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8/14/2007 3:48:04 PM EDT
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8/14/2007 3:49:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Damn I did not know that weapon used a clip. Can you show me one
8/14/2007 3:50:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Nice!

I had one a few years ago, worked great.

Get the $2 mags a lot of websites sell, and enjoy.
8/14/2007 3:50:40 PM EDT
[#3]

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Damn I did not know that weapon used a clip. Can you show me one


That's what his problem is, trying to use clips.
8/14/2007 3:50:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.
8/14/2007 3:52:30 PM EDT
[#5]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.
We see it as sport. Similar to dupe and spelling nazis.

The sports of Arfcom will see the superstars on this one.
8/14/2007 3:52:44 PM EDT
[#6]
this post has a nice rifle in it

it also illustrates the interchangable use of "mag" and "clip"

heads will explode over that short paragraph  
8/14/2007 3:53:14 PM EDT
[#7]

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Damn I did not know that weapon used a clip. Can you show me one


That's what his problem is, trying to use clips.


I'd sure like to see a photo of how he managed to even get a "clip" into that?  


8/14/2007 3:53:42 PM EDT
[#8]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.



No kidding.
I mean does anyone really give a shit?
8/14/2007 3:54:59 PM EDT
[#9]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.



No kidding.
I mean does anyone really give a shit?


Bored college kids waiting for classes to begin again seem to
8/14/2007 3:55:13 PM EDT
[#10]
tag for the clip != mag hilarity
8/14/2007 3:55:31 PM EDT
[#11]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.



No kidding.
I mean does anyone really give a shit?


No, but since when has that stopped anyone from handing out a ration of shit over it?
8/14/2007 3:56:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Now, back on track after the hijacking..

I had one, a Stamped receiver. Looks like yours is a stamped one too.

Mine had that big'ol honk'n metal mag too, and it had FTFs.

Get some of the surplus HK G3 alloy mags. You can find them for like $20 for 10.

It will cure that.
8/14/2007 3:57:12 PM EDT
[#13]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.



No kidding.
I mean does anyone really give a shit?


No, but since when has that stopped anyone from handing out a ration of shit over it?
clip for the M1, clip for the 98k, clip for a SMLE,

A magazine is not a clip.
8/14/2007 3:58:16 PM EDT
[#14]
the problem is not the magazine it's the reciever. the century builds are made to use g3 mags not cetme mags. my rifle will use both but cetme mags are VERY tight and hard to seat properly. the alluminum g3 mags work just fine.

mike
8/14/2007 3:58:32 PM EDT
[#15]

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Now, back on track after the hijacking..

I had one, a Stamped receiver. Looks like yours is a stamped one too.

Mine had that big'ol honk'n metal mag too, and it had FTFs.

Get some of the surplus HK G3 alloy mags. You can find them for like $20 for 10.

It will cure that.


Yep, mine did not like the mags that Century shipped, bought a boatload of the G3 mags from CTD and it was a blast to shoot, to bad the prices of .308 surplus are what they are now.
8/14/2007 4:00:14 PM EDT
[#16]

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Wow the "clip" nazis are going to have field day with this one.


Yup
8/14/2007 4:01:55 PM EDT
[#17]
If you cut your hair you'll no longer need to use clips, therefore no more problems.
8/14/2007 4:03:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Same as above, try out different mags before you go modifying anything.

If it sits any higher, the tension on the mag catch will cause magazine extraction to be as painful as listening to Ron Paul fans defend him.

Grab some aluminum mags for $2-3 and, if you are going to modify anything, try opening up the feed lips to get the rounds a few thousands of an inch higher.

Don't let that bolt scalp the feed lips.  Just give the little rounds a little help in getting grabbed.


I highly suggest ONLY trying to modify aluminum mags for sanity and price reasons.  If you have some dummy .308 rounds, try using those to test.

I sold my CETME years ago.  It just didn't tickle my pickle.  I did, however, have the same problem you did (my fault to begin with... ground down the mag catch to get mag changes smoother).


- BG
8/14/2007 4:24:24 PM EDT
[#19]

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This is my first one of these type of rifles. I just got it monday night and shot 2 mags through it today. Other than the mags not functioning properly it shot great. No FTE at all. It even grouped good. Better than I would have figured it would have. I would estimate the groups to be within 3" at 100yds and that was with me not being used to the rifle. The mags however, the steel ones, are little to be desired. I will have to modify them so that the rear of the clip will lock in higher because I have to pull on the clip towards me so it will feed right. Otherwise it will skip the shell or jam a shell. But when it functioned, it was really nice. Recoil wasnt bad either. I just wished I had an original collapsable stock. I saw those ar style but dont like those. If I keep it I will re-do the wood. I aint sure of which scheme but I do like it. If I can get mags that let it work 100% I will like it just as much as an ak.

i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa146/crashland73/08130028.jpg


Have you tried a few steel HK 91 mags?

Another idea would be to purchase another mag release kit and modify it to fit your magazines,most likely the receiver is slightly off. I would think its best to have the rifle work with any Cetme mag you find,rather than file some iron off a few mags and limit yourself to just those few.

