Breast feeding someone else's kid without their permission seems sort of bizarre. What if the woman had HIV, TB or something like that? I can't picture having her charged by the police though.

There's a difference between a wet nurse and finding out that some broad breast fed your kid without your prior permission, at least to me. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a family member, or a close friend, breast feeding my kid, but someone I didn't know and without my prior knoweldge-nah that's a different deal. Maybe in a tribe in Africa where you knew everyone, but in a large industrialized society I think it's still more than a little off center.

Another danger of this is cross infection. The day care worker could transmit disease from her child, who she is presumably breast feeding, to the child she is babysitting.

Nothing personal Kar98 but this is the question I always ask after that one.

OK  - then why are people having children they can't afford to raise on their income? With condom give aways at school, planned parenthood giving out birthcontrol and abortion on demand there has to be a way to control your reproduction?

(forget about not having sex)

Too many people don't want to give up the satellite television, two cell phones, the boat, the second new car, the big screen projection television, the vacation to the beach, the smoking, the drinking, the gambling, to bother to take care of their children.

If you want to see poor travel the world and you'll see what poor is like. You'll also see that poor mom staying at home taking care of the brood too. They'd rather go a bit hungry than to neglect the mission of raising their children.

I've been around the world and have seen the filth of two dozen countries (join the Navy, see the arm pits of the world!). The people are living in hand made homes, eating hand-to-mouth and wearing rags, they're kids have no shoes and little future - but those people are happy. They laugh, sing, play and socialize unlike American society.

It use to be that mom staid home and took care fo the kids. Taught them what life was, how to be human, and taught them maners. Yeah, we only had one phone line, black and white television, didn't have air conditioning until I was about 12, our first color TV set about that same time. Dad drove an old car and mom drove an older car.

You know, I don't remember being poor. We wen't hand to mouth poor but we weren't well off.

I do remember my father working long hours but finding time and the money to send me to summer camp with the scouts, games with the little leauge, he was my scoutmaster a couple of years and even my VFW's team's coach. Dad taught me how to throw a baseball and poor old mom did her best to act as catcher while I learned to throw a mean fast ball and a curve ball that did.

[sort of an early father's day tribute]

Too many let their kids get raised by the state or the street. The lessons learned there I dare say aren't the ones that most people posting here wish junior to learn.


Your kids aren't going to remember having the latest gameboy, Nintendo game, or electric scooter. They will remember that you were never really interested in them. That stuff came first and they came only a distant second or even third behind that stinking job that pays for that all imporant stuff.

We have tens of thousands of feral children raised by the dozens - our future cold stone blood killers and ADD/HA-AAD kids.

One of the lessons I teach my sailors is to value their children first. Family first damn it - everything has to follow. Raise your children to be strong, moral, intellegent, and patriotic citizens. For God's sake don't leave the single most imporant job on earth to the paid help!

(forget about adoption)