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12/7/2006 11:33:50 AM EDT
Does anyone know the minimum recommended mechanical advantge is for a hand tool such as a pair of pliers?  Any documentation would help also.

I've been trying to search ergonimic stuff on OSHAs website but can't find anything.
12/7/2006 11:38:58 AM EDT
[#1]
Are you looking for an equation?

Such as:
(effort force) / (resistance force) = advantage
12/7/2006 11:41:37 AM EDT
[#2]
No, I'm looking for a number like 5 to 1, 7 to 1, 10 to 1, etc.
12/7/2006 11:42:37 AM EDT
[#3]
87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.
12/7/2006 11:43:50 AM EDT
[#4]
I realize that.
12/7/2006 11:44:45 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.


+87.


A 24" wrench gives you a hell of a lot bigger mechanical advantage than a 6" one. There are no standards on such things.
12/7/2006 11:45:01 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.


Fool.  Everyone knows the answer is always and forever.... 42.

I agree with your response after that nonsensical number however.  Takes more force to grab a screw you dropped than to tear a screwhead off for example.
12/7/2006 11:46:40 AM EDT
[#7]
I doubt there is a min/max recommened MA for hand tools cause if the MA is to much or too little then the tool is useless.  Every requirement is more than likely different depending on the job.  I just measured a pair of CeeTee's and they are about 4:1 roughly.
12/7/2006 11:47:27 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.


+87.


A 24" wrench gives you a hell of a lot bigger mechanical advantage than a 6" one. There are no standards on such things.


I realize this, but a 24" wrench is usually used on a larger bolt/nut that is tighter so the overall ratio is the same.
12/7/2006 11:51:31 AM EDT
[#9]
Negative.


It appears that what you are looking for is the maximum FORCE that a human has to use to operate the tool.  That probably does have guidelines, say for exmple, a human should have to exert no more than 20lbf using such and such a movement of his arm.  Using that number you could calculate the required mechanical advantage of a tool for its intended application.

Force applied by user multiplied by mechanical advantage of tool equals force exerted on workpiece.




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Quoted:

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87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.


+87.


A 24" wrench gives you a hell of a lot bigger mechanical advantage than a 6" one. There are no standards on such things.


I realize this, but a 24" wrench is usually used on a larger bolt/nut that is tighter so the overall ratio is the same.
12/7/2006 11:51:35 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Does anyone know the minimum recommended mechanical advantge is for a hand tool such as a pair of pliers?  Any documentation would help also.

I've been trying to search ergonimic stuff on OSHAs website but can't find anything.



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No, I'm looking for a number like 5 to 1, 7 to 1, 10 to 1, etc.

Wouldn't the "minimum number" depend on what the tool is?

Or are you suggesting OSHA actually has a minimum number and you are trying to comply with it?

I guess I don't quite get what you are asking... rephrase your question.
12/7/2006 11:53:58 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Does anyone know the minimum recommended mechanical advantge is for a hand tool such as a pair of pliers?  Any documentation would help also.

I've been trying to search ergonimic stuff on OSHAs website but can't find anything.



Quoted:
No, I'm looking for a number like 5 to 1, 7 to 1, 10 to 1, etc.

Wouldn't the "minimum number" depend on what the tool is?

Or are you suggesting OSHA actually has a minimum number and you are trying to comply with it?

I guess I don't quite get what you are asking... rephrase your question.


It would depend on the invidvidual design of each individual tool,  yes.
12/7/2006 11:54:35 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Negative.


It appears that what you are looking for is the maximum FORCE that a human has to use to operate the tool.  That probably does have guidelines, say for exmple, a human should have to exert no more than 20lbf using such and such a movement of his arm.  Using that number you could calculate the required mechanical advantage of a tool for its intended application.

Force applied by user multiplied by mechanical advantage of tool equals force exerted on workpiece.




Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
87



your question is ambiguous and meritless.  the amount of mechanical advantage a tool needs depends on its application.


+87.


A 24" wrench gives you a hell of a lot bigger mechanical advantage than a 6" one. There are no standards on such things.


I realize this, but a 24" wrench is usually used on a larger bolt/nut that is tighter so the overall ratio is the same.





I know how to calculate the numbers.

I know how much force can be applied by the human hand.  It is 100 pounds for a man.
12/7/2006 11:55:27 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Wouldn't the "minimum number" depend on what the tool is?


Yes if the tool already exsists




Or are you suggesting OSHA actually has a minimum number and you are trying to comply with it?



Yes
12/7/2006 12:05:23 PM EDT
[#14]
If there wasn't a mechanical advantage, then there wouldn't be hand tools.

You could do everthing with your hands.

A tool with a 1.25:1 mechancial advantage probably wouldn't be very popular.
12/7/2006 12:07:15 PM EDT
[#15]
I found what I'm looking for.


www.freepatentsonline.com/6012363.html
12/7/2006 12:09:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Some one got hungry and ate your thread title!
12/7/2006 12:09:30 PM EDT
[#17]
most descriptive thread title EVER!
12/7/2006 12:11:52 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Some one got hungry and ate your thread title!


Don't you just hate it when that happens.

Elvis