It would be a good idea to check the CETME section over at Gunboards,those guys know quite a bit.

By the way a clip is something used to fill a magazine, some are integral to the weapon,most are detachable box mags like yours. The best example of a clip would be stripper clips for an SKS and an en block clip for a Garand. Be careful how you use the word clip especialy at Arfcom. Seems to upset some people,I don't blame em.
Often the word clip is missused by media folk, movie stars, and certain piss ant cops that hate the Second Amendment to demonize how many rounds a weapon was made to hold. Just a heads up.

Good luck with your rifle.


8/14/2007 4:38:09 PM EDT
[#20]
that must be it. these are really hard to put in. i will look into that.
8/14/2007 4:39:24 PM EDT
[#21]
+1 for getting new mag's, also check out the mag catch. The Cetme(century) my dad picked up years ago had a bunch of crud under the mag catch preventing the mags from fully locking into place but not enough to make them fall out during firing... he had LOT's of failure's to feed due to the mag catch not holding the mags in correctly.

John
8/14/2007 4:46:35 PM EDT
[#22]
I love my CETME (go figure) and the only problem I have with mags is finding new
ones that are worth a crap. They apparently don't make them any more and some
places will sell you a steel HK mag under the guise that it will work just like the original.
That is a huge lie. They will fire but they will more likely jam in the well or double, even
triple, feed. Make sure your mags are not HK and get rid of the wood hardware.
8/14/2007 4:48:32 PM EDT
[#23]
After I got mine working the extractor broke,but I have an extra part and a back up HK91.
8/14/2007 4:48:52 PM EDT
[#24]

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I love my CETME (go figure) and the only problem I have with mags is finding new
ones that are worth a crap. They apparently don't make them any more and some
places will sell you an HK mag under the guise that it will work just like the original.
That is a huge lie. They will fire but they will more likely jam in the well or double, even
triple, feed. Make sure your mags are not HK and get rid of the wood hardware.


My CETME would not feed a round out of the original mags.

The only ones that worked in it was the HK alloy mags.
8/14/2007 4:50:11 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I love my CETME (go figure) and the only problem I have with mags is finding new
ones that are worth a crap. They apparently don't make them any more and some
places will sell you an HK mag under the guise that it will work just like the original.
That is a huge lie. They will fire but they will more likely jam in the well or double, even
triple, feed. Make sure your mags are not HK and get rid of the wood hardware.


My CETME would not feed a round out of the original mags.

The only ones that worked in it was the HK alloy mags.


I noticed that I fucked that up, the HK steel mags suck not the alloy.
8/14/2007 4:59:00 PM EDT
[#26]

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Damn I did not know that weapon used a clip. Can you show me one


That's what his problem is, trying to use clips.


I'd sure like to see a photo of how he managed to even get a "clip" into that?  









8/14/2007 5:07:40 PM EDT
[#27]
guys,

knock off the grammer lesson.
8/14/2007 5:35:31 PM EDT
[#28]
+ 1000




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guys,

knock off the grammer lesson.
8/14/2007 6:28:52 PM EDT
[#29]
This kid doesn't sound like the usual asshole spouting clip this and clip that. I think he just didn't know any better, and I made an effort to correct him politely. I think he will figure it out. He sure as hell ain't gonna learn by being insulted.

Those of you with CETME problems realy need to check out the CETME section over at Gunboards. They can help you out.
8/14/2007 6:35:36 PM EDT
[#30]
I had a Century FAL(L1A1) I believe. It had MAGAZINE problems too. I sold it shortly after.
8/15/2007 8:25:46 AM EDT
[#31]
well a friend of mine has an original g3 and he loaned me a mag (dated 3/66) and it functioned flawless until the last round which the bolt skipped over. Other than that it fitted right and I believe that was it. If I dont sell it I will most likely get some mags and more ammo.
8/15/2007 8:41:15 AM EDT
[#32]

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the problem is not the magazine it's the reciever. the century builds are made to use g3 mags not cetme mags. my rifle will use both but cetme mags are VERY tight and hard to seat properly. the alluminum g3 mags work just fine.

mike


You may need to take a file to the mags to get them to fit.  Even if the mag locks in the magwell, it may be too low to feed properly.  Try taking a file to the little tabs that stop the mag from going in further so that the mag can insert farther into the magwell.

I had a CETME from Centery.  It shot surprisingly well but I didn't like how the fluted chamber and extremly strong ejection ruined brass, and the ergos are wierd, so I traded up for a FAL
8/15/2007 12:46:55 PM EDT
[#33]

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the problem is not the magazine it's the reciever. the century builds are made to use g3 mags not cetme mags. my rifle will use both but cetme mags are VERY tight and hard to seat properly. the alluminum g3 mags work just fine.

mike


You may need to take a file to the mags to get them to fit.  Even if the mag locks in the magwell, it may be too low to feed properly.  Try taking a file to the little tabs that stop the mag from going in further so that the mag can insert farther into the magwell.

