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How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. |
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I have ridden a dirtbike with a thumb throttle before, and it sucked ass. The inability to fully grip the right bar makes riding more difficult, IMO.
Also, steering a twist throttle four-wheeler kinda sucks, because of the range of motion of the handlebars. It makes throttle control more difficult. |
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How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? Like a savage while laughing at the guy on his all terrain Lark. |
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saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. |
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I have ridden a dirtbike with a thumb throttle before, and it sucked ass. The inability to fully grip the right bar makes riding more difficult, IMO. Also, steering a twist throttle four-wheeler kinda sucks, because of the range of motion of the handlebars. It makes throttle control more difficult. View Quote Listen to this man, he knows of what he speaks. |
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I was told it was because when you hit a bump or something going down hill you are less likely to push a thumb throttle forward than with a twist throttle.
A thumb throttle gives you a lot more control in that regard as your thumb/hand is in the same place all the time where with a twist throttle it depends on the position of your hand on the throttle......Or something like that. |
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How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? Same way with a hooker. Trunk of a car. |
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Whiskey throttle. Guess people on four wheels can't handle their alcohol
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saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. Who makes a snowplow attachment for a dirt bike, or a trailer to carry hand tools and mulch? I've only owned motorcycles, and street bikes for that matter. Even I can see the utility in an atv, and will probably need to get one for driveway plowing & yard maintenance when we build our next house. A compact tractor or larger UTV won't fit the budget. For fun, let's discuss trigger vs thumb throttles on personal watercraft. |
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I have ridden a dirtbike with a thumb throttle before, and it sucked ass. The inability to fully grip the right bar makes riding more difficult, IMO. Also, steering a twist throttle four-wheeler kinda sucks, because of the range of motion of the handlebars. It makes throttle control more difficult. View Quote I've never tried a thumb throttle bike, it seems like it would be weird though. The twist throttle quad though, I share the same experience, you have to throw the handlebars around a lot more than on a bike, a hard right turn is hard to manipulate. |
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Handlebar range of motion compared to body movement.
On a dirtbike, you're all over the machine during riding. On a fourwheeler/snowmobile you're pretty stationary. |
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Because when you lean to the inside of a turn on a 4 wheeler or sled, the vehicle stays flat. On a motorcycle, the bike leans with you and you can keep your grip on the throttle.
The handle bar range is no different than on a bike, your relationship to the handlebars is different. |
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As a young lad the thumb throttle crapped out on my vintage big red.
My Father (macgyver wannabee never throw a fucking thing away) put a dirbike twist throttle on it. I loved that thing, nobody else would ride it. My father jumped on it once later on...shortly thereafter it had a thumb throttle again. |
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On a bike you counter steer to get the bike leaned over once leaned over you are turning.
An atv doesn't lean over with counter steering, hence doesnt turn. Previous poster touched upon it. Atv you are constant moving the bars in wide range of motion, not so much with a bike (unless super low speeds). Source, I race AMA Enduro and have years fixing/riding atv and bikes. |
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I started riding 3 wheelers in 1982 (Kawasaki KLT200 - still have it and it runs good).
We all rode 3 wheelers. One of the guys converted his Yamaha 225DX (I think that was the model) to a twist/wrist throttle and it just whipped his ass. Every little wrist movement brought on my a bump, or acceleration, results in more acceleration. The early ATVs didn't have very good suspension either. Lot's of bouncing. |
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It's a matter of control and the difference between the two riding styles. With a snowmobile or ATV you use the thumb control throttle because it is much easier to stay in control.Same with the bike..you use the twist throttle for better control. Especially when standing. I have had all three
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I hate the thumb throttles. I've always been a bike guy so on the one quad I ever owned (08 yfz450) I installed a twist throttle kit and it was WAY better. I never had any problems at the dunes with it and I liked it a lot more.
Dirt scooter master race. |
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When a bike wheelies out of control you jump off. An ATV, you tend to grip the handlebars more. A twist on an already raising ATV would be bad juju; Instinct pulls the thumb off the throttle to hold on to the machine.
That is of course until you learn the tap the back brake trick. |
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I had a lot of sport/racing quads growing up, I always installed twist throttles on them.
Goggle quad racing or whatnot and look at the pics of the racing quads, many have twists. |
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I had a lot of sport/racing quads growing up, I always installed twist throttles on them. View Quote Yeah, but chances are you knew what you were doing. Most inexperienced riders would hang on to the handlebars, unintentionally accelerate and crash into a parked car. |
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How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? However it was done before those fatass redneck abominations were invented. |
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saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. I see that you don't waterfowl hunt. |
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Who makes a snowplow attachment for a dirt bike, or a trailer to carry hand tools and mulch? I've only owned motorcycles, and street bikes for that matter. Even I can see the utility in an atv, and will probably need to get one for driveway plowing & yard maintenance when we build our next house. A compact tractor or larger UTV won't fit the budget. For fun, let's discuss trigger vs thumb throttles on personal watercraft. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? saddlebags and a drag rope. or drag sled. If you need more stuff than a bike can handle, you are probably quite spoiled. Who makes a snowplow attachment for a dirt bike, or a trailer to carry hand tools and mulch? I've only owned motorcycles, and street bikes for that matter. Even I can see the utility in an atv, and will probably need to get one for driveway plowing & yard maintenance when we build our next house. A compact tractor or larger UTV won't fit the budget. For fun, let's discuss trigger vs thumb throttles on personal watercraft. I'm not debatin the utility of a small 4 wheeled 4wd vehicle. That wasn't the question. His question of "how do I haul all my hunting gear...". Makes it seems as if 2 wheel vehicle wouldn't be possible. It is. There are several makers of wheeled trailers for dirt bikes, and a drag sled can be attached to almost anything. I think the thumb throttle is used do to inexperience of riders. It much easier to let off with your thumb than to untwist your wrist, for an untrained inexperienced rider of 4 wheelers and " jet skis" |
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I've never tried a thumb throttle bike, it seems like it would be weird though. The twist throttle quad though, I share the same experience, you have to throw the handlebars around a lot more than on a bike, a hard right turn is hard to manipulate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have ridden a dirtbike with a thumb throttle before, and it sucked ass. The inability to fully grip the right bar makes riding more difficult, IMO. Also, steering a twist throttle four-wheeler kinda sucks, because of the range of motion of the handlebars. It makes throttle control more difficult. I've never tried a thumb throttle bike, it seems like it would be weird though. The twist throttle quad though, I share the same experience, you have to throw the handlebars around a lot more than on a bike, a hard right turn is hard to manipulate. Yup |
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I and some other people have put twist grip throttles on Snowmobiles. Old, ...Modified snowmobiles.... Highly Modified..., powerful..., Fast Snowmobiles with poor suspension.
