup for assault and grand theft auto.  I'm sure he's serving his sentence by now.
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Let's hope FTS/JesusChrist/ScatMan/|II|I||I||I| is listening.  

Why I am willing to bet he is not...

I was here for attack 1, and 1 was enough for me.[IMG]http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/tweetz/scared.gif[/IMG]The folks depicted have some serious problems.
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 3:13:10 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
He was using a local ISP that I had contacts with, but I could have just as easily socially engineered them.  
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Ahhh... Social Engineering. Ain't easy my man.
Not like it used to be.
Hell. I tried to close a damn AOL account that was under teh CC# of an ex-girlfriend. They wouldn't even let me do that!

The old days of..

[i]"Hello! I am Mr. Hacksworth and i'm a tech mgr. here down in Bldg. 3- Could I have the gate key password for (so-and-so program)? Mr. (Boss's name here) wants me to run a diagnostic check"[/i]

[:D]

If you can still rely on S.E. to get info, I give you props my good sir.
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 4:20:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:

[size=1][i]I know what SCAT means, but WTF does that stand for anyway?[/i][/size=1]
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Around here it stands for
Space Coast Area Transit. It actually says that on all the busses. Sometimes in letters 3 feet tall!
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 4:24:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Darn straight Social Engineering ain't easy these days, I couldn't close _my_ account with AT&T cuz I couldn't remember my 'security code'
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 3:25:23 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Perhaps the guy had some 'reason' to act as he did, although I think he went WAAAY overboard with his act of defiance.
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Sure, in the same way that bin Laden and his group had a "reason" to blow up the World Trade Centers.  I only hope "reason" does not equate "excuse".
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 3:54:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:


Sure, in the same way that bin Laden and his group had a "reason" to blow up the World Trade Centers.  I only hope "reason" does not equate "excuse".
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No, just that when you are used to having and fella around, and he seems like a good guy, and suddenly he goes ape-shit, you start searching for reasons.

Not and excuse, just some understanding.

Personally, his attack didn't effect me, because after the first post, I ignored it all.  But I understand why everyone is so upset over the matter.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 4:46:03 PM EDT
[#38]
I thought that Franks posts where interesting but that sh-t that he posted was plain sick and any one who would look and post that stuff is also. Frank, go get the help that you most definitly need!


BKVic
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