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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:19:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/22/2017 7:26:31 AM EST by Will]
Was reading 1984 again, this is probably the 5th or 6th time. For such a slim volume I pick up more every time I read it.....That particular line, that's exactly what the whole Statue controversy is about. 1984 is a fucking blueprint for the Left.

Unless something dramatically changes I fear Orwell was right when he said, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." Oh, and that "something", won't be the election of a less Left candidate with an R next to his or her name....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:22:44 AM EST
lol

GD don't care.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:25:37 AM EST
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GD don't care.
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There are a few that do, though even here it seems the number is smaller all the time.....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:39:24 AM EST
It will always be the few.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:41:10 AM EST
You will soon be visiting the Ministry of Love.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:55:52 AM EST
I suppose Alex Jones' station is aptly named.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:07:38 AM EST
I feel stupid now...I always thought that was just Rage Against The Machine lyrics...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:19:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DisplacedOkie:
I feel stupid now...I always thought that was just Rage Against The Machine lyrics...
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Now testify!
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:28:03 AM EST
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I feel stupid now...I always thought that was just Rage Against The Machine lyrics...
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Well, to be fair, it IS one of their lyrics.....It's just lifted from Orwell....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:29:30 AM EST
God controls the past present and future...Satan and man's pathetic attempts that gain traction notwithstanding.

The end is assured it was won at Calvary.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:32:53 AM EST
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I feel stupid now...I always thought that was just Rage Against The Machine lyrics...
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Zack de la Rocha and Tom Morello are commies, now you know why that's in that song....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:35:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
God controls the past present and future...Satan and man's pathetic attempts that gain traction notwithstanding.

The end is assured it was won at Calvary.
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As Bob Marley once said, "Everyone wanna go Heaven, Nobody wanna get dead".......I hear what you're saying, but I think Marley has the better argument for most of us mortals.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:35:43 AM EST
These are certainly blatant attempts at suppressing history, but I think it's a political move that will backfire and will further paint the Democrat's as intolerant fascists. They do not have a great history. Nobody is donating to the DNC. They are/will be under investigation if our suspicions about how they operate are true. They are crumbling.

If we really want to destroy them, and I've gotten tired of saying this because nobody wants to do it, we need a massive effort of cancelling our cable and satellite and stating that we are tired of supporting channels that we do not agree with politically who politicize everything. They will lose subscription money and ad revenue. The media is the underlying cause of our issues.
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These are certainly blatant attempts at suppressing history, but I think it's a political move that will backfire and will further paint the Democrat's as intolerant fascists. They do not have a great history. Nobody is donating to the DNC. They are/will be under investigation if our suspicions about how they operate are true. They are crumbling.

If we really want to destroy them, and I've gotten tired of saying this because nobody wants to do it, we need a massive effort of cancelling our cable and satellite and stating that we are tired of supporting channels that we do not agree with politically who politicize everything. They will lose subscription money and ad revenue..
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I don't see the media doing anything but jamming the throttles against the firewall.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:52:36 AM EST
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:



It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
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I don't see the media doing anything but jamming the throttles against the firewall.
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People are tired of the media. Trump was elected despite them.
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And yet you still have people tripping over themselves to defend the Mainstream Media talking points about Charlottesville. Including MANY who are ostensibly on "our side"....They are getting their "news and opinions" from somewhere....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:22:12 AM EST
This is one that they have mastered.

“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”

"We are protesting for the 1st amendment! We will kill you for speaking!"

This is one that I believe describes the ultimate motives of these dangerous tools and the powers that are using them.

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

Laughing about the silly antics of these kids and their little tantrums is a mistake. Taking down statues and re-writing bits of history isn't their goal, it's a means to achieve more important ends.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
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The only counterforce to leftist education is reality itself

many young people believe leftist BS in school, only to be SHOCKED IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE LIES RESULT IN THIER OWN FAILURE
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:36:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
This is one that they have mastered.

“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”

"We are protesting for the 1st amendment! We will kill you for speaking!"

This is one that I believe describes the ultimate motives of these dangerous tools and the powers that are using them.

