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Posted: 8/30/2015 4:41:25 PM EST
Laughing at Microsoft MSFT +0.13%’s controversial data mining and privacy invasions within Windows 10? Well Windows 7 and Windows 8 users should laugh no longer as this most hated spying is now headed your way…

Software specialist site gHacks has discovered that Microsoft has pushed four new updates to both Windows 7 and Windows 8 which introduce new data collecting and user behaviour tracking features.
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Link Posted: 8/30/2015 4:42:33 PM EST
Nice, guess I wont be updating. Just pushes the rest of my machines to linux faster.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 4:45:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 4:45:45 PM EST by RedDane]


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 4:52:27 PM EST
Linux.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:02:28 PM EST
Already had the latest version of Ubuntu burned on a DVD. This will just push me to install it faster, as in tomorrow. I'm looking forward to using it again.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:03:24 PM EST
If there ever was a reason to prompt the adoption of a flavor of Linux, this would probably be the tipping point.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:04:35 PM EST
I'm guessing Linux will start to climb in market share after this announcement.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:07:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
I'm guessing Linux will start to climb in market share after this announcement.
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Eh, I doubt it
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:09:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
I'm guessing Linux will start to climb in market share after this announcement.
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98% of Windows users won't know or give a shit.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:09:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wingnut116ACW:
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Tell me moar! I am so fucking sick of MicrosoftGoogleAppleAndroid!
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:09:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:10:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Laughing at Microsoft MSFT +0.13%’s controversial data mining and privacy invasions within Windows 10? Well Windows 7 and Windows 8 users should laugh no longer as this most hated spying is now headed your way…

Software specialist site gHacks has discovered that Microsoft has pushed four new updates to both Windows 7 and Windows 8 which introduce new data collecting and user behaviour tracking features.
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Hahaha!!! Tough titties, I run Vista at home!!! Betcha didn't see THAT comin' didya???



Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:12:00 PM EST
I'm sure there is a way...

Does anyone know what you need to do to run a Windows VM in Linux?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:13:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By netstorm:
Nice, guess I wont be updating. Just pushes the rest of my machines to linux faster.
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1st post wins again.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:16:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thuban:
I'm sure there is a way...

Does anyone know what you need to do to run a Windows VM in Linux?
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https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

Edit to make hotlink.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:16:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thuban:
I'm sure there is a way...

Does anyone know what you need to do to run a Windows VM in Linux?
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https://www.virtualbox.org/
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:22:03 PM EST
I chuckle because every time we have one of these threads everyone shouts Linux, but then other times it seems like the normal Arfcom member can't even use a web browser without help.


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:32:29 PM EST
Anyone considering Linux should look at Elementary OS.

For the average user wanting to surf the web, watch movies, look at pictures, listen to music etc. Linux is a great alternative.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:33:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Synyster06Gates:


98% of Windows users won't know or give a shit.
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
I'm guessing Linux will start to climb in market share after this announcement.


98% of Windows users won't know or give a shit.

Probably half of them have an android phone.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:36:46 PM EST
I'm running linux mint 17.2 right now.


That said... how do you know your distribution of linux isn't similarly data mining?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:48:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
I'm running linux mint 17.2 right now.


That said... how do you know your distribution of linux isn't similarly data mining?
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Most don't, and never will. All they'll do is read whatever scare story of the day is posted here and run around shouting "oh no!" and then say they'll do a bunch of stuff that they don't know how to do, and are to lazy if they do no how. And the ones that do try will be back in a few days screaming for help because they trashed their PC.

And to the guy who posted the Apple logo? Put down the koolaid and get a clue.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:49:52 PM EST


Linux Mint 17 running Win XP in Virtual Box.

Haven't had a dedicated Windows machine in the house since about 2003-04 or so.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 5:49:56 PM EST
Those fucking pieces of shit.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:02:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By squashpup:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/squashpup/Screenshot%20-%2008302015%20-%20064331%20PM_zpsq8jjgqub.png

Linux Mint 17 running Win XP in Virtual Box.

Haven't had a dedicated Windows machine in the house since about 2003-04 or so.
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I just gave Win 7 it's own disk, the only thing I use it for is office and a flight sim, games and such.

Every once in a while.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:12:17 PM EST
Boom... blocked vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com in the router.

Now to make sure those updates don't install...
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:53:22 PM EST
I just switched over to Linux Mint, Cinnamon and running it as a duel boot. I have it loaded on a 16 GB thumb drive and if I want to run Linux I start it up and hit F-12 to select the USB boot order and it starts Linux from and on the thumb drive.
If I want to run Win XP I just turn it on and let it start normally.
You can run Linux from Windows in Virtual Box if you care too.

