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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:20:03 AM EDT
...and will the NRA cave this time?
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:24:42 AM EDT
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This NO situation will be used on the Senate/House and State assembly floors by the Boxer, Feinstein, Durbin and Kennedy types everywhere. It very well could work in some states and maybe on the federal level if the Democrats can get power back one day. Hell the Dems don't even need to get the majority back, there are plenty of Republicans like McCain and Rudy Guilliani that are anti-gun as well.
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:27:49 AM EDT
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"Will the situation in NOLA prompt action on a new federal AWB?"
count on it, it's going to happen.............. it will be political suicide if any politician votes against it, if it's brought up, considering what is happening in NO. my best guess it will make the 94 ban look like a pro-gun legislation.....and I will further state that it will be sponsored by landrieu, the senator from that state, with the usually co-sponsors, any one want to take that bet? |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:29:59 AM EDT
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DU is already talking about it
(leave link cold)!!!! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4548446 |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:35:51 AM EDT
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Oh count on it. We're about to get a GIGANTIC fucking on our gun rights.
And this time, I fear it wont be just mag capacity and bayo lugs, and I fear it wont come with an expiration date. Unfortunate as it may be, if there was a time to strike to uphold our gun rights, this is the time. 
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:36:48 AM EDT
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I don't think so, times are different and I think a lof of people now understand the need to have armed citizens. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:36:59 AM EDT
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It SHOULD prompt a National Re-armament Bill.
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:38:27 AM EDT
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I hope to shit your right man. I really, really do. But, I'm a pessimist. I dont think this bodes well for us at all. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:40:36 AM EDT
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The extreme left exploits every tragedy. Why not this one? C'mon Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton et al let's hear it! Evil bastards.
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:40:46 AM EDT
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Another reason to flee LA. So they're going to punish law-abiding citizens because the thugs that the Goverment of LA couldn't control?       
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:41:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:42:18 AM EDT
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don't get upset, but you are living in a dream world, if you think that..........a lot of the people are not going to think that way. if anything NO it's going to be a poster child for more stringent gun laws......especially for 'AW" it took one lone nutjob shooting up a california McDonalds, to help give us the 89 ban. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:44:43 AM EDT
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Count on them trying.
Personally I dont think it will get very far. Firearms has been pushed to the back burner for the most part and dragging to the front to further a few antis agenda could do more damage then good. I think we will hear bits, but it will soon fade. CH |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:45:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:47:05 AM EDT
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fleeing LA, isn't the answer.......not when it's going to be a federal law |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:47:38 AM EDT
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I'm going to have to agree with you. If anything would have renewed or reinstated an AWB it would have been the DC "sniper" shootings. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:48:15 AM EDT
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I had an interesting conversation with a very liberal Jewish mother of four last evening. She used to be staunchly anti-gun.
She's reconsidered her position and is even thinking about buying one and going to class. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:51:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:54:14 AM EDT
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I hope not, but if it does, I will PERSONALLY take out ads in local papers to strike back at the anti's idiotic prattle.
I really hope that Joe and Suzy America see that good people need guns to give themselves a fighting chance against situations like this. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:55:10 AM EDT
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don't be too sure..........it's most definetly on their radar screen, if you don't think it is, then you haven't been paying attention to the news reports, about shootings of AK, and at police officers, helicpoters......they are justing waiting for the right moment, timing is everything, they are going to wait until the recover is well underway, right now it will get lost in all the noise as it's still a resue mission |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:56:00 AM EDT
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This fiasco in NO is only going to re-inforce our position. Look what happens when bad people start acting bad. You call people that have guns right? Now we know what happens then the good people can't show up to protect you. You must protect yourself. Gun shops are going to make a shitload over the next 3 months.
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:56:09 AM EDT
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had the same conversation here, well, almost - it was this morning, not a mother of four, a moderate conservative and not jewish - other than that, it was exactly the same. 
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:57:16 AM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:57:24 AM EDT
[#23]
Seems like it's mostly that bonehead Benchley yammering for more gun control. On the plus side, it looks like a few over there are starting to see the light that the RKBA is not to be fucked with. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:57:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:06:44 AM EDT
[#25]
Yeah, bunch of pro gun posts in that thread. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:20:16 AM EDT
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when the dems get a president in '08, they won't push for a new federal AWB. they will push for a federal WB, and cite the easy availability of guns as one of the main reasons things got so bad in NO in 2005. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:22:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:32:55 AM EDT
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Yes they will use it to usher ina new AWB. and no they will not cave in if they have enough members to reflect the gun owners. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:46:26 AM EDT
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+87 |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:56:44 AM EDT
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ARFCOM trolls. We are everywhere 
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:05:46 AM EDT
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The conversion from a liberal to a conservative is often only one mugging away. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:10:29 AM EDT
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I suggest a new HR1703 (and like)push and anything anti-UN. Can we organize another mass call-in and Email effort? Push repeals?