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

Laughing about the silly antics of these kids and their little tantrums is a mistake. Taking down statues and re-writing bits of history isn't their goal, it's a means to achieve more important ends.
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Indeed....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:48:32 AM EST
who controls the spice controls the universe!!!
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Originally Posted By RealFitness86:
The only counterforce to leftist education is reality itself

many young people believe leftist BS in school, only to be SHOCKED IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE LIES RESULT IN THIER OWN FAILURE
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Originally Posted By RealFitness86:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
The only counterforce to leftist education is reality itself

many young people believe leftist BS in school, only to be SHOCKED IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE LIES RESULT IN THIER OWN FAILURE
Then what happens?

Growth of government jobs for the incompetent.
Food stamps for the unproductive.
Housing for the stagnant.

Paid for by productive people. Given the expected growth of leftist ideology, eventually the productive can't support the leeches. At least voluntarily.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

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How about a cite for the bolded?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:34:37 AM EST
Someone has a signature that includes how the future is going to be a mashup of 1984 and Idiocracy.  That's my favorite.
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Then what happens?

Growth of government jobs for the incompetent.
Food stamps for the unproductive.
Housing for the stagnant.

Paid for by productive people. Given the expected growth of leftist ideology, eventually the productive can't support the leeches. At least voluntarily.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By RealFitness86:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
The only counterforce to leftist education is reality itself

many young people believe leftist BS in school, only to be SHOCKED IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE LIES RESULT IN THIER OWN FAILURE
Then what happens?

Growth of government jobs for the incompetent.
Food stamps for the unproductive.
Housing for the stagnant.

Paid for by productive people. Given the expected growth of leftist ideology, eventually the productive can't support the leeches. At least voluntarily.
Leftists would rather die than give up thier narcissistic delusions.

It's about self esteme, they love thier lies the same way you love your family or country.

But... Man needs truth in order to survive
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 11:23:56 AM EST
I've heard a lot of people say that 1984 was written as a warning.


Orwell was a socialist.

1984 is an instruction manual.
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How about a cite for the bolded?
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
How about a cite for the bolded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Leftist to conservative professors: 2005 Klein study numbers on page 7, chart on page 8. They calculate an 8:1 left to right ratio in the humanities and social sciences.

2005 Rothman, Lichter, and Nevitte page 6 breakdown of leftist v right.

Marxists professors: 18% of social sciences professors admit to being Marxist, with another quarter admitting they are radicals and activists: 2007 Gross and Simmons page 40 & 41

IDK where he gets the teacher voting number. Does anyone doubt it?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 12:30:57 PM EST
Teaching this lesson to my world history classes. Tearing down statues does not right wrongs. It simply destroys evidence. In this case, Democratic enslavement of blacks.
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Originally Posted By JohnnyCarcinogen:
I've heard a lot of people say that 1984 was written as a warning.


Orwell was a socialist.

1984 is an instruction manual.
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LOL

give me a break

you are 100% completely wrong

Orwell was a lover of freedom and democracy, his brand of socialism was the soft utopian democratic kind such as they practice in great britain right now.

1984 was a remarkably effective warning against communism and fascism, where the threat of war is used to strip the people of their freedom.

here's a letter he wrote in 1944 to a friend:



I must say I believe, or fear, that taking the world as a whole these things are on the increase. Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and (c) all sorts of petty fuhrers of the type of de Gaulle. All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it. That, so far as I can see, is the direction in which we are actually moving, though, of course, the process is reversible.
As to the comparative immunity of Britain and the USA. Whatever the pacifists etc. may say, we have not gone totalitarian yet and this is a very hopeful symptom. I believe very deeply, as I explained in my book The Lion and the Unicorn, in the English people and in their capacity to centralise their economy without destroying freedom in doing so. But one must remember that Britain and the USA haven’t been really tried, they haven’t known defeat or severe suffering, and there are some bad symptoms to balance the good ones. To begin with there is the general indifference to the decay of democracy. Do you realise, for instance, that no one in England under 26 now has a vote and that so far as one can see the great mass of people of that age don’t give a damn for this? Secondly there is the fact that the intellectuals are more totalitarian in outlook than the common people. On the whole the English intelligentsia have opposed Hitler, but only at the price of accepting Stalin. Most of them are perfectly ready for dictatorial methods, secret police, systematic falsification of history etc. so long as they feel that it is on ‘our’ side. Indeed the statement that we haven’t a Fascist movement in England largely means that the young, at this moment, look for their fuhrer elsewhere. One can’t be sure that that won’t change, nor can one be
sure that the common people won’t think ten years hence as the intellectuals do now. I hope?they won’t, I even trust they won’t, but if so it will be at the cost of a struggle. If one simply proclaims that all is for the best and doesn’t point to the sinister symptoms, one is merely helping to bring totalitarianism nearer.
You also ask, if I think the world tendency is towards Fascism, why do I support the war. It is a choice of evils—I fancy nearly every war is that. I know enough of British imperialism not to like it, but I would support it against Nazism or Japanese imperialism, as the lesser evil. Similarly I would support the USSR against Germany because I think the USSR cannot altogether escape its past and retains enough of the original ideas of the Revolution to make it a more hopeful phenomenon than Nazi Germany. I think, and have thought ever since the war began, in 1936 or thereabouts, that our cause is the better, but we have to keep on making it the better, which involves constant criticism.
Yours sincerely,
Geo. Orwell
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It is a very profound work, I highly recommend people read it, among a few other titles. But, alas, people "don't have time", or think "reading is for faggots". Most people these days get their ideologies from FB memes, and have little interest in the basis for these ideas.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Leftist to conservative professors: 2005 Klein study numbers on page 7, chart on page 8. They calculate an 8:1 left to right ratio in the humanities and social sciences.

