Posted: 6/4/2005 8:27:37 PM EDT
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That sucks, when I order something online from cabelas, I don't pay sales tax. Because it's not comming from thier wisconsin store. At elast I didn't see anything that said I paid sales tax on the order, hard copy or email copy. Of course wisconsin asks on it's tax forms if you bought stuff on the internet so they can tax you for it, but they really can't do that. |
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Actually they can, in NY at least it's a "use" tax and technically it applies to all property brought into the state. It's only because of the internet that they have started enforcing it. The fill-in space on the tax form is easy, you can just pick a standard amount based on your income if you don't want to add up all your purchases. I'm lucky because my "standard" amount is like $30, but if I added everything up it could be in the thousands (!). Mark my words, it won't be long before a bunch of states get together and conspire to collect sales taxes on ALL internet purchases, no matter where you are. There's already a consortium working on this. Dell and Apple already charge me sales tax on all the stuff I buy from them. That's over $1k in sales tax the last year or so... :( |
Our "beloved" governor has already started going after the people who order out of state cigs. I'm sure sales tax won't be far behind. |
Good luck, the Supreme Court will rule it unconstitutional, they already stated that you can't tax out of state purchases if they don't have a presence in your state. I go out of my way to buy out of state so I don't subsidize this corrupt state (IL) with tax money. |
+1. I have gone round and round with Dell Computers about this. It got to the point that I argued with a sales manager and cancelled my order. I told them I would buy an Apple instead. They claim they have a presence in FL and that made it OK. I told him to produce the tax law and the address of the distribution center and I would gladly pay the tax. He couldn't do either but offered to give an additional rebate to cover the taxes. I told him to pound sand. Dell is knowingly ripping off it's customers and they cough up $$ only when caught. |
It is already in progress. Texas and California (odd pair, there) are the only two states holding us back from nationwide point-of-purchase sales tax at this time. A few years ago, there was a big push by the Northeastern states to get a "uniform" sales tax collection system in place. If all of the states could agree on sales tax collections (rates would still be left to indiviual localities), then the controlling legislation at the federal level would allow states to start collecting sales taxes on ALL sales, including internet and mail-order purchases. The Northesatern states were pushing "point of purchase" sales, where your local (or state) government would collect the sales taxes on anything you bought. This would increase the revenues of local and state governments by several percent, particularly in the Northeast where wages and cost of living are higher, but much of the local economy has transitioned to service industry type jobs of one stripe or another, and the manufacturing is happening in other places. Texas started the resistance movement, during the last legislative session. One city (where Dell is headquartered) gets most of its tax revenues from sales taxes on Dell products sold, and thus has VERY low property taxes. They sucessfully argued that Texas's current point-of-sale tax collection rewarded communities for building infrastructure and luring business to set up manufacturing and sales facilities, and that taking the income away would often leave communities unable to support the infrastructure of large manufacturing concerns. The Interstate compact on sales tax collection stalled at that time, though there are still serious and bitter attempts at resurrecting it. The big losers on this deal would be states like Texas and California that actually MAKE things (as opposed to selling insurance or managing stocks and banks), and they would lose a fair amount of sales tax income, while the Northeastern states would gain about the same amount of local revenue a year. Texas and California are still fighting this, because point of sale collections benefit their states greatly, but the fight isn't over. Attempts to get point-of-purchase tax provisions added to Texas again never made it past committee this legislative session in Texas, but they are still out there. To us who stand to gain from the status quo, it looks like a bunch of liberals out East wanting to profit from our investment in our infrastructure and encourgaement of local businesses. It may look different to folks out East. |
You need to check with the State of Florida. They are requiring Dell to collect sales tax on Internet purchases that are shipped to FL. "While the company collects and remits taxes on transactions from all its corporate customers, it does so on online sales from consumers in only seven states: Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada and Oregon, where it has major operations." |
It doesn't matter if it's not coming from their wisconsin store. It should still be taxed because of physical operations in the state. The only way they can get around that is to have cabela's internet operation be a separate business entity from the stores. |
Not a small crimp. It will likely put many small mom & pop internet businesses under. Complying with 50 different state taxes, endless county and local taxes would be more than most small businesses can deal with efficiently. And every time one of the thousands of municipalities in thecountry decide to raise taxes, the businesses somehow have to know about it and adjust their web site programming for the new taxes. It's bullshit because a business in texas would be forced to comply with the laws of new york even though they had no physical presence and thus no representation there. And remember the chant hundreds of years ago? "No taxation without representation!" Same damn thing, except this time the 'brits' are in our own country trying to rule another state. Which is one thing the constitution was set up to prevent. |