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10/25/2010 9:37:20 AM EDT
Hey Guys,

I need a workout routine for a four day lifting week. I work Monday through Thursday and we have a pretty good gym here. I am trying to best figure out time management while getting the best results.

Here is what I got so far:

Day 1:
Flat bench
crunches
leg lifts
Curls
tricep extensions

Day 2:
Squat
Power cleans
?

Day3:
Incline bench
?

Day 4:
?

Can I flat bench on Day 4? I'm new to lifting (though I've been lifting the last couple weeks just doing random lifts). What do you guys think? How long should I break before doing the same lift again?
10/25/2010 1:23:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't flat bench on day 4.  Do deadlifts.  

Also, look into a program called 5/3/1 by Jim Wendler.  It will help you lay out a 4 day lifting program, focusing on squats, deadlifts, military presses, and bench presses, with assistance exercises to go along with it.  The workouts normally take me 45 minutes to complete, and on the deload weeks less than 30.
10/28/2010 9:17:58 PM EDT
[#2]
my routine is out of vogue according to most, but it works for me. I like to keep exercises complimentary. I do a 4 day split, and i try to keep the lifting intense. For example since you need your biceps to work your back, you are not doing yourself any favors by blasting your biceps, then trying a back workout with your biceps not fully recovered. Just my 2 cents, there are a million philosophies on the matter.

anyway, i would go something like this :

Day 1:
Flat bench
Incline and/or decline
crunches
leg lifts
Curls
tricep extensions


Day 2:
Power cleans
bent-over rows
bench rows (or seated, whatever gets you off)
lat pulldowns, or pull ups if you are man enough (and im not)
curls
forearms



Day3:

Standing overhead press (barbell)
seated overhead pressed (dumbbell)
shrugs
delt raises (or crossover if you have access to one)
back extension
crunches again



Day 4:
Squat
dead lift
calf extension
leg extension
leg curls



I moved your squat to the end because if you are like most people you will be able to squat ALOT more than you can clean, as your power clean weight will be limited not by how much your legs can move, but your upper body control. Those upper body movements will complement your back/bicep workout, and you save your heaviest weights and most brutal movements for the end of the week. I dont know about you, but the day after a good squat/ deadlift workout i am wrecked and need some recovery time. Those movements will tear up your largest muscle groups (by far) and hence tax your body in recovery mode more than any other part of lifting.
11/1/2010 5:01:57 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
my routine is out of vogue according to most, but it works for me. I like to keep exercises complimentary. I do a 4 day split, and i try to keep the lifting intense. For example since you need your biceps to work your back, you are not doing yourself any favors by blasting your biceps, then trying a back workout with your biceps not fully recovered. Just my 2 cents, there are a million philosophies on the matter.

anyway, i would go something like this :

Day 1:
Flat bench
Incline and/or decline
crunches
leg lifts
Curls
tricep extensions


Day 2:
Power cleans
bent-over rows
bench rows (or seated, whatever gets you off)
lat pulldowns, or pull ups if you are man enough (and im not)
curls
forearms



Day3:

Standing overhead press (barbell)
seated overhead pressed (dumbbell)
shrugs
delt raises (or crossover if you have access to one)
back extension
crunches again



Day 4:
Squat
dead lift
calf extension
leg extension
leg curls



I moved your squat to the end because if you are like most people you will be able to squat ALOT more than you can clean, as your power clean weight will be limited not by how much your legs can move, but your upper body control. Those upper body movements will complement your back/bicep workout, and you save your heaviest weights and most brutal movements for the end of the week. I dont know about you, but the day after a good squat/ deadlift workout i am wrecked and need some recovery time. Those movements will tear up your largest muscle groups (by far) and hence tax your body in recovery mode more than any other part of lifting.



Thanks for the info!
11/1/2010 5:30:18 AM EDT
[#4]
I wouldn't do heavy back squat and deadlifts on the same day. It's a recipe for burnout unless you're lifting light.

I did a routine like this for a while that I really liked, I did it 6 days but could be modified for 4:

Day 1: Back squat
circuit course/crossfit workout shortened a little

Day 2: deadlift
circuit course/crossfit workout shortened a little

(insert a rest day here IMO)

Day 3:
Front squat
circuit course/crossfit workout shortened a little

Day 4: shoulder press
circuit course/crossfit workout shortened a little


If you were to do something like this you would want to be sure that the cuircuit course or crossfit type workout hit the muscle groups that "the big 4 lifts" aren't getting to. This might not be for everyone, as it's pretty intense but if I was going to do a 4 day program it would be this.
11/1/2010 5:51:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Here is what I was doing before I fell off the wagon. I'm currently trying to decide if I want to go back to this or go back to 3 days a week. I varied my lifting days according to how I felt. Sometimes I would lift M,T, Th, F. Sometimes M, W, Th, S.  Of some other variation.

MONSets/RepsRest
BB Bench Press5 x 5 @ 8RM60 sec
Pull Ups5 x 5 @ 8RM60 sec
Deadlift 5 x 5 @ 8RM60 sec
Standing Calf Raises5 x 5 @ 8RM60 sec

TUE Cardio

WEDSets/RepsRest
Front Squat4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
BB Rows4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
Standing Military DB Press4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
Hammer Curl4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec

THU Cardio

FRISets/RepsRest
Romanian Deadlift4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
Dips4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
Power Clean4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec
Sit-ups4 x 8 @ 10RM75 sec

SATSets/RepsRest
Back Squat3 x 12 @ 14RM120 sec
Inc DB Press3 x 12 @ 14RM120 sec
Chin Ups3 x 12 @ 14RM120 sec
Lateral Raise3 x 12 @ 14RM120 sec
11/1/2010 12:41:59 PM EDT
[#6]
After 50 years of working out, I’ve noticed a few things.

1.   Most people who bother to go to the gym overtrain.
2.   Most overtraining involves isolation exercises.  
3.   Most overtraining involves “split” routines.
4.   Most injuries occur because of ego.  
5.   The younger the gymrat, the more likely 1-4 are to be true.

My routine (I’m going to turn 65 in a few months):

One set of pushups  –  65 in 90 seconds, 90 in 2 ½ minutes.  I’ll get to 100 someday.  
Three sets on the Nautilus pullup machine, 15 unassisted, 18 with -50 lbs, 15 with -65 lbs.
Three sets of deadlifts, working up from 135 lbs to 315 lbs, 15 reps per set.  I weigh 143 lbs.
One set on the Nautilus Lower Back machine – 140 lbs for 40 reps.
One set on the Nautilus Ab machine – 140 lbs for 50 reps.
30 minutes on the treadmill, burning 250+ calories.  

That’s it.  An hour and 15 minutes, three times a week.