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Posted: 12/15/2005 9:38:16 PM EDT

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:41:01 PM EDT
No.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:41:08 PM EDT
Fuck no
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:41:55 PM EDT

No


Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:42:03 PM EDT
I'd vote for him over Hillary in any election. I'd prefer Newt Gingrich if I had my way.
-Jason M
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:42:32 PM EDT
Fuck no + 1!


would be no different than voting for Hillary (as far as gun rights are concerned).
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:45:01 PM EDT
I just wouldn't vote that year.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:47:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
Fuck no



+1


After I voted for Bush in 2004 I refused to give a vote for pragmatism's sake alone ever again. Hell, I can't even see the pragmatism arguement with him.


A libertarian-minded candidate or None of the Above. Plain and simple.

All this stuff makes me want to start a thread: Boxer or Feinstein?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:47:06 PM EDT
No.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:47:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hughjafj:
I just wouldn't vote that year.



Honestly, if Hillary, Guiliani, and McCain are the only people who are going for the job as president, I'm movin' to Canada :).
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:50:06 PM EDT
If Giuliani is the answer, it must be a really shitty question.

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:53:35 PM EDT
What choice would we have if Hitlery runs?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:53:51 PM EDT
no
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:54:42 PM EDT
No.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:55:11 PM EDT
No way in hell. If he's on, my vote goes Libertarian.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:55:22 PM EDT
Yes
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:57:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GreyGhost:
What choice would we have if Hitlery runs?



Me?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:57:52 PM EDT
Cheney and Rice... my dream ticket!
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 1:36:39 AM EDT
NO!
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 2:01:23 AM EDT
If it comes down to Hillary and a RINO, then we unite conservatives and libertarians and throw all our support to a 3rd party candidate. Afterall, there's no reason at all to be forced to try to choose the lesser of two evils among two parties. This is America afterall. If we don't like the dem or repub nominees, then we find someone else we do like. A 3rd party candidate can win. All they need is the necessary support. If you have a liberal and RINO going head to head, that leaves a lot of people without a voice. In such a case, rallying around a better 3rd party candidate is the best option. Even if you don't win, you at least send a message and vote based on your beliefs, which is what we should always do anyway.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 2:09:20 AM EDT
No, don't think he'd win the primaries anyways, I think the conservatism movement is quite strong now (look how Meirs got shot down) and a RINO will have a tough time making it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 2:13:16 AM EDT
Yes, assuming Newt Gingrich or Fred Thompson didn't run.

Blake
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 2:15:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2005 2:17:43 AM EDT by Mauser101]
No. I refuse to vote for a RINO be he Guiliani, McCain or any other. I will vote third party with a good conscience.

I doubtGuiliani would make it through the primaries. I think McCain would nosedive straight away with New Hampshire (are they still the first?).
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:12:23 AM EDT
I'd rather clean every toilet in Grand Central Station with my tongue than vote Rudolf Gulianni into the oval office.

Dave
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:17:04 AM EDT
Of course I would vote for him.

Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting, and not voting would just help the Democrat. Unless you have a particular desire to see a Democrat in office, you really should vote for the Republican. Do it because you feel they are the better candidate, or do it to put the lesser of two evils in office. But if you don't do it, we get to kick you in the nuts if HRC gets elected.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:20:24 AM EDT
no
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:21:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:21:50 AM EDT
Yes.

Tomislav is right.

Besides, I know Giuliani, and aside from one glaring error (which he recognizes), he's an honorable man.

Do I agree with him on everything? Nope, but I sure as hell trust him more than any dem you can mention.

Not an ideal candidate, and I would NOT vote for him in the primaries, but far better than the alternatives.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:22:06 AM EDT
No. If conservatives voted for him because they had no choice, the next repub. candidate would be someone just like him. Thats personally not what I want to see happening. I would vote a 3rd party candidate, then work to hold the house and senate. Without those, Hitlery would be hamstrung in a lot of ways.
I hope the repub party pulls their collective heads out of their asses and quits trying to be lib. lite. Conservatives hate it and the libs will hate them anyway. Losing plan any way you look at it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:23:47 AM EDT
[No. If conservatives voted for him because they had no choice, the next repub. candidate would be someone just like him. Thats personally not what I want to see happening. I would vote a 3rd party candidate, then work to hold the house and senate. Without those, Hitlery would be hamstrung in a lot of ways.
I hope the repub party pulls their collective heads out of their asses and quits trying to be lib. lite. Conservatives hate it and the libs will hate them anyway. Losing plan any way you look at it.
/quote]

Exactly what fxntime said. All you'd accomplish is to give the appeasers in the GOP validity.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:25:46 AM EDT
No.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:26:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By giacutter:
If Giuliani is the answer, it must be a really shitty question.