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:25:32 AM EDT
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we certainly are 
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:27:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:36:14 AM EDT
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I just read a bunch of the posts in that thread, can anybody tell me what a "freeper" is??
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:36:23 AM EDT
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this is the perfect example of the government NOT being able to protect you. it also validates that there really are violent people out there who will not act in any reasonable way and can only be stopped with a firearm.
if any politicain tries to argue that not enough gun control was the problem in NO, they are not going to be able to make much of a case. however, i do feel walmart, the pawnshop, and other dealers would have done well to better secure their inventory. id be very curious to see how this would have effected the current situation. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:34:15 PM EDT
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www.freerepublic.com |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:42:00 PM EDT
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In some ways I hope this doesn't prompt liberals to arm themselves. They are still the same irrational people they always were; prone to emotions over logic.
In many of my NO discussions with liberals, I have voiced my disgust for those who were shooting at police and NG who were there to help them. Many of the liberals replied, "Well, you would probably do the same thing" or "If you knew how they lived, you would understand why they did that" |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:44:43 PM EDT
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I can't see how this can, in any way, help the lib gun banners. What it showed was that there is no way in hell that any part of the govt, be it local state or fed, that can help you when the shit hits the fan and the vultures and trolls come out. I'd bet there is not an assault weapon look alike priced fairly within 200 miles of NO. I'm going to check at the local shot here in Mi to see if sales went up in the past week also. I would bet they did, and every new gun owner is a nail in the coffin of the banners. Now we just need a big hammer to drive them in.
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:45:28 PM EDT
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If the last few days in NOLA (and elsewhere, too easy to forget it happened to other locations beside NOLA) have shown us anything, it's that the RKBA is absolutely, utterly necessary.
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:47:51 PM EDT
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Yep. Repeal GCA and NFA. 'Vermont carry' nationwide. CMP to offer M-14s. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 2:56:02 PM EDT
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CAPITAL idea. On another note, I don't think any anti-gun legislation is going anywhere. The wilding thugs who gang-raped and murdered 5,7, and 9 year-old girls made it damned clear to people that there are evil doers in the world. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 2:58:00 PM EDT
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Agreed. Remain vigilant, but don't panic. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:09:59 PM EDT
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yeah I'm not sure this will spawn more gun control or less. I know two different people at my office who have never had guns have approached me about helping them buy one in the last week.
one of them had been telling me his wife would never allow one and when he called her and told her he was shopping for one she said "not in my house brian" and he says "well we don't always get what we want do we?" CLASSIC. anyway, I think a lot of people have had the scales fall from their eyes about how easy it is to have anarchy in the streets and you want to be able to protect yourself in that situation. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:14:49 PM EDT
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+1 Sure, the rabid leftists will use this event to push an agenda. Nothing new there. The rest of America now has seen that .gov cannot and most likely will not protect families in need. Katrina will only help bolster the cause of firearms rights. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:36:26 PM EDT
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+1 to both of these comments. I work with a ubber liberal, (he thinks the military is a welfare organization ) and yesterday I mentioned to him "now you know why we have a second amendment" He actually agreed. For further proof, see SteyrAugs thread on some of the poeple who are coming to him to buy guns. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:45:54 PM EDT
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Ban hurricanes not guns!
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:49:28 PM EDT
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Hey all, I'm a moderate that goes both ways on diff issues. Yes to economic conservativeness (which is not GWB's style, haha), firearms, and yes to helping the poor better themselves, freedom of choice, etc. However, the case of NO has definitely been made into a case FOR guns. In this unique case, most of the people were able to escape because of the warning, but what if the scenario was a unpredicatble earthquake in LA? Or Seattle? When you have savages running around, they will find weapons of any kind, and decent citizens need to be able to protect themselves. The strongest image I have of the LA riots is the Korean store owners protecting their property with some decent hardware...
My friend, "trust fund bob" has a brother at Tulane University, who heard through the grapevine the insanity of post hurricane new orleans. The horror stories and rumors led "trust fund bob" to immediately look into getting WA residency (from CA, haha) so he could get a AR and semi-auto shotgun for "just in case". This weekend I picked up a lower receiver and started assembling my own rifle. Funny thing about "trust fund bob" one of his tenants/housemates is a hardcore hippie and was completely against guns. After this weekend, she was OK with him starting an arsenal. :) I may vote democratic for social issues but I'm a big fan of GWB letting the ban slide, thanks mang! |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:54:23 PM EDT
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Nothing worse than a loost job. |
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Posted: 9/6/2005 3:55:44 PM EDT
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Even the NEW YORK TIMES printed a PRO-GUN article, regarding citizens arming themselves against armed looters!
The value of being armed against CRIMINALS is more evident to Joe American and his wife Jane than it has been for many, many years. No new gun laws will be passed. You're nuts to think they would. CJ |
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