My mother sent me the Guardian article. Here's what I sent her back:
The guy was a jackass, that's not the gun's fault.
> Larry Mugrage, a popular hard-working and clever schoolboy, added his name to
> a high and persistent death toll. A child is killed by a gun every three hours
> in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19
> are shot dead every year. Another 800 use guns to commit suicide, and more
> than 160 die in firearm accidents.
There are 8 3-hour periods in a day, and 365 days in a year. That would mean that 2,920 are killed, not 1000. So, which is it? At least one figure is a blatant lie, and probably both. Or is "shot dead" including murder AND suicide? That would still be only 1,800. I also find it fascinating that the suicide total is so close to the murder total. I am also curious to see what their stats for other techniques of murder and suicide are.
Also... "children under 19"...? What the hell? They are including 18 year olds in the child stats? Last I checked, at 18 you can drive a car, vote, and join the Army.
While looking for CDC death stats, I found this, from "ifeminists"
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/ifeminists/2004/0303.html
Ha! On her page, I also found the CDC death calculator that I was looking for, and looked up drowning deaths. "Children" are as likely to drown as be shot. Her point about the suicide rate is important too. Japan has very strict gun laws and their suicide rate is through the roof.
> Forty per cent of American households own guns, but those guns are 22 times
> more likely to be involved in an accidental shooting, or 11 times more likely
> to be used in a suicide, than in self-defence. On average, more than 80
> Americans are killed by gunfire every day.
This statistic is bogus, because it only counts self-defense instances where the gun was fired and someone was injured badly enough to warrant a police report. Also, 80 a day comes out to 29,200, while the CDC says for 2003 (the only year I found easily) the total, including NON-gun homicides was 17,638 (11,829 was the gun total)
I also break from the norm on this, but if someone wants to kill themselves, it's not my problem or anyone else's. That's a private matter to be settled between them and their god.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
> But the US gun control debate has faded from the political scene. The
> Democrats, desperate to win support in conservative states where gun ownership
> rights are sacrosanct, have muted their enthusiasm for regulation. The party's
> last presidential candidate, John Kerry, made sure he was pictured shooting
> ducks at the height of the campaign in Ohio, a swing state.
Did you know that much of John Kerry's grandstanding was preformed with a shotgun which would have been banned as an "assault weapon" by a poorly written and overly vague law that he endorsed?
viz: http://www.drudgereport.com/dncg.htm
Also, while looking for that bit of info, I found that apparently it would have been illegal for him to take his lovely gift back home:
http://www.gunlaws.com/Kerrys%20Illegal%20Shotgun.htm
> "The gun control debate on the national stage is non-existent for the time
> being," said Jens Ludwig, an expert on the issue at Georgetown University.
> "There are growing rumblings in Democratic circles that gun control is hurting
> them in the southern and western states they are trying to win."
Damned right. As I understand it, at present 38 states now have "shall issue" concealed handgun permit laws, meaning that if you're not a felon you get to carry concealed. Only a couple of backwaters like NY, CA, NJ and MD have crappy assault weapon laws similar to the federal ones that expired in 2004. (With a notable lack of increased bloodshed)
> Instead, the cause has been left largely to pressure groups which have been
> repeatedly bulldozed by the powerful National Rifle Association (NRA). A
> nationwide ban on assault weapons such as semi-automatic rifles expired in
> 2004, and other restrictions have been rolled back state by state.
>
> Mr Martin had every right to his .410 (11mm) bore shotgun. Ohio does not
> require anyone buying any firearm to have a permit. Nor does the state require
> gunowners to have a licence, although some inner city municipalities have
> stricter rules. Most state legislatures considering gun legislation are
> seeking to relax the remaining controls. Last year, Florida introduced a law
> giving its citizens the right to "stand their ground" and open fire, even in a
> public place, if they feel threatened, and the gun lobby is trying to pass a
> bill in the state that would allow workers to bring guns into their workplace
> with or without their employer's consent.
I agree with the stand your ground laws. It's damned stupid to turn your back on someone intent on doing you harm.
> Under pressure from the NRA, the Republican-run House of Representatives is
> investigating the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
> for "abuse" of its power for cracking down on rural "gun shows" where controls
> on sales are generally looser.
"Gunshow loophole" explained: Licensed dealers must do background checks when selling weapons. Joe Citizen is allowed to sell a gun to his friend without any such checks. (These are called face-to-face transfers, and are legal only within a state, not across states. Some states don't allow them, I think) So Joe goes to the gun show and wanders around offering to sell his gun. Dealer sales at shows are checked the same way as in a store.
> Larry Mugrage will be mourned in Union Township as another victim of
> inexplicable rage, but the means used to kill him are unlikely to raise many
> eyebrows. Controls on shotgun ownership have never really been on the table in
> the debate, and that has been over for more than a year on the national stage.
> Mr Martin would have been within his constitutional rights to guard his lawn
> with an AK-47.
Oooooh, the scary AK-47. Personally I'd rather get shot with one round out of an AK than one out of a shotgun. Regardless, the kid is dead.
> Guns in America32.6% of adults keep guns in or around their home , according
> to a 2002 survey. An estimated 40% own a gun
>
> 30,136 people were killed by firearms in the US in 2003; 730 of these were
> accidental
LIES!!!! LIES!!!! Look at the CDC page!
Do you have the email address of the idiot that wrote this? I want to cc him. I see that it's British, no wonder he hasn't got a clue what he's on about.