The motto of the 2008 presidential campaign.......
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:27:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gigmike:

Exactly what fxntime said. All you'd accomplish is to give the appeasers in the GOP validity.




Yeah, and giving the election to the libs would sure teach them a lesson or two!
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:28:06 AM EDT
Yes.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:32:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Of course I would vote for him.

Voting 3rd party is the same as not voting, and not voting would just help the Democrat. Unless you have a particular desire to see a Democrat in office, you really should vote for the Republican. Do it because you feel they are the better candidate, or do it to put the lesser of two evils in office. But if you don't do it, we get to kick you in the nuts if HRC gets elected.



+1
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:38:49 AM EDT
No,just because he has a different letter after his name than Hitlery wouldnt make me vote for him.I guess I dont get the whole "as long as the libs arent in the whitehouse" argument when he is just as liberal.I will however vote for conservatives for both the house and senate,but would either write in Dolimite or Swingset for POTUS and the other for VPOTUS.I could MAYBE hold my nose and vote McCain,allthough I think I would have to get really drunk before going to vote though.And just think of the many showers it would take to ever feel clean again
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:42:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By colklink:
I dont get the whole "as long as the libs arent in the whitehouse" argument when he is just as liberal.



Oh, PLEASE!

Look, I'll agree that his stance on gun control sucks, but there is a LOT more to it than just that.

You want Hillary (who can't make a speach without first figuring out what the audience wants to hear, rather than growing some balls and just telling us what she thinks) running the war?

I will say this, though: If he is the only guy we can put up, it's a sad reflection on US.

I'd still prefer him to Hillary or sKerry.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:43:54 AM EDT
No, Guiliani was a nothing Mayor in NYC. He did give great support during the events of Sept. 11 but thats it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:44:13 AM EDT
HELL NO - Rino in every sense of the word!
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:48:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JUSTINHIP:
No, Guiliani was a nothing Mayor in NYC.



Uhm, he did quite a job cleaning up NYC. I know, Time Square will never be the same, but give the man his due.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:52:20 AM EDT
It doesn't matter what party, if the are liberal or conservative, I will never vote for someone who openly supports restricting my firearm rights. If the Republican's can't find a candidate who supports firearm owners then they will not get my vote. The choice is up to them.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 3:54:08 AM EDT
Maybe if he shows the same respect for firearms that previous candidates have...



Link Posted: 12/16/2005 4:05:20 AM EDT
After holding my nose and voting the lesser of two evils, I have vowed to never again to that.

This country needs a major overhaul. Simply by voting the less of two evils, we are only delaying the downward slide.

From here on, I will vote my consience.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 4:10:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 80FL:
After holding my nose and voting the lesser of two evils, I have vowed to never again to that.

This country needs a major overhaul. Simply by voting the less of two evils, we are only delaying the downward slide.

From here on, I will vote my consience.



Huge +1
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 4:32:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By gigmike:

Exactly what fxntime said. All you'd accomplish is to give the appeasers in the GOP validity.




Yeah, and giving the election to the libs would sure teach them a lesson or two!



Actually, it DOES teach a lesson to the repub party. It shows them that if they put up liberal RINOs, we are not going to vote for them because they have a elephant and an R in front of them. The best thing that happened to the firearms industry and related gun culture and to the conservative movement in general was B Klinton. Because of his actions, it strengthened the conservatives in this Country, lost the libs the house and senate and changed the entire political landscape.

Why do people forget that before 94" the libs/dems ran the house and senate for 50 years? 94" was a huge watershed moment and one that should not be forgotten. Unfortunately, the repubs seem to have done a fine job of collective assheading trying to forget. I won't support people like McCain [I personally think he has some mental problems from Nam and imprisonment]who I see no reason to trust on anything, or Guliani who is a HUGE liberal save for fiscal management. Law and order at the expense of my constitutional rights is not the way to go.

The repub party is finally finding a bit of backbone but it has a long way to go before it finds it's balls. There are way to many liberals that have found a home there, and way to many people who stupidly vote for them simply based on the R. Thanks to all the Rs who are conservative and have the courage to abide by the Constitution, and raspberries to all the asswipes like my POS liberal R. Rep [Schwartz] who should have never made it past the primaries. That was thanks to all the LIB democrats who chose to vote in the R primaries to screw us on our choices. That is FACT, as the union even sent out a letter urging members to vote for him.

Link Posted: 12/16/2005 4:50:19 AM EDT
NO way.


He's pure RINO.

CMOS
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 4:54:54 AM EDT
no fucking way.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 5:00:47 AM EDT
In the Primary? No.

In the General Election? Probably.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 5:07:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 5:09:21 AM EDT
No
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 5:10:40 AM EDT
Depends on which Democrat was on the ticket.
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