Posted: 9/3/2009 11:51:08 AM EDT
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Fox news this a.m.. Father and mother say she is lying.. Darn it, I missed Fox News this morning! What did they say she was lying about? Converting to Christainity, or being afraid the father would kill her? I read that they allowed her to be a cheerleader. The parent point to this to indicate that they are not radical muslim. The girl claims that she has been physically abused. I'm not sure where to weigh in. On one hand, it sounds just like the streams of lies we get when dealing with any muslim issue. On the other hand, the girl could just be a little pain in the ass brat. |
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Gee a runaway lying, oh wait islam is involved, switch to full gullibility mode! STOP THE PRESSES!! ALL RUNAWAYS ARE LIARS!!  Come on, you're making quite an assumption / assertion.
The point is that probably none of us here on ARFCOM knows the whole story. It's possible that she's a lying nutcase runaway, in which case she needs help. It's possible that she's telling the truth, in which case she needs help. |
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Whatever the situation pertaining to returning this youngster to the costudy of her parents if this is what Florida state law requires, then I believe under the curcumstances that this teenager should leave that state and reside with friends or other relations sympathetic to her cause and claims for now.
I believe also that she should stay estranged from her parents, until either the truth about her father's alleged death threats and abuse can be fully established or found to be baseless, and if the allegations are found to be valid according to state of federal law, charges be brought against him or any other party connected, and the decision concening this man's guilt or innocence, be established by a jury of his peers. I'm sure if an option like this were made to her, if her allegations are in fact true, and a clear threat to her saftey and well-being, then she would most likely agree to hide out, until the threat no longer presented itself as it might now. Hopefully, the state will feel the same way. Thanks, SAE |
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i say she is 17 she can make here own choice This was my stance on another debate forum. Legally emancipate her and she's got what she wants and the parents don't have to worry about being legally responsible for her. If the father is going to kill her, he'll do it anyway. At least she'll have the opportunity to make it harder for him. If she's lying and he wouldn't do it, then perhaps the responsibility of being on her own will help her grow up and realize the pain and damage she's caused. |
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Well, the courts have desided, atleast for now, to allow Rifqa to stay with the people she is, and has been residing with. Hopefully she will be allowed to turn 18, which is pretty soon I think, before they deside to go back in to court for any further decisions. There have been family killings done in this country, by Muslims under their religious laws.  They're pretty determined to keep this in court until they win. I hope her lawyers are better. |
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The police determined that her claims were unfounded
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/14/florida.muslim.convert/index.html Police: No evidence teen was threatened over Christianity * Story Highlights * Rifqa Bary, 17, says Muslim father threatened to kill her for converting * She ran from Ohio to Christian church in Florida; she's now in foster care * Police say they can find no evidence of father's threats * Family has been ordered into mediation by Florida court From John Couwels (CNN) –– A Florida law enforcement report has found no credible evidence that a teenager's father threatened to kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity. Rifqa Bary, 17, says a mosque told her family to "deal with the situation" of her Christian conversion. Rifqa Bary, 17, says a mosque told her family to "deal with the situation" of her Christian conversion. The 17-year-old girl, Rifqa Bary, ran away from her family in Columbus, Ohio, in July and took refuge in the home of the Rev. Blake Lorenz with the Global Revolution Church in Orlando, Florida. The girl was moved into foster care under the supervision of Florida's Department of Children and Family after she said in a sworn affidavit that her Muslim father threatened her. An investigative report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement was released Monday after a juvenile court seal order expired. "Our investigation has provided no clear evidence of criminal activity," said the state report. Investigators stated they could not find any evidence to support a history of abuse. A teacher at the girl's high school told investigators she had no reports or evidence of abuse. The girl had told investigators her father never saw her in her school cheerleading outfit because she feared his disapproval. But investigators stated in the report they saw pictures of the girl in her cheerleading uniform prominently displayed in the living room of the Bary's Ohio home. The teenager, in a sworn affidavit, said her father, 47, was pressured by the mosque the family attends in Ohio to "deal with the situation." In the court filing, Rifqa Bary stated her father said, "If you have this Jesus in your heart, you are dead to me!" The teenager said her father added, "I will kill you!" The parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, denied anyone had threatened their daughter including themselves. "We wouldn't do her harm," the father said during a court hearing earlier this month, adding that he knew his daughter was involved with Christian organizations. "I have no problem with her practicing any faith," he said. But Bary conceded he would have preferred that his daughter practice the Muslim faith first. After she left home, the girl's parents reported her missing to Columbus police, who found her two weeks later in Florida through cell phone records. The teen had heard of Lorenz and his church through a prayer group on the social networking Web site Facebook. The judge in the case has ordered the family into mediation. A court hearing is scheduled next week to hear arguments including one filed from the parents attorney asking the court to dismiss the case. |
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if she's returned, what's to keep her parents from taking her back to sri lanka (or where ever she's from originally) and killing her there or having other family members there kill her?
she's 17. let her make her own decisions. if she's right, it'll save her life. if she's wrong, like was mentioned above, maybe she'll one day realize the pain she's caused. however, in this case, i think it's better safe than sorry. |
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What would the reaction here be if a 17 year old girl met an Iman on Facebook, became muslim and moved to another state at the Imam's request? No record of abuse, the girl was a cheerleader, hardly a sport that some Taliban type who would kill his own kid would allow. On the other hand the minister has ranted about the usual Holy War nonsense. No evidence supports her claims and the ministers own statements give clear indication what he is up to. |
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What would the reaction here be if a 17 year old girl met an Iman on Facebook, became muslim and moved to another state at the Imam's request? No record of abuse, the girl was a cheerleader, hardly a sport that some Taliban type who would kill his own kid would allow. On the other hand the minister has ranted about the usual Holy War nonsense. No evidence supports her claims and the ministers own statements give clear indication what he is up to. I think we both know the answer to that one. I know the good Reverend has my spidey sense tingling. |