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Posted: 10/16/2008 4:01:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 4:38:34 AM EST by Bama-Shooter]
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:02:20 AM EST
What have they done to help Law Enforcement?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:07:26 AM EST
I'm surprised there was now mention of Obama's support for the AWB in that endorsement.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:07:57 AM EST
Thats why IL LEO have to fill out stop data cards on EVERY traffic stop...I see that as supporting law enforcement...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:09:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 4:09:43 AM EST by gonzo_beyondo]

Originally Posted By LtDirector:
What have they done to help Law Enforcement?


A lot of police brass are anti-gun.

ETA: Police are also unionized.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:12:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:22:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Milwaukee Police Association endorses John McCain, calls Obama campaign's association with ACORN, 'disturbing.'

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 01:32 PM CDT

Milwaukee (WKOW) -- from McCain campaign: John Balcerzak, President of the Milwaukee Police Association, and members of the Wisconsin law enforcement community endorsed the McCain-Palin ticket in Milwaukee Tuesday, simultaneously condemning the Obama campaign's association with ACORN.


"Today, I am here not only as the president of the largest single police union in the state of Wisconsin but also as a Milwaukee County taxpayer and law enforcement officer. I stand proudly with my fellow law enforcement officers from the Milwaukee Police Supervisors' Organization in support of Senator McCain," Balcerzak said on Tuesday.

"There are significant challenges in the years ahead that will be affecting law enforcement. I have confidence that the law-abiding people of our society and the brave men and women in law enforcement that protect them will work together to overcome these challenges. But to do so, we need to have the support of our president, and that is why the MPA has endorsed Senator McCain for President of the United States of America," he continued.


"The next president should have the judgment and credibility to instill a sense of safety in our society. This is why we have deep concerns over Senator Obama's weak record on crime as a member of the Illinois State Senate." Balcerzak said.

"The $35 million that has been spent by ACORN and the $800,000 that Senator Obama's campaign donated to the very organization that is the focus of voter fraud investigation is disturbing," he continued.

http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9182181&nav=menu1362_2



Now I get it. The brass supports Obama and road cops support McCain.


same story on concealed carry in wisconsin.

Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:29:13 AM EST
I'm ashamed to say i'm from Wisconsin. I want to return less and less every year.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:31:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:
What have they done to help Law Enforcement?


A lot of police brass are anti-gun.

ETA: Police are also unionized.


this. brass would love to disarm the public.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:32:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 4:33:50 AM EST by nefariousnick]
Cops support Obama?

Will they also do his bidding when that time comes....to.....confiscate....for the children?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:44:28 AM EST
LEO & Teachers Unions are big part of the machine
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:53:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:55:33 AM EST
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Union-addicted folks with lots of O/T, who don't care about civilian gun rights will sell out to socialists faster than pizza at a fat farm.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:07:43 AM EST

Throughout their respective careers, Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden have proven themselves to be strong supporters of the law enforcement community, providing them with the tools they need to keep our neighborhoods safe


Whose ass did this quote come from?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:21:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Milwaukee Police Association endorses John McCain, calls Obama campaign's association with ACORN, 'disturbing.'

*snipped for brevity**

Now I get it. The brass supports Obama and road cops support McCain.


A lot of the union officials I used to interact with were never cops, just union / labor types. We used to call them Union Thugs. Of the dozens of cops I used to work with, I only ever met a couple that were democrats. But somehow our union, the statewide org always backed the dems.

It sucked.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:27:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 5:28:19 AM EST by RunsWithScissors]
FYI, wasn't Balcerzak the cop who was fired for bringing an escaped Jeffrey Dahmer victim back to Dahmer's house, to be tortured, raped, killed, and eaten. I guess he really wants to be sure the mentally ill have enough to eat.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:31:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 5:32:44 AM EST by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Wisconsin law enforcement officials endorse Barack Obama

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 01:34 PM CDT

Madison (WKOW) -- from Obama campaign: Leading law enforcement officials, including District Attorneys, sheriffs and police chiefs from across the State of Wisconsin, announced Wednesday their support of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidacy.

The committee of law enforcement officials, representing thirty of Wisconsin's counties from Douglas to Kenosha, will advocate in their personal capacities for Senator Obama's plan to create safer and more secure neighborhoods across the nation.

"Throughout their respective careers, Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden have proven themselves to be strong supporters of the law enforcement community, providing them with the tools they need to keep our neighborhoods safe," said Jackson County Sheriff Duane Waldera, a member of Wisconsin Law Enforcement for Obama. "From Senator Biden's historic effort in the Senate to put 100,000 new police officers on the streets, to Senator Obama's lifelong commitment to creating safer and more prosperous neighborhoods for our families, it is clear that Senators Obama and Biden will provide law enforcement officials every resource and tool they need to effectively make our neighborhoods safer and more secure."

http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9182203&nav=menu1362_2



WI LEOs almost allways split:

Brass Left...