2005 Rothman, Lichter, and Nevitte page 6 breakdown of leftist v right.

Marxists professors: 18% of social sciences professors admit to being Marxist, with another quarter admitting they are radicals and activists: 2007 Gross and Simmons page 40 & 41

IDK where he gets the teacher voting number. Does anyone doubt it?
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
How about a cite for the bolded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Leftist to conservative professors: 2005 Klein study numbers on page 7, chart on page 8. They calculate an 8:1 left to right ratio in the humanities and social sciences.

2005 Rothman, Lichter, and Nevitte page 6 breakdown of leftist v right.

Marxists professors: 18% of social sciences professors admit to being Marxist, with another quarter admitting they are radicals and activists: 2007 Gross and Simmons page 40 & 41

IDK where he gets the teacher voting number. Does anyone doubt it?
I didn't ask you about the political views or voting patterns of college professors. I asked you for a cite to backup your statement that 90% of 25 year-old women vote Democrat.
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I didn't ask you about the political views or voting patterns of college professors. I asked you for a cite to backup your statement that 90% of 25 year-old women vote Democrat.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D.

Higher education academia professors control the past and feed it to the 25 year old teachers. They have a liberal to conservative ratio of 5 to 1:

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/160113_LiberalProfessors2_Johnson.png

It is astounding how much freedom the US still has given the ideology infecting its populace.
How about a cite for the bolded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Leftist to conservative professors: 2005 Klein study numbers on page 7, chart on page 8. They calculate an 8:1 left to right ratio in the humanities and social sciences.

2005 Rothman, Lichter, and Nevitte page 6 breakdown of leftist v right.

Marxists professors: 18% of social sciences professors admit to being Marxist, with another quarter admitting they are radicals and activists: 2007 Gross and Simmons page 40 & 41

IDK where he gets the teacher voting number. Does anyone doubt it?
I didn't ask you about the political views or voting patterns of college professors. I asked you for a cite to backup your statement that 90% of 25 year-old women vote Democrat.
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
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I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
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Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
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Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
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GD don't care.
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Never read 1984.  I will do so now.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:52:24 PM EST
Now Testify!
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Originally Posted By DisplacedOkie:
I feel stupid now...I always thought that was just Rage Against The Machine lyrics...
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It was said well before Rage...

Public Enemy used a sample of a person saying the following:

The race that controls the past, controls the living present, and therefore the future"

Contract on the World--Fear of a Black Planet
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Originally Posted By jimhoff:
Never read 1984.  I will do so now.
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Originally Posted By jimhoff:
Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
lol

GD don't care.
Never read 1984.  I will do so now.
Animal Farm is a good read too.  Not as important as 1984 but there is a lot of truth in it.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...


The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
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No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
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Double-Plus Good! Room 101 for You!
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:20:21 PM EST
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They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
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I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:07:18 PM EST
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LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
Or maybe it's meant to be a little more figurative than you're taking it. If 25 was meant in such a literal sense, I would have made sure that was the right number
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:29:52 PM EST
You were listening to Mark Steyn today, weren't you?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:44:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Or maybe it's meant to be a little more figurative than you're taking it. If 25 was meant in such a literal sense, I would have made sure that was the right number
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
Or maybe it's meant to be a little more figurative than you're taking it. If 25 was meant in such a literal sense, I would have made sure that was the right number
LOL. That wasn't any better that the last weasel. Why would you have used 25 to "figuratively" describe a population averaging 42? You patently thought the typical elementary teacher is much younger than they actually are.

