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Posted: 11/2/2004 4:45:35 PM EST
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:48:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:48:57 PM EST
Because it ain't.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:49:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??



Um, because it isn't? It doesn't fragment, so is less lethal than 5.56, and has an inferior trajectory. What's to like?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:49:26 PM EST
um, no. They both will kill you dead, tho.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:49:28 PM EST
at what
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:49:41 PM EST
Don't start this shit on election night, I'm all drunk as it is.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:50:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Nate1:

www.ammo-oracle.com/



You link to a big webpage??

5.56
7.62x39mm

The 7.62 clearly has more energy.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:51:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4Kid:
Don't start this shit on election night, I'm all drunk as it is.



I have to. I have to do SOMETHING to keep my mind off this shit. If digging up THIS issue wont get some responses and get us off the elections, nothing will.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:52:00 PM EST
well this proves you are a troll once and for all.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:52:43 PM EST
apples and oranges.

blindly following .30 caliber is a pre-vietnam era attitude...
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:52:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By bastiat:
well this proves you are a troll once and for all.



You've never once answered any questions. Whos the troll?
Oh yes, I know. The member who never contributes ANYTHING. That would be you......
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:52:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 4:54:34 PM EST by Mythe]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??



If so why did the Soviets go to the 5.45mm in 1974??
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:53:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 4:53:42 PM EST by TNDude]
Well no offense Specop_007 but do you spend all your time on here i mean shit you already over 1230 posts since august i mean damn son
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:53:37 PM EST
You have to hit what you're aiming at first! You won't do it with an AK.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:53:38 PM EST
Specop_007 go find out what board gunkid is hanging out at these days and talk to him about it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:53:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mythe:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??



If so why did the Soviets go to the 5.45mm in the 1974??



Due to the smaller size, its looks cuter. You dont want to scare your adversarys away before you have a chance to shoot them, so they adopted a smaller round in order to make their enemies feel more comfortbale.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:54:09 PM EST
OK.
THREAD HIJACK!

CRF vs. PUSH-FEED! In 7.62x39 vs. 5.56x45!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:54:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50cal:
You have to hit what you're aiming at first! You won't do it with an AK.



Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:54:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mythe:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??



If so why did the Soviets go to the 5.45mm in the 1974??



hmmmm, was it to keep up with the .223, no can't be. Kalashnikov didn't say it himself did he??...
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:54:45 PM EST
[no life] How in the fuck can you have that many posts in only a couple of months? [/no life]
Your rate of post is like one a second or in lay man terms = a hell of alot more votes than kErrys gittin
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:55:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By TNDude:
Well no offense Specop_007 but do you spend all your time on here i mean shit you already over 1230 posts since august i mean damn son



Well, what the hell else am I supposed to do at work??

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Because it ain't.



What he said.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By quijanos:
[no life] How in the fuck can you have that many posts in only a couple of months? [/no life]
Your rate of post is like one a second or in lay man terms = a hell of alot more votes than kErrys gittin



Hey, I'ma serious fuckin surfer man. I'm not one of those high-on-the-weekend hippie surfers you see on the beach man. I'm a hardcore, long haired, skin looks like leather everyday surfer damnit!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:11 PM EST
IIRC Energy equals mass times velocity squared.

You are clearly not understanding the velocity squared part.

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:23 PM EST
Where's the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" pic?

A shotgun is also the best home defense weapon. I saw it on tv.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Specop_007 go find out what board gunkid is hanging out .



Aaaah, you had to say his name. He'll show up now.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 4:57:44 PM EST by Gunslinger808]
7.62X39 may have more energy at muzzle, but it loses it quickly.
I would compare it to the 30 30 round.
Plus it lacks a platform that delivers it with the same accuracy as the 5.56.
At 400 meters I can still have high confidence in hitting my target with the 5.56, at that distance it's a gamble with the AK round.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:56:35 PM EST
Shoot yourself in both feet one with 5.56 and one with the 7.62 and get back to us with a damage report.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:57:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Nexus6:
Where's the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" pic?

A shotgun is also the best home defense weapon. I saw it on tv.



No no, its a knife man. The article on the main page says a knife is the best weapon if your within 21 feet......
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:57:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By sam1963:
Shoot yourself in both feet one with 5.56 and one with the 7.62 and get back to us with a damage report.