Linux Mint, Cinnamon version works very much just like Windows XP so there is a very shallow to no learning curve.
It's the best of both worlds and it's free, but they do accept donations.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:54:01 PM EST
LOL, GD actually believes this FUD.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:54:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
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Nah, after 25 years of only hitting 1.5% the GNU/Linuxfags really need to just give up.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:58:38 PM EST
I've always said, MS updates are not worth downloading. People always find better and free ways to deal with software issues. You do not need Microsofts bloatware.

I for one am in the process of switching to some form of Linux distro.

FBHO
FM$

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:06:19 PM EST
So Glad I'm using windows 95
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:24:25 PM EST
Well, good thing I don't auto-update.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:39:28 PM EST
I was imagining this was going to be a matter of time.

My Win 7 is set to not auto-update and I screen what is installed. It appears that I'll have to scrutinize more.


FMS.





Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:26:41 PM EST
Just uninstalled them they go back to 5/2015 So it has been going on a while.
I'm going to look into a dual boot linux and play with it.

What flavor is most used / supported?

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:29:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thoth8:
Just uninstalled them they go back to 5/2015 So it has been going on a while.
I'm going to look into a dual boot linux and play with it.

What flavor is most used / supported?


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How tech savvy are you?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:31:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thoth8:
Just uninstalled them they go back to 5/2015 So it has been going on a while.
I'm going to look into a dual boot linux and play with it.

What flavor is most used / supported?


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Ubuntu or some of the ubuntu-based ones seem to be the most user friendly.

Mint is a popular one. Your choice of cinammon, xfce, or mate for interface.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:35:00 PM EST
I thought the windows 7/8 tracking updates are the optional updates, not mandatory.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:46:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By davisac:


How tech savvy are you?
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Originally Posted By davisac:
Originally Posted By Thoth8:
Just uninstalled them they go back to 5/2015 So it has been going on a while.
I'm going to look into a dual boot linux and play with it.

What flavor is most used / supported?




How tech savvy are you?
I'm ok and I can google what i don't know. I have been using it but my experience is mostly my raspberry pi.
I played with ubuntu a few years ago. I liked it. but never planed to use it full time. Now I have changed my mind and want to get away from windows. I never planed to upgrade to win 10 and its was just a matter of time anyway.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 8:59:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thoth8:
'm ok and I can google what i don't know. I have been using it but my experience is mostly my raspberry pi.
I played with ubuntu a few years ago. I liked it. but never planed to use it full time. Now I have changed my mind and want to get away from windows. I never planed to upgrade to win 10 and its was just a matter of time anyway.

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Raspi uses a version of Debian linux. Ubuntu is developed from Debian. I would pick either of them and go from there. Alternatively Linux Mint (from Ubuntu) probably has the best out of the box look and feel.

All 3 of those will be somewhat similar under the hood, it's what is bolted on top thats the difference. download all 3 and try them out in vmware player or virtualbox.

(Disclaimer: I'm only a casual user of linux mostly use Windows. take what I say with a grain of salt).


Oh and whatever you do, don't get the default Ubuntu Enlightenment UI. Use one of the "spins."
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:12:27 PM EST
Fuck it. I only run windows for certain applications that are not supported through other means. I will be blocking their outbound access in the morning.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:18:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Boom... blocked vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com in the router.

Now to make sure those updates don't install...
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Can you offer a quick tutorial on blocking with your router settings?

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:01:32 PM EST
I only use a windows before the NSA. It's the ONLY way to be safe.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:20:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Boom... blocked vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com in the router.
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This...
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:24:32 PM EST
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I thought the windows 7/8 tracking updates are the optional updates, not mandatory.
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Until MS sneakily inserts them into some other stuff or a service pack.

This sucks and stinks.


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:26:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 10:26:54 PM EST by Molotov357]
Those are optional updates which won't install unless you are set to install all updates from microsoft.

Still fuck them.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:49:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Boom... blocked vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com in the router.


This...


Just done here.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:52:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bigshooter81:


Can you offer a quick tutorial on blocking with your router settings?

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Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Boom... blocked vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com in the router.

Now to make sure those updates don't install...


Can you offer a quick tutorial on blocking with your router settings?



Do you have DD-WRT on your router?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:52:42 PM EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg-5WgcMV_o
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:05:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:27:02 PM EST
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Jones needs to lay off the tren and amphetamines for a while.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:35:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
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And 2005 will be the year of the Linux Desktop!
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:37:05 PM EST
ugh.

need to make the move pronto.
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