When you really need to let off the throttle and grab a good hold on the bars... A twist grip throttle will KILL you. a thumb throttle will let you get control and let off the gas. If you don't believe me, buy an old sled, put on a twist grip, modern carb, open up the exhaust, and get after it. As the Sioux Indians used to say when mounting up for battle, "Today is a Good day to Die" as for ATV's, the same applies. We do the same with 3 wheel and 4 wheel ones. It seperates the smart,skilled operators from the "Hey, watch this.." crowd |
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Because you steer a dirtbike primarily with leaning, the others you use the handlebars much much more and the range of motion gets fucky. Trying to make a hard left it would naturally increase the throttle.
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Snowmobiles and ATV's are rougher than a dirt bike? BS
Motorbikes don't turn the bars much, steer by leaning over, ATV, snowmobiles are all turned by handlebars. |
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I and some other people have put twist grip throttles on Snowmobiles. Old, ...Modified snowmobiles.... Highly Modified..., powerful..., Fast Snowmobiles with poor suspension. When you really need to let off the throttle and grab a good hold on the bars... A twist grip throttle will KILL you. a thumb throttle will let you get control and let off the gas. If you don't believe me, buy an old sled, put on a twist grip, modern carb, open up the exhaust, and get after it. As the Sioux Indians used to say when mounting up for battle, "Today is a Good day to Die" as for ATV's, the same applies. We do the same with 3 wheel and 4 wheel ones. It seperates the smart,skilled operators from the "Hey, watch this.." crowd View Quote I thought the OP had a very good question and this post kind of mirrors my limited experience. Climbing a steep hill with a dirt bike and twist throttle gets very interesting when you can't let go of the throttle or you will be on your ass, and you can't adjust the throttle or you will be on your ass. I could definately see the utility of dual throttle controls on a dirt bike. Hmmmm. |
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Thumb throttles are noobie compatible apparently. Having grown up on dirt bikes it is all twist for me. When you get in the rough stuff twist gives you control that you can't have with a thumb throttle when your body is being slammed about.
I have a dual gasser on my raptor, it has a thumb and twist throttle incorporated together, so I can ride it as well as others that seem mystified by a twist throttle. |
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I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Snowmobiles too I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE The only person I've ever heard say Snow Machine is Sarah Palin. And we all know how smart she is. |
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The only person I've ever heard say Snow Machine is Sarah Palin. And we all know how smart she is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Snowmobiles too I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE The only person I've ever heard say Snow Machine is Sarah Palin. And we all know how smart she is. All the Alaska shows on cable and satellite refer to them as snow machines. I figured it was so as to not infringe on a trade name. I think Polaris tries to make the tern "snowmobile" theirs. |
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I rode 3/4 wheelers for years. I always put a twist on them. And I never rode dirt bikes. Twist just worked better for me.
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I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Snowmobiles too I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE A snow machine is what we use at the ski mountains to make snow. A snowmobile is what you ride on the snow with. |
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A snow machine is what we use at the ski mountains to make snow. A snowmobile is what you ride on the snow with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Snowmobiles too I'm a dumb southerner, but even I know how stupid we sound saying that. SNOW MACHINE A snow machine is what we use at the ski mountains to make snow. A snowmobile is what you ride on the snow with. Correct answer here. I never understood why people started calling them snow machines. |
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Every three wheeler or quad I have owned was changed to twist throttle about 5 minutes after I got it. It is a very cheap fix.
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Same way with a hooker. Trunk of a car. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? Same way with a hooker. Trunk of a car. Where are you finding hookers 5 miles into the woods with a stream crossing and primitive roads? That must be some mighty fine pussy. |
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Where are you finding hookers 5 miles into the woods with a stream crossing and primitive roads? That must be some mighty fine pussy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dirt bikes are real motorcycles and atvs are pretenders. How do I haul all my hunting gear in and my dead deer out with a dirt bike? Same way with a hooker. Trunk of a car. Where are you finding hookers 5 miles into the woods with a stream crossing and primitive roads? That must be some mighty fine pussy. It's so nasty they make her stay 5 miles from town. |
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Handlebar range of motion compared to body movement. On a dirtbike, you're all over the machine during riding. On a fourwheeler/snowmobile you're pretty stationary. View Quote not on a mountain sled, I don't even sit on my seat all day with a mountain sled because of riding style trail and back country riding is very different and our throttle blocks on sleds are the dumbest thing I have ever seen, mine all have trigger finger throttles in my experience twist throttles work just fine on quads, on sleds if you switch your going to a trigger throttle over the thumb throttle |
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