Bush - 170
Kerry - 112

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:57:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By bastiat:
well this proves you are a troll once and for all.



You've never once answered any questions. Whos the troll?



That's because you ask the most assinine questions possible. You're not worth giving a serious answer to.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:57:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By sam1963:
Shoot yourself in both feet one with 5.56 and one with the 7.62 and get back to us with a damage report.



But.....Do i put the 5.56 in my left foot or right foot??
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:57:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 4:59:09 PM EST by PhoenixPete]
I volunteer to be shot at with both calibers using standard m4 and ak47. At 3000 yards. Will report back findings.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:58:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By bastiat:
well this proves you are a troll once and for all.



You've never once answered any questions. Whos the troll?



That's because you ask the most assinine questions possible. You're not worth giving a serious answer to.



Your not banned yet??
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:58:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Hey, I'ma serious fuckin surfer man. I'm not one of those high-on-the-weekend hippie surfers you see on the beach man. I'm a hardcore, long haired, skin looks like leather everyday surfer damnit!!




YOU LIVE IN FUCKING KANSAS!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:58:38 PM EST
Bush - 170176
Kerry - 112
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:59:40 PM EST
CRF all the way!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 4:59:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Bush - 170176
Kerry - 112



ASSHOLE!!

And here I had *almost* forgotten about all that.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:00:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??



The AK round is underpowered for a .30 cal projectile. It has a horrible trajectory past 200 meters, doesn't fragment well, as well as a few other reasons that I think I'll let Brouhaha take care of.

More energy doesn't always equal a superior round.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:00:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:00:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Bush - 170176
Kerry - 112



BITCHIN', Bushy just tok UT.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:00:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By lokt:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Hey, I'ma serious fuckin surfer man. I'm not one of those high-on-the-weekend hippie surfers you see on the beach man. I'm a hardcore, long haired, skin looks like leather everyday surfer damnit!!




YOU LIVE IN FUCKING KANSAS!





Minor technicality.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:01:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??


Sounds like you like AK's/SKS more than AR's?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:02:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 5:02:43 PM EST by Specop_007]

Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??


Sounds like you like AK's/SKS more than AR's?



No, I actually prefer the AR's.
I just dont want a hole eaten into my stomach from the ulcer I was getting by watching the news. I knew if anything would get the Arfcommers to action on something BESIDES the election it was this topic.

In all honestly, I appreciate both for what they are.
Very effective mankillers.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:02:52 PM EST
5.56 = more thrusts per squeeze ...... BITCH !
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:03:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??


Sounds like you like AK's/SKS more than AR's?



No, I actually prefer the AR's.
I just dont want a hole eaten into my stomach from the ulcer I was getting by watching the news. I knew if anything would get the Arfcommers to action on something BESIDES the election it was this topic.

In all honestly, I appreciate both for what they are.
Very effective mankillers.



Bush 178!!!
Kerry 112

Bush just took MT.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:03:22 PM EST
I'm no physics guru, but the energy carried in such a round is about equivalent to a bag of potatos falling off a shelf and hitting you (read this somewhere)

Granted you would probably get the snot knocked out of you, but you'll live. Fragmentation is the real killer.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:03:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4Kid:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Lets be realistic here. The 7.62x39mm is a larger bullet and carries more energy. Why cant you guys clearly see its preferable to the 5.56 due to this fact??


Sounds like you like AK's/SKS more than AR's?



No, I actually prefer the AR's.
I just dont want a hole eaten into my stomach from the ulcer I was getting by watching the news. I knew if anything would get the Arfcommers to action on something BESIDES the election it was this topic.

In all honestly, I appreciate both for what they are.
Very effective mankillers.



Bush 178!!!
Kerry 112

Bush just took MT.



You guys are just downright mean.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:04:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By yellow5:
I'm no physics guru, but the energy carried in such a round is about equivalent to a bag of potatos falling off a shelf and hitting you (read this somewhere)

Granted you would probably get the snot knocked out of you, but you'll live. Fragmentation is the real killer.



Fragmentation?? Like what a paintball does?! Hell man, that wouldnt kill ANYTHING!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 5:05:04 PM EST
OH YEAH BABY!

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