Or else you have a case of the ass for twenty-five year-old women. Let's talk about from whence that.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:24:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
LOL. That wasn't any better that the last weasel. Why would you have used 25 to "figuratively" describe a population averaging 42? You patently thought the typical elementary teacher is much younger than they actually are.

Or else you have a case of the ass for twenty-five year-old women. Let's talk about from whence that.
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
Or maybe it's meant to be a little more figurative than you're taking it. If 25 was meant in such a literal sense, I would have made sure that was the right number
LOL. That wasn't any better that the last weasel. Why would you have used 25 to "figuratively" describe a population averaging 42? You patently thought the typical elementary teacher is much younger than they actually are.

Or else you have a case of the ass for twenty-five year-old women. Let's talk about from whence that.
Or I suck at illustrating a point

I'm trying to show that the people who taught little minds today come straight from leftist indoctrination camps at the liberal arts colleges they attended. Adding years doesn't change that. Nor does it change their ideology for the better.

They never get a chance to join the rest of us in the real, competitive, non-government funded world.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:59:35 PM EST
Well, I teach little minds every day and I am damn far from liberal. In fact, Reagan was too liberal for me.

I preach against socialism/nazism, communism, statism, entitlement, etc every chance I get.

I was essentially kicked out of public education because I could not tolerate the permissibility, the politics, and the utter bullshit.

I teach at a private school, too.

Not all teachers are leftists.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:18:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:


Or I suck at illustrating a point

I'm trying to show that the people who taught little minds today come straight from leftist indoctrination camps at the liberal arts colleges they attended. Adding years doesn't change that. Nor does it change their ideology for the better.

They never get a chance to join the rest of us in the real, competitive, non-government funded world.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By RINO_Hunter:
I hadn't noticed you bolded more than I had.

Teachers. Not all women.

Ask Stefan.
Exactly. He said "the teachers of our children" - presumably meaning elementary school teachers - vote ninety percent Democrat. If I had a question about that, I would ask him.

You explictly said "twenty-five year old women". Not at all the same thing as "the teachers of our children". Your statistic, so I'm asking you: do you have a cite to back that up?
"25 year old women control the present. They are the ones teaching children. They vote 90% D." <---- Taking about teachers. I could have worded it more clearly. I apologize.
No problem. Many's the time I've been pounced on, and rightly, here for the same lack of specificity. Moving on ...

The argument that the "present is controlled" by a subset of twenty-five year-old women, i.e. elementary school teachers, pretty much refuted by the fact that the average age of elementary school teachers is 42 and 16% are men. Link
They don't age one day after entering the public school system as a teacher infected by leftist ideology from college.

Chronologically, perhaps, but that's irrelevant. They don't transfer age, they transfer wisdom (or lackthereof) and ideology.
LOL. Not even a good weasel. Look guy, it was a stupid thing to say; just admit it and move on.

The fact is, the public school system in America is fucked, root and branch. Attributing that to solely to twenty-five year old women is ludicrous.
Or maybe it's meant to be a little more figurative than you're taking it. If 25 was meant in such a literal sense, I would have made sure that was the right number
LOL. That wasn't any better that the last weasel. Why would you have used 25 to "figuratively" describe a population averaging 42? You patently thought the typical elementary teacher is much younger than they actually are.

Or else you have a case of the ass for twenty-five year-old women. Let's talk about from whence that.


Or I suck at illustrating a point

I'm trying to show that the people who taught little minds today come straight from leftist indoctrination camps at the liberal arts colleges they attended. Adding years doesn't change that. Nor does it change their ideology for the better.

They never get a chance to join the rest of us in the real, competitive, non-government funded world.
Come on, guy. You're just making up this stuff on the fly. Seriously, why are twenty-five year-old women your bête noire when the average elementary school teacher is 42 years old and received their leftist indoctrination from the mostly male faculty in their baccalaureate program?

Look, it isn't so much that you suck at illustrating a point. It's that you want to change the point midway through the illustration. You're doing one heck of a Bojangles routine, though. I'll definitely give you that.
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