I had a CETME from Centery.  It shot surprisingly well but I didn't like how the fluted chamber and extremly strong ejection ruined brass, and the ergos are wierd, so I traded up for a FAL


why bother with that when the correct g3 mags are under 2.00 a piece? century used a g3 format reciever and generally true cetme mags have issues.

cetme mags... 10.00+
g3 mags..... under 2-3.00

it's not worth the hastle.
8/15/2007 1:12:47 PM EDT
[#34]
if i keep it, i will definatly get the g3 mags. i know they work in it. i can sell the cetme mags to someone with an original cetme.
8/15/2007 1:21:51 PM EDT
[#35]
I tried to fit a clip in mine and you're right it doesn't work right.

Tried a magazine and it works great.

Damn that Century making these incompatible with my clips.  
8/15/2007 1:38:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Yeah, I had some problems with the steel CETME "magazines" that I got with both of my rifles...

I had to touch up the back notch on them with a dremel to make them lock up higher so that they would feed better.

I was able to pick up a bunch of the aluminum G3 "magazines" and they worked flawlessly... I got mine for 3 bucks each, you should still be able to find them between 3 and 5 bucks each.  

Try them...they work great...
8/15/2007 1:42:27 PM EDT
[#37]
your a soup nazi lol!! (seinfeld)



Quoted:
I tried to fit a clip in mine and you're right it doesn't work right.

Tried a magazine and it works great.

Damn that Century making these incompatible with my clips.  
8/15/2007 1:44:00 PM EDT
[#38]
i call them both, just used to it. just like some people call engines, motors and some call motors, engines. but some need asurance, i dont.
8/15/2007 1:50:26 PM EDT
[#39]
[sadface]STUPID PHOTOBUCKET!!!11!!eleven

I had a clip vs. mag pic all loaded up and ready to rock it's happy way into this thread, but photobucket is down 'cause of "maintainance."

[/sadface]
8/15/2007 1:50:49 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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the problem is not the magazine it's the reciever. the century builds are made to use g3 mags not cetme mags. my rifle will use both but cetme mags are VERY tight and hard to seat properly. the alluminum g3 mags work just fine.

mike


You may need to take a file to the mags to get them to fit.  Even if the mag locks in the magwell, it may be too low to feed properly.  Try taking a file to the little tabs that stop the mag from going in further so that the mag can insert farther into the magwell.

I had a CETME from Centery.  It shot surprisingly well but I didn't like how the fluted chamber and extremly strong ejection ruined brass, and the ergos are wierd, so I traded up for a FAL


why bother with that when the correct g3 mags are under 2.00 a piece? century used a g3 format reciever and generally true cetme mags have issues.

cetme mags... 10.00+
g3 mags..... under 2-3.00

it's not worth the hastle.


TBS is right..if you are having mag problems and the receiver is stamped, get the G3 Alloy mags.

If you have a cast CETME receiver, try the original steel CETME mags. They work better in the cast receivers.
8/15/2007 2:28:55 PM EDT
[#41]
this weekend i am going to a gunshow so Lord willin I will find some. It is a stamped receiver. I like it, if I can get ahold of some decent ammo and mags/clips I will most likely keep it.




On a side note about mags vs clips. guys, lets grow up. If all the time you have is to prove yourself right or someone else wrong, then you need another job or even one job. The correct term might be mag, thats all well. But if my english teacher came up to me this day and corrected my gramar, I would probably laugh in her face.  I mean really, what is the big deal? I could go in other parts of life and people call things different. I pronounce windows, winders pronouncing wind the same but saying ers instead of ows. Other stuff the same way.
8/15/2007 2:41:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Thank GOD he didn't say it had a Flash Hider!
8/15/2007 6:11:33 PM EDT
[#43]
he he, or a conspicuously protruding grip hanging down?
8/15/2007 6:51:48 PM EDT
[#44]

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guys,

knock off the grammer lesson.


It's spelled grammar, right

But seriously, both of my Century CETMEs worked great with CETME mags and most G3 mags wouldn't even lock.  Both of them required some careful filing on the receivers to make things right.  The CETME mags have a subtle curve that let them lock higher in the mag well than straight G3 magazines.  Search around on the HK/CETME boards and you'll find a lot of info.  If the mag is sitting to low, you will get bolt over FTFs.  The area I had to relieve was at the rear of the mag well.

Even now, there are some G3 mags that just don't work.  Most of the alloy ones work, but several steel ones don't.  I save all the "bad" mags for the HK91!  If you don't have a HK91 you could always buy 50 mags ($100), find the ones that work good, and sell the rest.

Normally, the Wiley Coyote school of gunsmithing recommends filing on the cheapest part, but in this case it's probably the receiver that is the culprit and should be modified to get it closer to spec.

While you're looking for info on CETMEs be sure to check your bolt gap to make sure things are safe.

The collapsible stocks are not impressive, I would stick with the wood and enjoy the rifle for what it is: a masterpiece of 50's engineering, made when rifles still had a little wood on them.