Line Right...

Just like on the attempts at CCW...

Brass: NO

Line: YES PLEASE!

FOP and MPA vs the Chief's Association
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:39:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By RunsWithScissors:
FYI, wasn't Balcerzak the cop who was fired for bringing an escaped Jeffrey Dahmer victim back to Dahmer's house, to be tortured, raped, killed, and eaten. I guess he really wants to be sure the mentally ill have enough to eat.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak


Did you even read the link you provided?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:43:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Wisconsin law enforcement officials endorse Barack Obama

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 01:34 PM CDT

Madison (WKOW) -- from Obama campaign: Leading law enforcement officials, including District Attorneys, sheriffs and police chiefs from across the State of Wisconsin, announced Wednesday their support of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidacy.

The committee of law enforcement officials, representing thirty of Wisconsin's counties from Douglas to Kenosha, will advocate in their personal capacities for Senator Obama's plan to create safer and more secure neighborhoods across the nation.

"Throughout their respective careers, Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden have proven themselves to be strong supporters of the law enforcement community, providing them with the tools they need to keep our neighborhoods safe," said Jackson County Sheriff Duane Waldera, a member of Wisconsin Law Enforcement for Obama. "From Senator Biden's historic effort in the Senate to put 100,000 new police officers on the streets, to Senator Obama's lifelong commitment to creating safer and more prosperous neighborhoods for our families, it is clear that Senators Obama and Biden will provide law enforcement officials every resource and tool they need to effectively make our neighborhoods safer and more secure."

http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9182203&nav=menu1362_2



WI LEOs almost allways split:

Brass Left...

Line Right...

Just like on the attempts at CCW...

Brass: NO

Line: YES PLEASE!

FOP and MPA vs the Chief's Association


From what my cop buddies tell me, it's this way almost everywhere. Brass wants more control over people, the patrol-guys want people to CCW, etc.

Absolute fucking shame disgrace they aren't heard
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:45:05 AM EST

Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:50:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By TearsInRain:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Wisconsin law enforcement officials endorse Barack Obama

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 01:34 PM CDT

Madison (WKOW) -- from Obama campaign: Leading law enforcement officials, including District Attorneys, sheriffs and police chiefs from across the State of Wisconsin, announced Wednesday their support of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidacy.

The committee of law enforcement officials, representing thirty of Wisconsin's counties from Douglas to Kenosha, will advocate in their personal capacities for Senator Obama's plan to create safer and more secure neighborhoods across the nation.

"Throughout their respective careers, Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden have proven themselves to be strong supporters of the law enforcement community, providing them with the tools they need to keep our neighborhoods safe," said Jackson County Sheriff Duane Waldera, a member of Wisconsin Law Enforcement for Obama. "From Senator Biden's historic effort in the Senate to put 100,000 new police officers on the streets, to Senator Obama's lifelong commitment to creating safer and more prosperous neighborhoods for our families, it is clear that Senators Obama and Biden will provide law enforcement officials every resource and tool they need to effectively make our neighborhoods safer and more secure."

http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9182203&nav=menu1362_2



WI LEOs almost allways split:

Brass Left...

Line Right...

Just like on the attempts at CCW...

Brass: NO

Line: YES PLEASE!

FOP and MPA vs the Chief's Association


From what my cop buddies tell me, it's this way almost everywhere. Brass wants more control over people, the patrol-guys want people to CCW, etc.

Absolute fucking shame disgrace they aren't heard


Yep...

The general attitude towards CCW by the MPD patrol officers was 'We can't be everywhere...'

Well, that and the perspective that if crime goes down, it reflects well on the PD, dead perps don't require booking/jail space, and 'no one wants to see more innocent victims'...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:11:57 AM EST
It is based in the ghettoness of the dark heart of Milwaukee...........There are more people in that that state who will look in the mirror on election day and decide to vote for someone just like me
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:48:16 AM EST
Never thought I'd say this but it's about time to de-fund the police.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:55:46 AM EST
Ugh
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:02:01 PM EST
Typical. Although I would say beat cops go 60/40 in favor of gun rights and individual responsibility.

The brass and 40% of the beat cops are elitists who look down on the citizen and think it's THEIR job to protect you, from everyone and from yourself.

I find it funny but very understandable that Milwaukee, which has the worst neighborhoods, and the worst crime in the entire state, is where the police union is pro carry and pro McCain. In other words, the one area of the state where the consequences of liberalism have come to fruition.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:05:47 PM EST
Sometimes I hate my state.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:36:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 12:37:22 PM EST by _DR]

Originally Posted By TheKill:
In other words, the one area of the state where the consequences of liberalism have come to fruition.


UNless concervatives WASPS start having MUCH larger families to keep up, the entire nation will be doomed to the same fate.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:44:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tazaroo:
Sometimes I hate my state.


Madison is the Berkley of the Midwest. A liberal blackhole.
3.5 years and the kid's done with school and were gone................West
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